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[dubone]

archiham04, on Jun 27 2005, 06:15 PM, said:

Mr McElroy...

http://www.risdenmce...risden/main.htm

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i actually had thought furman did the renderings of those blvd centro projects, but i guess that was naive.  

i'm jealous of quite a few of those projects on that website, and wish they were in this city, although i guess so many of the nice projects on the site ARE in charlotte, which shouldn't be taken for granted.

is risdenmcelroy local to the southeast, or does he do a lot of project renderings nationally?

[atlrvr]

dubone, on Jun 27 2005, 10:54 PM, said:

i actually had thought furman did the renderings of those blvd centro projects, but i guess that was naive. 

i'm jealous of quite a few of those projects on that website, and wish they were in this city, although i guess so many of the nice projects on the site ARE in charlotte, which shouldn't be taken for granted.

is risdenmcelroy local to the southeast, or does he do a lot of project renderings nationally?

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Well, his office is in the same building as Blvd Centro on East.....so it's no surprise that he does a lot of Charlotte (and Centro stuff), but he has done projects all over the world.  I really enjoy his renderings, and typically think that he does the best job of anyone I've seen short of computer modeling.

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Shawn&Zae, on Jun 27 2005, 03:20 PM, said:

What, they also designed those raggy dorms at Winston Salem State? It's not even a couple of years old and those dorms are falling apart, Rams Common Building 1 got flooded out last semester.

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LOL!  That WSSU project was actually the first project I was involved with having moved into the area.  I think it's ugly myself.  Very difficult site to deal, esp. since the developers over-developed that piece of land.  Too many buildings on such a small tract of land with something like a natural 12% cross-slope.  Seeing the same issues with UNC Charlotte's Greek Village.

[Shawn&Zae]

cooperdawg, on Jun 28 2005, 11:56 AM, said:

LOL!  That WSSU project was actually the first project I was involved with having moved into the area.  I think it's ugly myself.  Very difficult site to deal, esp. since the developers over-developed that piece of land.  Too many buildings on such a small tract of land with something like a natural 12% cross-slope.  Seeing the same issues with UNC Charlotte's Greek Village.

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Lawd, Don't get me started on the new housing complex, Gleaston-Hairston Terraces, it's almost completed and it began construction in January, no wonder it ususually fall apart in a few years, look at how fast they build it. I think dorms that uses lumber and a brick fascade won't last as long as to a dorm that was built with bricks and cider blocks entirely. Wilson, the traditional dorm is pretty new, but it's entirely made out of bricks and cider blocks is pretty good, the interior walls are drywalled though. And on yea, WSSU is in Winston, the city is nothing but hills. I ca see why Rams Common 1 was flooded out.

[cooperdawg]

Shawn&Zae, on Jun 28 2005, 12:53 PM, said:

Lawd, Don't get me started on the new housing complex, Gleaston-Hairston Terraces, it's almost completed and it began construction in January, no wonder it ususually fall apart in a few years, look at how fast they build it. I think dorms that uses lumber and a brick fascade won't last as long as to a dorm that was built with bricks and cider blocks entirely. Wilson, the traditional dorm is pretty new, but it's entirely made out of bricks and cider blocks is pretty good, the interior walls are drywalled though. And on yea, WSSU is in Winston, the city is nothing but hills. I ca see why Rams Common 1 was flooded out.

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Yeah, you often run into problems with flooding on steep sites, esp. if large portions of the site need to be ADA accessible.  If you pack buildings too tight and then grade them flat to be accessible, you wind up with steep walls on the exterior and ponding on the interior of the site.  Granted, extensive storm collection usually solves this problem, but as I recall, the contractor for the WSSU project was pretty poor.  We had a lot of problems with them and have never worked with them since.  Coincidentally, the builder has had other problems across the country as one community near completion of the project saw the poor wiring set the whole community ablaze.  American Campus Communities I believe was the company.

[dubone]

this project apparently is continuing to move forward.

A CBJ tidbit has Coffee Cup looking to sign on to join the project.  

http://charlotte.biz...1/tidbits1.html

I really hope this project gets off the ground.  It is definitely a forgotten corner of town.

[monsoon]

I hope this area ends up being called something besides "West End".  Names like that are really starting to get old.

[dubone]

monsoon, on Aug 1 2005, 08:11 AM, said:

I hope this area ends up being called something besides "West End".  Names like that are really starting to get old.

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yeah, and even though it is "due west" of the square, no one really thinks of this as the "west" part of downtown, as our minds are shifted a quarter turn with the grid streets.  Besides, the area around biddleville/west trade is already branded as historic west end.

I think it is still okay to have 1 "end" per cardinal, as long as they are roughly similar (ie. south end is just south of the original city limits, so west end should be just east....   it would be dumb if briar creek became "east end" because it happened to be the eastern edge of city limits in the 1950s or something....)


So, i agree with you, but for different reasons.

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monsoon, on Aug 1 2005, 10:11 AM, said:

I hope this area ends up being called something besides "West End".  Names like that are really starting to get old.

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How about WeMor? No, probably sounds too close to Wilmore.  Name ideas?

[atlrvr]

Morehead Station
SouthLake
Valley Heights
The Shoppes at Weste Ende
Crescent Square
The Parking Lot District

Take your pick......  

A few genuine suggestions:

Westhead
Pantherville

There is an effort underway to brand that whole area as "3rd Ward Warehouse District"

Edited by atlrvr, 01 August 2005 - 10:15 AM.

[SmellyCat]

I actually like the Warehouse District.  Sounds gritty.

[dubone]

it is interesting that we have two very similar districts that are trying to grow and brand themselves at the same time.  The Music Factory/Lazes/Uptown Village and this West Morehead/Clarkson area are very similar in that they are within the 277/77 loop, are in the corner, where they are mostly cut off from the rest of uptown AND the neighborhoods outside of the loop, and don't have a unique historical identity to draw on because modern freeways delineate their boundaries.

[dubone]

It is so close to the charlotte pipe and foundary, maybe they could incorporate that into the name.... like the Foundary District......

my only beef with "Warehouse" district is that duke energy already tore down all the warehouses on the land so now it would be a misnomer....

[ElricSeven]

dubone, on Aug 1 2005, 12:31 PM, said:

It is so close to the charlotte pipe and foundary, maybe they could incorporate that into the name.... like the Foundary District......

my only beef with "Warehouse" district is that duke energy already tore down all the warehouses on the land so now it would be a misnomer....

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We could call it the "Wherehouse? District".

[atlrvr]

I've decided that I really like Pantherville....at least as a general branding of the area.....

A lot of names like the "name your infrastructure" District just get so worn out, and every city has them.  Pantherville, while a bit cheesy, does draw from a nearby ammenity, but will probably make people from out of town a bit curious about the name, or perhaps implies that their is some sort of grand Panther history to that area.  

As a side note, is SoDa ever catches on as the name of the area beween I-277 and Parkwood.....I would love to see public art there with large soda bottle statues with broken glass mosaic......the local Coke and Pepsi and Cheerwine bottlers could help pay for the artists.

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[dubone]

i'm warming to pantherville, but it is definitely cheesy.


when i first read that tuscan wanted to coin SoDa, i got really annoyed....  People are already confused enough by NoDa, but at least it can be explained quickly as being NOrth DAvidson Street....  SoDa is still on north davidson street, not south davidson, so it just seems really dumb and confusing to call it SoDa.  

I think we need to go back to naming areas after people and history: Lazes Corner or Furman Park or Farris Heights...    it worked for Mr. E. Dilworth Latta.

[atlrvr]

dubone, on Aug 1 2005, 01:05 PM, said:

when i first read that tuscan wanted to coin SoDa, i got really annoyed....  People are already confused enough by NoDa, but at least it can be explained quickly as being NOrth DAvidson Street....  SoDa is still on north davidson street, not south davidson, so it just seems really dumb and confusing to call it SoDa. 

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While I share your feelings on SoDa being a misnomer, that is the main reason that I suggest turning into the Soda District......many people may then believe that it was the historical bottling district (there were never any bottlers there), and then they could wonder if it is meant to be South Davidson (which it isn't), and then end up wondering what the hell the district means all togehter.  It's the idiosyncrasies that add color to a city.

On a related note.....I really want all the parts of Charlotte to have so collective names.....area names that would show up in a tour book.  I would like there to be tons of small "known" areas all over town that have distinctive branding that will make a tourist want to explore every one of them.

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[cinco]

sorry guys.  pantherville is just plain bad. IMO, of course.  please let die this towns' feline fetish. i agree that the "end" moniker is beat - not to mention it shows a deprevity of creativeness....

[ElricSeven]

cinco, on Aug 1 2005, 01:59 PM, said:

sorry guys.  pantherville is just plain bad. IMO, of course.  please let die this towns' feline fetish. i agree that the "end" moniker is beat - not to mention it shows a deprevity of creativeness....

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How about WeDa?

[monsoon]

Why not just "West Morehead"?  Everybody knows what that means.