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#101 CtownMikey

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 11:54 AM

acrosse the street was also where gillete stadium had once considered being built at.. or was it another stadium?? It was a while ago, but i do remmeber a huge proposal being set there.

 

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 01:57 PM

CtownMikey, on Jun 3 2005, 01:54 PM, said:

acrosse the street was also where gillete stadium had once considered being built at.. or was it another stadium?? It was a while ago, but i do remmeber a huge proposal being set there.

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No, the patriots NEVER considered moving there. A man, one single man gave the Cranston Herald the ridicious idea that the area was being cleared out for a stadium and they bought it, hook, line and sinker. And I know the guy because I work with him. He was obsessed with the idea of the Pats moving there.

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:09 PM

No offense.. But what was so special about that gas station? It was an eyesore.. Just because something is old (and in this case octagonal), doesn't mean it is of historic value.. It was out of place, poorly planned, and ruined the flow, or what is left of it after Rt 95, from Fed Hill to Downtown..

There is a fine line between historic and eyesore.. And in my opinion, if the building cannot be used currently, or adapitevly reuseable (if that is a word), then tear it down, and move on.. With a new landmark..

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:18 PM

TheAnk, on Jun 3 2005, 04:09 PM, said:

No offense.. But what was so special about that gas station? It was an eyesore.. Just because something is old (and in this case octagonal), doesn't mean it is of historic value.. It was out of place, poorly planned, and ruined the flow, or what is left of it after Rt 95, from Fed Hill to Downtown..

There is a fine line between historic and eyesore.. And in my opinion, if the building cannot be used currently, or adapitevly reuseable (if that is a word), then tear it down, and move on.. With a new landmark..

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I totally agree with you on this. But try and get people around here to agree to it. People here, especially old people, like to be able to drive by and point to places where they use to do this and they use to do that. Yeah, that's where I use to go for ice cream! Yeah that's where I went on my 1st date. Ya can't save every old building. Nobody said boo when they tore down the old cold storage building to make way for the Jefferson Apts. I say either rehab the old farmer's market or tear it down. It's an eyesore! It's been set on fire 3 times now and poses a threat to firefighters.

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:32 PM

I think I said this here before, but I think a Fanuiel Hall type place @ the farmer's market using the current building would be ideal.. It would stretch down city to the Promenade, and the use works perfectly and historically with the building..

I actually emailed Carpionato with the idea.. Like an Epcot Center of Prov representing all the cultures' cuisine...

No response.. I bet they just steal the idea...    :lol:

Regarding historic buildings.. Old people can say the same stuff, just using "There 'used to' be a building there" etc, etc..

I never understood the outrage over teardowns.. It is almost ALWAYS more economically feasible to keep the building.. The only reason teardowns happen is cause they are no longer feasible.. But people come out of the wood work to save these places.. Never got that.. You know a historic building when you see one... a 1950s era gas station, is DECIDEDLY not historical..

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:37 PM

Well, I love the masonic temple building that's now being converted to a hotel, but if you notice they've completely gutted the inside and totally removed the roof and back side of the building. What's left? Just 3 sides. This will be an almost completely new building at a cost of over $ 80 million. What would a new hotel have cost? Probably $65 million. But it is/was a beautiful building which should have been saved.

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:51 PM

Frankie811, on Jun 3 2005, 03:37 PM, said:

Well, I love the masonic temple building that's now being converted to a hotel, but if you notice they've completely gutted the inside and totally removed the roof and back side of the building. What's left? Just 3 sides. This will be an almost completely new building at a cost of over $ 80 million. What would a new hotel have cost? Probably $65 million. But it is/was a beautiful building which should have been saved.

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Pretty sure the tax break generously even that disparity out.. Or it would have never happened.. Yeah I park at the mall every day and commute to Boston..

A lot of progress.. A lot of work to preserve those three walls..

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 08:14 PM

TheAnk, on Jun 3 2005, 03:51 PM, said:

Pretty sure the tax break generously even that disparity out.. Or it would have never happened.. Yeah I park at the mall every day and commute to Boston..

A lot of progress.. A lot of work to preserve those three walls..

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Don't pay to park at the mall, park on Capitol Hill, the lot behind DOH has the gate up all day for "visitors."

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 11:22 AM

Frankie811, on Jun 3 2005, 04:18 PM, said:

I totally agree with you on this. But try and get people around here to agree to it. People here, especially old people, like to be able to drive by and point to places where they use to do this and they use to do that. Yeah, that's where I use to go for ice cream! Yeah that's where I went on my 1st date. Ya can't save every old building. Nobody said boo when they tore down the old cold storage building to make way for the Jefferson Apts. I say either rehab the old farmer's market or tear it down. It's an eyesore! It's been set on fire 3 times now and poses a threat to firefighters.

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I totally agree about the gas station,  and always thought of it as an eyesore.  I  never mentioned it for fear of having my head handed to me!  My only issue with the gas station was the speed and secrecy with which it was done.

Anyway...   now that it's out in the open, I'm glad the gas station is gone b/c it will benefit the whole area with the addition to the Hiliday Inn/Hiltion.

Frankie... you make an excellent point about Rhode Islanders.  When a stranger asks for directions they get something like, go down to where the Almacs use to be and take a left... etc etc...    :rofl:

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 03:36 PM

Talk about short notice:

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Date: June 14th, 2005
For Immediate Release
Contact: Karen Southern, Press Secretary
(401) 421-2489 x 752
ksouthern@providenceri.com

MEDIA ADVISORY

SASAKI ASSOCIATES TO PRESENT REVISED "VISION FOR PROVIDENCE 2020" AT COMMUNITY FORUMS

Revisions to framework for future economic development based on community feedback

Providence - Mayor David N. Cicilline announced today that the architectural and urban design firm Sasaki Associates is returning to Providence to present changes to the "Vision for Providence 2020" based on further analysis and feedback from the community forums held in May.

Sasaki Associates will present revisions to the public at two community forums:

Wednesday, June 15th
6:00 p.m.
Bridgham Middle School cafeteria
1655 Westminster Street

Thursday, June 16th
6:00 p.m.
West Broadway Elementary School cafeteria
29 Bainbridge Ave.


ProvidenceRI.com

I have another meeting to go to tomorrow, but I'll be at the Thursday meeting.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:03 AM

Damn!  That is short notice.  I can't make it to these.  Take notes and pictures!

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 07:52 AM

Recchia, on Jun 3 2005, 09:14 PM, said:

Don't pay to park at the mall, park on Capitol Hill, the lot behind DOH has the gate up all day for "visitors."

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Get out of here.. Any chance of getting towed??

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 11:08 AM

TheAnk, on Jun 15 2005, 08:52 AM, said:

Get out of here.. Any chance of getting towed??

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I haven't had a problem yet..not sure about weekends though, but its probly fine then too.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 11:51 AM

Nor can I make it. I'll be interested to see what you guys post ( who can attend )

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:34 PM

Recchia, on Jun 3 2005, 10:14 PM, said:

Don't pay to park at the mall, park on Capitol Hill, the lot behind DOH has the gate up all day for "visitors."

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It doesn't bug me to pay $1 for 3 hours.  What bugs me is that  the garage REALLY needs to do something to upgrade the ventilation system.   It literally stinks while your sitting in line waiting to get out.  The exhaust fumes are aweful at times.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:43 PM

EPBOY, on Jun 15 2005, 02:34 PM, said:

It doesn't bug me to pay $1 for 3 hours.  What bugs me is that  the garage REALLY needs to do something to upgrade the ventilation system.   It literally stinks while your sitting in line waiting to get out.  The exhaust fumes are aweful at times.

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I commute to Boston everyday.. So you can buy a monthly pass for $115.. Paying to park 1.5 miles from my home kills me..

Maybe if there was a better RIPTA route from RIC...   :lol:

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 04:52 AM

http://www.projo.com...16.239ca47.html

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 10:19 AM

"The changes include reduced building heights along the waterfront..."

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:17 AM

http://www.projo.com...17.2467469.html

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 05:48 AM

Frankie811, on Jun 17 2005, 01:17 AM, said:

'"There's just not enough green," said Virginia L. Branch, who lives on the West Side. "Maybe I'm just delusional. When I heard the highway was going away, I envisioned more green space."'

Then why don't you move to Foster.   There's a huge string of connected parks proposed right?  That isn't enough???

"Janet Keller, who lives on Willow Street in the West End, said the highway already cuts off the western neighborhoods, and tall buildings would make it worse."

What is she talking about??  A tall building would conceal the highway, not make the view worse.  

"Redesign Dean Street so it does not feel like a highway."----good to see they're thinkin about that.