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Oct 29 2007, 12:16 PM
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Megalopolis Group: Admin Posts: 10464 Joined: 7-August 03 Member No.: 5 |
This video is a pretty good summary of the frustrations that so many have with the current political process. Interesting it comes from fairly conservative Charleston, SC.
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Oct 29 2007, 02:33 PM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 2117 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Seattle, but from Charlotte Member No.: 8301 |
There are only two candidates this time around that offer true change. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. When all is said and done, there's probably not a dime's difference in the other candidates.
The media, snakes that they are, sweep the two candidates of change under the rug and pretend they don't exist. |
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Oct 31 2007, 07:46 AM
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Metropolis Group: Plus Members Posts: 7994 Joined: 13-July 05 From: Providence - Elmhurst Member No.: 5305 |
great summary of what should be obvious to a lot of people.
i really wish people like ron paul or dennis kucinich would get more media attention. unfortunately, that won't happen unless we get rid of the parties and make one big presidential election. do it like one of those shows like dancing with the stars where the people vote once a week for several weeks knocking off the lowest "contestant" (and probably having some drop out themselves) each week until we get someone with more than 50% of the popular vote. |
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Oct 31 2007, 08:56 AM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 1038 Joined: 3-November 05 From: Greater Boston Member No.: 7724 |
If we had real elections in which every candidate had the same amount of money and the same amount of air time, Kucinich would be a frontrunner, no doubt. I'm not sure about Paul, but I think he's quite a lightning rod. And I like that.
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Oct 31 2007, 06:23 PM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 2117 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Seattle, but from Charlotte Member No.: 8301 |
Several pundits were referring to Hillary Clinton as a neo-con on MSNBC political programs last night! Liberal commentators are saying her war stances are almost identical to Bush's.
It's looking pretty obvious that only a Pres. Kucinich or a Pres. Paul would end that insane war. This post has been edited by Charlotteman: Oct 31 2007, 06:25 PM |
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Oct 31 2007, 10:50 PM
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Whistle-Stop ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 106 Joined: 6-April 07 From: Uptown Charlotte via DC Member No.: 17284 |
RP was on Leno last night, and NBC seems to be treating him a lot better lately. Maybe the media blackout is ending...
I really think the tide is turning, many people in this country are FED up with this gov't, the war, and establishment politicians. RP and Kucinich represent change from that, and people are starting to listen. |
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Nov 1 2007, 12:12 AM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 1196 Joined: 8-February 07 From: The Quiet Corner CT Member No.: 16425 |
In my little town, there's several places where you can find Ron Paul banners and signs. Pamphlets at one of the two gas stations. Nice to see people taking notice.
But yeah, the mainstream media only wants you to vote between Hillary and Obama, Romney and Guiliani. Those four bring no change whatsoever. Jack Thompson too, the darling until it was found out nobody liked him and he's incredibly dull. |
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Nov 1 2007, 02:12 AM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 2117 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Seattle, but from Charlotte Member No.: 8301 |
Did ya'll notice during the last Dem debate how a question about UFOs was asked of Kucinich? The audience giggled and snickered throughout his answer. One has to admire Kucinich for keeping his cool........what a bunch of garbage to ask a presidential candidate such a meaningless question.
The media were trying to make Kucinich look like a fool. The media apparently do not want any candidates in the race but status-quo polititians. |
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Nov 1 2007, 03:51 PM
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Burg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 1484 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Newport, RI Member No.: 3896 |
Several pundits were referring to Hillary Clinton as a neo-con on MSNBC political programs last night! Liberal commentators are saying her war stances are almost identical to Bush's. Hillary is hardly a neocon, but neither is she the leftist her opponents like to label her as. For instance, her "socialist" health care proposal is nearly identical to the plan implemented by conservative darling Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts. Clinton is quite centrist, and I think a lot of "typical" Republican voters would find a lot to like about her if they'd look beyond the rhetoric coming out of their own party. Did ya'll notice during the last Dem debate how a question about UFOs was asked of Kucinich? The audience giggled and snickered throughout his answer. One has to admire Kucinich for keeping his cool........what a bunch of garbage to ask a presidential candidate such a meaningless question. The media were trying to make Kucinich look like a fool. The media apparently do not want any candidates in the race but status-quo polititians. This question stems from a recent book in which the author claims Kucinich saw a UFO while staying at her property some time ago. The question wasn't entirely out of nowhere, but it was certainly unusual to see it in the debate. I admire that Kucinich was honest in his answer, rather than giving a more politically safe response. As others have said, I have no doubt that Kucinich and Ron Paul would be the nominees if the media were impartial and gave equal time to all candidates. |
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Nov 2 2007, 05:23 AM
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Megalopolis Group: Admin Posts: 10464 Joined: 7-August 03 Member No.: 5 |
Did ya'll notice during the last Dem debate how a question about UFOs was asked of Kucinich? The audience giggled and snickered throughout his answer. One has to admire Kucinich for keeping his cool........what a bunch of garbage to ask a presidential candidate such a meaningless question. The media were trying to make Kucinich look like a fool. The media apparently do not want any candidates in the race but status-quo polititians. You hit the nail on the head on what is the problem. The US corporate controlled media. They rake in huge profits by first declaring a set of celebrity named front runners, then the endless numbers of pundits pit them in fights that have lots of ratings from an unsuspecting public. We have Hillary vs Obama, Hillary vs the Republicans, Romney vs Guiliani, McCain vs Guiliani and Romney, and so forth. All of this months before the first vote is to be cast. Let's keep in mind the same thing went on in 2004 and the media got it completely wrong in the case of the Democrats. Dean ended up going from presumed front runner to a non-issue in the election. The media in this country, and this includes the majors, NBC, CBS and ABC, and the "legitimate" cable outlets, CNN and MSNBC are basically worthless in covering the real issues, and continue to waste out time with such questions in a Presidential debate about UFOs. This is when they are not completely focused on items on celebrity culture. My recommendation is to try and watch the Sunday morning political talk shows, like Meet the Press, or at least read some of the foreign or independent media. |
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Nov 5 2007, 10:05 AM
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Whistle-Stop ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 205 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 2876 |
Not that it will receive much attention from MSM, but Ron Paul is set to raise over 2 mil in one day! The website thisnovember5th.com has been signing up supporters to donate today, the 5th of November, and as of this posting they have raised 1.3 mil since midnight! I'm not sure about the guy, but this display of netroots support is very impressive.
See the current total here: ronpaulgraphs.com QUOTE Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot, I know of no reason Why Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. |
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Nov 14 2007, 05:37 PM
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Hamlet ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members+ Posts: 451 Joined: 14-December 05 From: The Left Coast Member No.: 8405 |
Whoever has the most money for the best media campaign wins!! The lesser candidates simply don't have it, it's a shame.
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Nov 15 2007, 05:01 PM
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Unincorporated Area ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 21-July 06 From: Deep South Member No.: 12138 |
With all the celebrities in congress and holding other offices, I think it goes to show that all you have to be is "popular" to win an election.
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