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[sugoiben]

vdogg, on Jul 14 2005, 10:40 PM, said:

They may very well end up in Hampton if Fort Monroe is used as an area for government offices (which officials have discussed as a possibility.

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The current plan is to move most of the workers to Ft. Belvoir in southern Fairfax.  The biggest issue everyone has with this is that you're moving people from Crystal City/Rosslyn, which are nice urban areas, well served by metro to Ft. Belvior which is down an already congested I-95 and not served by metro.  
Not only would this make a complete mess of traffic, but there are concerns as well that a lot of these workers will quit rather than be moved.  This one really has people up in arms.  More about it here.  When the gov. and senator all come out together to speak against it, ya know it's big.
There was another article recently I couldn't find again, about a study that said the move would make traffic in the region worse, increase pollution and all sorts of other doom and gloom things about the move.  I'd have to agree, it's a silly move by the BRAC.

[wrldcoupe4]

sugoiben, on Jul 15 2005, 12:23 PM, said:

Dense?  Tysons??   
Like the article posted above said, Tyson's is the country's most successful office park.  But it's still just an office park essentially.  Tyson's is not a downtown anything.  It's not pedestrian friendly at all.  Recent article about thathere.
All the office buildings have huge setbacks from the streets.  You can't get anywhere, safely,  in tyson's without a car.  And even then it can be a lesson in patience. 

Yes, the future plans for what's to be built in tysons are neat.  But I believe the tallest proposed building is only 30 stories.  Norfolk's got that beat with the Granby(hopefully).  And all of the proposed stuff is dependent entirely on the metro coming thru tysons.  Which is years away from happening, if it happens at all.
Seems the latest cost estimates are causing a little sticker shock.  Read about that one here.

Not that I don't want to see tyson's grow and succeed.  But I would never wish tyson's problems on Norfolk.  Norfolk is doing really well.  Tyson's might outpace Norfolk's growth one day, but it is going to have some seriously difficult growing pains.

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I'd agree with that word for word.

[wrldcoupe4]

I heard about this a couple years ago, but just to probably stun everyone else:
The Springfield Interchange improvement "project consists of building more than 50 bridges and widening I-95 to 24 lanes between the Beltway and Franconia Road."

"The new Springfield Interchange is designed to handle the more than 500,000 vehicles that are expected to pass through the area each day and more."

Springfield Interchange

Edited by wrldcoupe4, 17 July 2005 - 09:53 PM.

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I wonder if this has anything to do with the mixing bowl in Springfield. That area is terrible for traffic.. people switching lanes are all over the road.

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Didn't I read recently of Tysons trying to become a more urban type place.. costing in the millions to convert from mostly suburban to urban type development.

[urbanvb]

Those Fairfax renderings are great! A good friend of mine lives right there near Chain Bridge. I will have to send him a link to see this site. Hey worldcoupe, is there a dedicated website for these changes that he can check out?

[vdogg]

guynvb, on Jul 22 2005, 11:33 PM, said:

Didn't I read recently of Tysons trying to become a more urban type place.. costing in the millions to convert from mostly suburban to urban type development.

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Yes, that is correct. I think there's some opposition to this though. I'll have to check it out and get some more details for u.

[wrldcoupe4]

hey man here's a link for your friend...I go to school at GMU which is off Chainbridge....I'll be able to take pics of all this stuff whenI'm up there

http://www.fairfaxva...ectPictures.asp

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wrldcoupe4, on Jul 24 2005, 12:32 AM, said:

hey man here's a link for your friend...I go to school at GMU which is off Chainbridge....I'll be able to take pics of all this stuff whenI'm up there

http://www.fairfaxva...ectPictures.asp

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great, thanks wrldcouple

[vdogg]

Here is a link to Restons proposed tallest buildings. Thanks Sugoiben for the info   .
Also, here is a rendering.

[sugoiben]

vdogg, on Aug 1 2005, 01:46 AM, said:

Here is a link to Restons proposed tallest buildings. Thanks Sugoiben for the info  .

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The curious thing about that article.  They claim those buildings will tbe tallest in Reston, but I don't see how that's possible.  They are only gonna be 16 stories.  There are several existing buildings in the Reston Town Center that are already plenty taller than that, and a couple others in planning/construction phases that will be bigger too.  There are existing 20, 19 and 17 story office towers, and two other 21 story buildings in the works(condos I think).  Just don't see how these 16 story condos lay claim to Reston's tallest.

[vdogg]

sugoiben, on Aug 1 2005, 12:45 PM, said:

The curious thing about that article.  They claim those buildings will tbe tallest in Reston, but I don't see how that's possible.  They are only gonna be 16 stories.  There are several existing buildings in the Reston Town Center that are already plenty taller than that, and a couple others in planning/construction phases that will be bigger too.  There are existing 20, 19 and 17 story office towers, and two other 21 story buildings in the works(condos I think).  Just don't see how these 16 story condos lay claim to Reston's tallest.

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What type of ceiling height/foot per floor ratios are we talking. Are they being built on top of a garage and if so is that garage being included in the height?

[sugoiben]

vdogg, on Aug 1 2005, 12:55 PM, said:

What type of ceiling height/foot per floor ratios are we talking. Are they being built on top of a garage and if so is that garage being included in the height?

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I thought of that, but I mean we're talking 21 story offices versus 16 story condos, and they said the garage for it will all be underground.  Unless every condo is getting cathedral ceilings, I don't see how it adds up.

[TheFutureIsNow]

Here are some new buildings/complexes for arlington/rosslyn:
Links fixed

Turnberry Tower- Ultra-Modern luxury condiminium, 25 floors
http://www.turnberry...irect=turnberry
The Westin - Arlington Gateway
http://www.starwoodh...propertyID=1513
The Waterview
http://www.theonlyvi....asp?flash=true
The residences at Liberty center
http://www.libertycenter.com/
The fairmont- Arlington Gateway
Quincy Plaza
Potomac Yard: Go To http://www.nationalg...on_block_a.html to see the plans for construction

Edited by TheFutureIsNow, 14 August 2005 - 07:41 PM.

[vdogg]

TheFutureIsNow, on Aug 14 2005, 08:48 PM, said:

Here are some new buildings for arlington/rosslyn:

Turnberry Tower- Ultra-Modern luxury condiminium, 25 floors

Link

The Westin - Arlington Gateway

Link

The Waterview

<a href='http://http://theonlyview.com/home.asp?flash=true' target='_blank'></a>

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Welcome to the forum future! . I must admit, I'm having trouble seeing those links.

[rusthebuss]

I wish we were seeing that much development in the HR Region.

[TheFutureIsNow]

Here's the development i found for reston, primarily the reston town center complex:

Midtown East and West
http://midtownreston...sh/midtown.html
The Paramount
http://www.skiarch.c...20Paramount.jpg
JW Mariott at Reston Town Center
Dominion at Town Center
http://www.martinaia...own Center.html (Almost Completed)
Athena Reniassance Condiminiums

[TheFutureIsNow]

Other Projects- East Market at Fair Lakes- By elan condos
http://www.elancondos.com/main.html
http://www.elancondo...ighborhood.html
New govt building in fairfax, around the detention center and the Massey building

Avera Station- New condiminiums- Vienna

New in Tyson's Corner
1725 Tyson's Boulevard
http://www.lernerent...25tysonsii.html
1800 Tyson's Boulevard (UC)
http://www.tysons2.com/1800.html
Park Crest
http://www.parkcrest...es/location.htm

On emporis there are 9 new, approved buildings, 4 with 30 floors. There all in a complex called Tyson's 2 Phase 2. In an article it says that due to the lack of residential space, 1,250 more condiminiums will be added, i wonder if they are part of this?

[vdogg]

Wow. It looks like I'm gonna have to start a projects and construction thread for NOVA too.

[TheFutureIsNow]

I've found more:

Residential

The Palatine- Arlington
http://www.monumentr...om/thepalatine/

The Odessey Condiminium-Arlington
http://www.odysseyco...enderings4.html

Dumbarton Place
http://www.monumentr...renderings.html

The Hawthorn
http://www.monumentr...images.asp?id=1

Office

Columbia Center- Washington DC
http://www.monumentr...er/building.asp

Monument 3
http://www.monumentr.../monumentthree/

You can see lots more recently completed and current projects by going to http://www.wdgarch.com/flash.html and clicking on Market