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Tanger Outlets coming to Charlotte


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#1 cityboi

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:49 AM

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A 90-store lifestyle outlet shopping center will open in Charlotte in 2014. The lifestyle center will be smaller than Concord Mills. This will be the fourth Tanger Outlets in North Carolina. Greensboro based Tanger Outlets has outlet centers in 25 states and Canada. The three other locations in North Carolina are Tanger Outlets Blowing Rock, Tanger Outlets Nags Head and Tanger Outlets Mebane which serves the Triad and the Triangle. Tanger Outlets Charlotte will have stores such as Banana Republic, Jones, New York, OshKosh B'Gosh, Tommy Hilfiger, Brooks Brothers, NIKE store, QVC Store, Saks Fifth Avenue OFF 5th, Lane Bryant, Gap and some other upscale outlet retail stores. It will be 350,000 square feet and will be located at the interchange if I-485 and Steele Creek Road. There are also plans for a 50,000 sq ft expansion.

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http://www.foxcharlo...-174682561.html

Edited by cityboi, 18 October 2012 - 12:18 PM.


 

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:29 PM

i hate it when they call these things "lifestyle." it's a mall. in this case a big ole pile of massive, traffic-inducing sprawl
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:09 PM

Wouldn't it be great if an authentic urban mall with these kind of stores (outlet or retail) is built uptown? Uptown is a big enough destination for an urban mall not to mention there is a large uptown residential population.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:59 PM

That would be exactly the kind of game changer uptown needs!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

Wouldn't it be great if an authentic urban mall with these kind of stores (outlet or retail) is built uptown? Uptown is a big enough destination for an urban mall not to mention there is a large uptown residential population.


Just not enough precedent to justify this, and there really is not a large uptown population, only 5-6k people. Where as SouthPark area (28211) has more than 30k of middle-upper class people. I think it would be successful but nobody will take that risk in this economy, and especially not at the price of uptown real estate.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

At least southpark is still urban Charlotte.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:48 PM

Wouldn't it be great if an authentic urban mall with these kind of stores (outlet or retail) is built uptown? Uptown is a big enough destination for an urban mall not to mention there is a large uptown residential population.


I'd settle for a few stores from Apple, Crate and Barrell, a few men and women boutiques, etc.

BTW - Does anyone know at 350K sqf how this planned outlet matches up to other Tangers outlets - just curious.

Edited by Urbanity, 18 October 2012 - 05:50 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

Who wants to go ahead and write the DeadMalls.com entry for this shopping center?

Being a #2 mall in a market--and a distant #2 at that--is generally not a good idea. Concord Mills is THE discount mall in the area, and any competitor in its class needs to be large, as mall size is key.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

Who wants to go ahead and write the DeadMalls.com entry for this shopping center?

Being a #2 mall in a market--and a distant #2 at that--is generally not a good idea. Concord Mills is THE discount mall in the area, and any competitor in its class needs to be large, as mall size is key.


What's your day job? Full time comments poster on the Observer? Keee-rist - let the thing be built and open before the doomsayers start harking about it as a dead weight...

P.S. Concord Mills and Steel Creek are worlds away from each other - both as geographic opposites of the county and people they draw.

Edited by Urbanity, 18 October 2012 - 09:20 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:25 PM

What's your day job? Full time comments poster on the Observer? Keee-rist - let the thing be built and open before the doomsayers start harking about it as a dead weight...

P.S. Concord Mills and Steel Creek are worlds away from each other - both as geographic opposites of the county and people they draw.


I don't think he's being negative. Carolina Place isn't too far away. This is great news, however, thats what makes it sort of a let down for me. I just wish something like this was closer to the Core, along/near the blue line to create an urban feel.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:01 AM

What's your day job? Full time comments poster on the Observer? Keee-rist - let the thing be built and open before the doomsayers start harking about it as a dead weight...

P.S. Concord Mills and Steel Creek are worlds away from each other - both as geographic opposites of the county and people they draw.


My day job? For years, commercial real estate (on the legal side, working for investors).

I agree with the other post that the center would do better if it were closer to uptown; being a second distant-suburban outlet mall is not the best location. Another outlet center near Carowinds, which failed, is nearby, indicating the area's support for such centers, given Concord Mills' dominance.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:01 AM

An urban outlet mall? There would be no better way to chase away intown retailers IMO. Steel Creek is plenty close.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:12 AM

The great thing about this outlet is that there will be stores that are not already in the Charlotte area. The area has Concord Mills but it's technically in Concord. Charlotte needs its own outlet stores closer to the city population. While it may not be the best example of urban development I think this gives Charlotte residents more retail choices and at least it won't look like a big box shopping center or a traditional mall. I think Tanger should do something a little different with Charlotte's outlet center like adding apartments or condos over the stores.

Edited by cityboi, 19 October 2012 - 07:14 AM.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:57 AM

I would have much preferred Premium Outlets closer to Charlotte, with a Tumi outlet, Diesel outlet, and a few other high-end designer outlets...Prada, D&G, Tory Burch, Gucci, etc. As it stands with Tanger Outlets, I think we're going to get a duplicate of the stores that Concord Mills already has, just on the other side of town. I have a bad feeling it's going to be another Banana Republic factory store, Gap outlet, Levi's, Hanes Brands, Nautica, Tommy Hilfiger, Chico's, etc.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:04 AM

Speaking of Premium Outlets, looks like they are going to be opening in Charlotte around the same time Tanger Outlets opens so there will be some competition

http://www.bizjourna...2/10/18/DE95920
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:16 AM

Speaking of Premium Outlets, looks like they are going to be opening in Charlotte around the same time Tanger Outlets opens so there will be some competition

http://www.bizjourna...2/10/18/DE95920


Oh wow! Unbelievable.....two outlet malls opening at the same time? Seriously?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:33 AM

Anyone else get the feeling that this is the nail in the coffin for a sizeable amount of uptown retail? IMO, Charlotte is already over-saturated with shopping. 3 malls, 3 outlet centers (including Concord Mills), numerous "lifestyle" centers, and indistinguishable number of strip malls just seems way too much for a city of 2 million CSA.

I mean you could make the point that NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, Atlanta, etc all have numerous malls as a result of their size, and they are still attracting mall development. But I just feel like this has killed the possibility of significant uptown retail, i.e. Gap, Banana Republic, Apple, Williams Sonoma, etc.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:45 AM

I don't think an outlet mall in Steele Creek will really affect potential shopping in Uptown. How many people that currently live in uptown or the surrounding neighborhoods are going to make the trip down there to shop? I know I wont.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

Speaking of Premium Outlets, looks like they are going to be opening in Charlotte around the same time Tanger Outlets opens so there will be some competition

http://www.bizjourna...2/10/18/DE95920


Wow, ask and I shall receive. Too bad according to the O that the stores that are likely to go in there are the same bland ones that will probably go in Tanger.

http://www.charlotte...-charlotte.html

I want a Tumi outlet! I need a way to appease my travel accessory addiction for less $$$. I go out of my way to visit a Tumi outlet when on business trips if there's one nearby.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:57 AM

Outlets are destination shopping and really won't have any impact of the future of uptown retail and since they're destination and have a regional draw, it's also the reason they're laced around the perimeter of the interstate (not to mention land cost and constraints). I'm all for urban retail, and would love to see something like Gateway Mall and City Creek Center in downtown Salt Lake City happen in Charlotte, but it's just not realistic. Ideally, I would have loved to have seen the Lennar piece on Morehead get taken back by the lender, sold at a steep enough discount to a retail developer, and turned into a large scale mixed use center with a focus on retail. Outside of a scenario like that, I don't see it happening in my generation.




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