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[Cotuit]

Frankie811, on Jun 30 2005, 10:05 AM, said:

You can see what were typing when were posting???????

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Of course I can.  

Ok, no, I can't actually see what you are typing, but I can see what threads people are in and if they are in the process of posting or not (I'm not sure if regular members can see that or not).

[glassandsteel]

You mean on the bottom where our names are?  If you drag over to them, it tells you what that person's doing.  Actually, only I'm allowed to see what people are typing while they're typing.  I'm good like that. :shifty: Really.

[mvince03]

Has anyone had a chance to tour Dolce Villa? I did 2 weeks ago and it is a really "sharp" looking hotel... I would love to stay thats for sure!

[Frankie811]

mvince03, on Jul 1 2005, 10:04 PM, said:

Has anyone had a chance to tour Dolce Villa? I did 2 weeks ago and it is a really "sharp" looking hotel... I would love to stay thats for sure!

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http://www.urbanplan...indpost&p=89008

[Cotuit]

I've done some updates to the first page of this thread. There's still more additions to make, but it's a bit more put together than it was.

[Garris]

Cotuit, on Jul 6 2005, 11:21 AM, said:

I've done some updates to the first page of this thread. There's still more additions to make, but it's a bit more put together than it was.

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Great job!  After some thinking, additions of projects (that I don't think are dead) would include Greene St condos and the Intercontinental hotel.

- Garris

[CtownMikey]

how many of the proposed projects are still up in the air, and how many are just waiting for groundbreaking day?

[Garris]

CtownMikey, on Jul 6 2005, 10:08 PM, said:

how many of the proposed projects are still up in the air, and how many are just waiting for groundbreaking day?

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Good question.   I was wondering the same thing.  Of the "proposed" projects, here's how I broke it down.  I invite others to feel free to reorder this:

VERY solid and awaiting groundbreaking:
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333 Atwells Avenue (Rialto Site)
Dunkin Donuts Center Renovations
One Ten Westminster
Providence Community Health Center
Waterford Residences (Westin 2nd Tower)

SOMEWHAT solid and likely to groundbreak:
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Brown University | Sidney E. Frank Hall (this isn't happening for a while)
Charles Street hotel
Fox Point Bath House library proposal
Johnson & Wales Harborside Campus
Katherine Gibbs School Condos
Power Block | Hilton Hotel & Residences
RISD | Chase Center (this isn't happening for a while)
Saki's Apartments

Up in the air:
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Conley Wharf
Fogarty Building Hotel
LaSalle Square Improvements
Olneyville Riverside
Power Block 55 Broadway (Paolino Site)
Power Block Atwells Parcel
WBNA 1577 Westminster St. housing

Who the hell knows:
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200 Dyer Street
AS220 Dreyfuss Hotel Building
Greene St/Churchill Banks
Imperial Place
Heritage Harbor/Mixed Use
Providence Fruit & Produce Warehouse
Richmond Square mixed-use

I don't know enough about this:
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Williams-Woods Place | South Providence
Emmett Square Improvements
6/10 Interchange Project

[Recchia]

6/10 interchange will happen.  Which design they choose, that's another story.  And of course, it probly won't happen til 2010.  

[Cotuit]

Garris, on Jul 7 2005, 01:33 PM, said:

Good question.   I was wondering the same thing.  Of the "proposed" projects, here's how I broke it down.  I invite others to feel free to reorder this:

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I was going to do this, glad you did it:



VERY solid and awaiting groundbreaking:
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333 Atwells Avenue (Rialto Site) They have a sales office set up on Atwells
Dunkin Donuts Center Renovations
One Ten Westminster
Providence Community Health Center
Waterford Residences (Westin 2nd Tower)

SOMEWHAT solid and likely to groundbreak:
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Brown University | Sidney E. Frank Hall (this isn't happening for a while)
Charles Street hotel
Fox Point Bath House library proposal
Johnson & Wales Harborside Campus
Katherine Gibbs School Condos
Power Block | Hilton Hotel & Residences
RISD | Chase Center (this isn't happening for a while) The official word is still 2006 ground-breaking, though I have no idea where the money is coming from
Saki's Apartments

Up in the air:
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Conley Wharf Deller (I believe) said that moving the RIPTA ferry was happening this year, and the arts space seems to be in progress. The rest of the grand plans... who knows?
Fogarty Building Hotel
LaSalle Square Improvements I saw surveyors in LaSalle Square this morning
Olneyville Riverside
Power Block 55 Broadway (Paolino Site)
Power Block Atwells Parcel
WBNA 1577 Westminster St. housing

Who the hell knows:
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200 Dyer Street
AS220 Dreyfuss Hotel Building
Greene St/Churchill Banks
Imperial Place
Heritage Harbor/Mixed Use
Providence Fruit & Produce Warehouse
Richmond Square mixed-use

I don't know enough about this:
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Williams-Woods Place | South Providence
Emmett Square Improvements
6/10 Interchange Project This will happen, they just need to decide on which scheme to go forward with

[Recchia]

I wanna say that RIPTA has already begun moving the ferry to Conley Wharf, and that the parking lot got paved for them already.  I'll try and find out for sure....

[gregw]

I would say that Grant's Block and The Plant (Puente) also belong in the first category. It's true that Grant's Block has been going through some design changes but Chace is totally committed to it.  

Heritage Harbor should be upgraded to the second tier based on SBER's track record. Construction is scheduled to begin in 2006.  

I would move One Ten down a notch based on the fact that the design is clearly in flux and groundbreaking is not imminent.

I also think the AS220 Dreyfuss Project is pretty definite. (Maybe second category).

Garris, on Jul 7 2005, 11:33 AM, said:

Good question.   I was wondering the same thing.  Of the "proposed" projects, here's how I broke it down.  I invite others to feel free to reorder this:

VERY solid and awaiting groundbreaking:
---------------------------------------------------------
333 Atwells Avenue (Rialto Site)
Dunkin Donuts Center Renovations
One Ten Westminster
Providence Community Health Center
Waterford Residences (Westin 2nd Tower)

SOMEWHAT solid and likely to groundbreak:
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Brown University | Sidney E. Frank Hall (this isn't happening for a while)
Charles Street hotel
Fox Point Bath House library proposal
Johnson & Wales Harborside Campus
Katherine Gibbs School Condos
Power Block | Hilton Hotel & Residences
RISD | Chase Center (this isn't happening for a while)
Saki's Apartments

Up in the air:
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Conley Wharf
Fogarty Building Hotel
LaSalle Square Improvements
Olneyville Riverside
Power Block 55 Broadway (Paolino Site)
Power Block Atwells Parcel
WBNA 1577 Westminster St. housing

Who the hell knows:
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200 Dyer Street
AS220 Dreyfuss Hotel Building
Greene St/Churchill Banks
Imperial Place
Heritage Harbor/Mixed Use
Providence Fruit & Produce Warehouse
Richmond Square mixed-use

I don't know enough about this:
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Williams-Woods Place | South Providence
Emmett Square Improvements
6/10 Interchange Project

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[Cotuit]

Recchia, on Jul 7 2005, 02:15 PM, said:

I wanna say that RIPTA has already begun moving the ferry to Conley Wharf, and that the parking lot got paved for them already.  I'll try and find out for sure....

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I just happened to ride by there today, which is really totally random for me to be there. There is an area that has been paved over which one would assume to be a temporary parking lot. The area is just horrid though, it's not exactly the best 'welcome to Providence' especially when compared to Perrotti Park on the Newport end.

Also, I was amazed to see how far the 195 work has come along. Lots of of ramp support structures near the Hurricane Barrier on Allens Ave.

[Recchia]

Cotuit, on Jul 7 2005, 06:21 PM, said:

I just happened to ride by there today, which is really totally random for me to be there. There is an area that has been paved over which one would assume to be a temporary parking lot. The area is just horrid though, it's not exactly the best 'welcome to Providence' especially when compared to Perrotti Park on the Newport end.

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Okay, yes, that paved area is where the ferry will now dock...I think starting sometime this summer.

[Garris]

gregw, on Jul 7 2005, 02:16 PM, said:

I would say that Grant's Block and The Plant (Puente) also belong in the first category. It's true that Grant's Block has been going through some design changes but Chace is totally committed to it. 

I didn't include Grant's block in my breakdown since it's already actually in progress...

gregw, on Jul 7 2005, 02:16 PM, said:

Heritage Harbor should be upgraded to the second tier based on SBER's track record. Construction is scheduled to begin in 2006. 

Where Heritage Harbor is concerned with its history, until it's done and opened, it's in the "Who the Hell Knows" category for me...

gregw, on Jul 7 2005, 02:16 PM, said:

I would move One Ten down a notch based on the fact that the design is clearly in flux and groundbreaking is not imminent.

Really?  They're actively looking for potential tenents and have funding, as far as I remember reading...  I really think that one's pretty solid.  Everyone wants it to happen badly.

gregw, on Jul 7 2005, 02:16 PM, said:

I also think the AS220 Dreyfuss Project is pretty definite. (Maybe second category).

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I actually should have put it in the "I don't know enough" category...  Where any non-profit is concerned, though, nothing is even done until its done...

- Garris

[Cotuit]

I did a new map of Providence Projects, check it out:


Click to enlarge

[Garris]

Cotuit, on Jul 24 2005, 03:46 PM, said:

I did a new map of Providence Projects, check it out:


Click to enlarge

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Amazing map!  That must have taken you forever.  Which program did you use?  Some initial impressions...

- The amount of space liberated by the 195 relocation is impressive...
- The Lifespan hospital complex (especially its parking) is as large as the entire Jewelry District and as large as the entire downtown...
- Development is scattered all over the city...  Nice.
- Look at all that East Providence waterfront...

- Garris

Edited by Garris, 24 July 2005 - 04:19 PM.

[Cotuit]

Garris, on Jul 24 2005, 06:18 PM, said:

Amazing map!  That must have taken you forever.  Which program did you use?

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It didn't take too long, a little over an hour. The biggest issue was trying to figure out exactly where everything is, I hope I didn't screw any locations up too much. I did it in Photoshop, a program that I am very much an amateur on, and there's probably a much easy and quicker way I could have done it.

I was thinking of painting the East Providence parcels yellow, only a few of them have very solid proposals that someone is actually going to build something on them, maybe I should do them in green like the 195 land, to indicate that it is future development.

[Recchia]

Garris, on Jul 24 2005, 06:18 PM, said:

Amazing map!  That must have taken you forever.  Which program did you use?  Some initial impressions...

- The Lifespan hospital complex (especially its parking) is as large as the entire Jewelry District and as large as the entire downtown...

- Garris

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If light rail/BRT is ever seriously considered for Eddy St or even Allens Ave, the hospital area would be prime for Transit oriented redevelopment with all those surface lots.  It already is a HUGE employment center, so imagine if dense housing/retail were thrown into the mix too...

[Garris]

Recchia, on Jul 24 2005, 05:35 PM, said:

If light rail/BRT is ever seriously considered for Eddy St or even Allens Ave, the hospital area would be prime for Transit oriented redevelopment with all those surface lots.  It already is a HUGE employment center, so imagine if dense housing/retail were thrown into the mix too...

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I don't know...  I work there, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there...  A transit nexus maybe, but I don't know about a residential one unless Connally Wharf really improves that area...  

I've never understood why areas around hospitals tend to be so miserable...  I don't know if hospitals buy land in bad areas because its cheaper, there are fewer NIMBY's to tick off, or if the neighborhoods around hospitals become bad after the hospitals arrive...  You students of urban planning, which is it?

Look at a lot of major hospitals...  John's Hopkins, Yale, Temple, Columbia, Mount Sinai (kinda), U Maryland, U Minnesota, BU, U Penn, etc are either smack in the middle of or border miserable areas.  Some of the hospitals I can think of in good areas tend to be private or ended up there as an accident of history.

Then, in Prov, we have hospitals that started in areas that, at the time, were the very fringes of the city (RIH, Miriam, RW, etc) whose neighborhoods don't want them now...

I'm sure someone has to have written a book about this...

I think, pedestrian wise, it would help enormously if the sidewalks and walking experiences from downtown and Fox Point connecting to and then down Eddy were improved.  I know people who work at RIH or W&I who considered living in Fox Point or downtown and walking except that the walk scared them a bit too much and they moved elsewhere...

- Garris

Edited by Garris, 24 July 2005 - 07:51 PM.