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[Martinman]

krazeeboi, on Jan 4 2007, 01:30 AM, said:

I think the Census needs to report two different sets of figures for Georgia: metro Atlanta, and the rest of the state.

They will.  Once they've completed the 2006 estimates for counties, metro populations can be calculated.

[krazeeboi]

I mean they need to report them as "metro Atlanta" and "the rest of Georgia."

[teshadoh]

Out of curiosity - I relooked at my first post which were the 2006 most popolous GA cities & included the new 3 cities.

1 Atlanta city 419,122
2 Augusta-Richmond County 191,326
3 Columbus city 182,850
4 Savannah city 129,808
5 Athens-Clarke County 102,744
6 Macon city 94,990
7 Roswell city 85,044
(8) Sandy Springs 85k
-9 Albany city 76,253
(10) Johns Creek 65k
-11 Marietta city 60,547
-12 Warner Robins city 56,305

Milton 20k

Of course, Warner Robins may very well be back in the top 10 with their aggressive annexing, but it looks like for likely over a century - Marietta is out of the top 10 for good.  Albany will probably slip as well, as there is very little hope for that city to gain in population, unless they annex into Lee County (which liklihood is as likely as Atlanta annexing Cobb County).

[GAOnMyMind]

Might wish to remove the .htaccess. It's not needed if content is shared (or a different redirect to prevent hot linking needs to be employed), as it hurts thread participation.

[DaltonGA]

The census bureau has consistently underestimated the growth in metro Atlanta since the late-70's. I suspect when the 2010 census results are tabulated, Fulton and DeKalb in particular and Cobb will have a considerably greater population than the census estimates project beyond 2006. Doughtery, Muscogee and Richmond are also estimated to be declining and I think by 2010 Muscogee and Richmond both will surprise census demographers by posting increases, very small for Richmond and the largest gain for Muscogee since the 1960 census. I hope Doughtery will regain some of its losses, as recent as the early-80's, Albany was the fastest growing Georgia metro outside of Atlanta and Lee county has continued to grow at a rapid clip. Bibb has been a consistent slow gainer since 1960, and the 2006 estimates continue that pattern. The Macon region's population gains will continue to be fueled by Houston county and Warner Robins with Jones and Monroe posting solid gains.

Another area the census has consistently underestimated is the counties bordering Alabama, which include Columbus-Muscogee. Carroll County and Harris County have been the only two the Census Bureau has estimated to be growing rapidly while Walker, Chattatooga, Dade, Floyd, Polk, Haralson, Heard, Troup and Muscogee has long been underestimated when compared to final census figures. Most of these won't be big gainers, but they will have added more than the bureau estimates. Dade, Haralson and Heard may even turn out to be solid growth. Kia will most certainly benefit Troup, Harris and Heard by 2010. Polk and Floyd are going to see more Atlanta spillover, increasing their growth rates. Rockmart in eastern Polk may well be suburban in the next decade. Walker is eventually going to pick up more growth as Catoosa County builds up. The Chicamauga bypass and 4 laning 27 along will GA 2 access to GA 193 and Flintstone/Chattanooga Valley will soon pick up steam and boom if Tennessee completes the proposed replacement of TN 17 which becomes GA 193 and the St. Elmo area of Chattanooga gentrifies.

Edited by DaltonGA, 20 February 2007 - 07:54 PM.

[Martinman]

The AJC has an interactive showing population 2006 Census estimates for all of GA's counties.  

Georgia's 2006 Population by county

[Pillsbury]

Richmond County added people????  I can't believe it.  I just about fell out of my chair!!1

[Topher1]

Yay.  The 2006 county estimates are out!  New census releases are like Christmas to me.  Here's my quick calculations of the 2nd tier metros growth.  As always, feel free to correct any inaccuracies, as these calculations were done pretty quickly...

2006 Census Estimates:
Augusta MSA:					  523,249
Columbus MSA:					288,847
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA		437,222
Macon MSA:					  229,326
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 381,641
Savannah MSA					320,043
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	  394,066

2005-2006 Numeric Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 5,394
Columbus MSA:					+ 6,373
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 8,942
Macon MSA:					  + 1,357
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 3,615
Savannah MSA					+ 6,587
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 8,800

2005-2006 Percent Change:
Augusta MSA:					 + 1.04%
Columbus MSA:					+ 2.26%
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 2.09%
Macon MSA:					   + 0.59%
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	  + 0.96%
Savannah MSA					 + 2.10%
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	  + 2.28%

2000-2006 Numeric Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 23,566
Columbus MSA:					+ 7,079
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 16,317
Macon MSA:					  + 6,958
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 24,840
Savannah MSA					+ 27,043
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 29,152

2000-2006 Percent Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 4.71%
Columbus MSA:					+ 2.51%
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 3.88%
Macon MSA:					  + 3.13%
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 6.96%
Savannah MSA					+ 9.23%
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 11.00%

Edited by Topher1, 22 March 2007 - 06:39 PM.

[Savboy08]

Topher1, on Mar 22 2007, 07:38 PM, said:

Yay.  The 2006 county estimates are out!  New census releases are like Christmas to me.  Here's my quick calculations of the 2nd tier metros growth.  As always, feel free to correct any inaccuracies, as these calculations were done pretty quickly...

2006 Census Estimates:
Augusta MSA:					  523,249
Columbus MSA:					288,847
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA		437,222
Macon MSA:					  229,326
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 381,641
Savannah MSA					320,043
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	  394,066

2005-2006 Numeric Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 5,394
Columbus MSA:					+ 6,373
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 8,942
Macon MSA:					  + 1,357
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 3,615
Savannah MSA					+ 6,587
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 8,800

2005-2006 Percent Change:
Augusta MSA:					 + 1.04%
Columbus MSA:					+ 2.26%
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 2.09%
Macon MSA:					   + 0.59%
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	  + 0.96%
Savannah MSA					 + 2.10%
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	  + 2.28%

2000-2006 Numeric Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 23,566
Columbus MSA:					+ 7,079
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 16,317
Macon MSA:					  + 6,958
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 24,840
Savannah MSA					+ 27,043
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 29,152

2000-2006 Percent Change:
Augusta MSA:					  + 4.71%
Columbus MSA:					+ 2.51%
Columbus/Aub-Ope/Tusk CSA	   + 3.88%
Macon MSA:					  + 3.13%
Macon/Warner Rob./Ft. Val. CSA	 + 6.96%
Savannah MSA					+ 9.23%
Savannah/Hines-Ft. Stew. CSA	 + 11.00%

Why does it seem that my area(Savannah) is growing faster.  At least faster than I would expect.  It feels slow.  I would also bet that the city limits lost population while metro and CSA grew.  I stay in the city, maybe that's why I rarely notice growth(except for out in the GeorgeTown area).

[Spartan]

Tybee, perhaps? I know that there is a lot of growth in the suburban areas like Pooler...

[Spartan]

I think the contrast between Albany's Dougherty vs Lee is pretty interesting. Albany is where the action is in terms of the city, yet the population has acutally declined whereas Lee is increasing rapidly.

[Topher1]

Regarding Savannah... every county in that metro is doing great, Chatham included...  Surprisingly, tiny little Effingham has added more than 10000 residents since 2000...  Thats a pretty serious growth rate for a small county...  Chatham added almost 9000 in that time...

[socaguy]

I see Savannahs growth everytime I pass through the burbs on the way to Florida or the Golden Isles.  Its evident all along the smaller towns near 95.

Anyone know exactly what counties are included in Augustas MSA?  My figures came out a little different than the ones shown but I was guessing on the counties.  Is Mcormick county SC in the MSA?  If not it should be since just about everyone there works in Augusta.

[Topher1]

McCormick is not included (yet at least)...  Also surprised that Barnwell hasn't ever been added to the CSA...  I mean the region's largest employer is about 1/3 in Barnwell county...

The counties are Richmond, Columbia, McDuffie, Burke, Aiken, and Edgefield.

You can get definitions for all MSA's, CSA's and Micro's at this link:

http://www.census.go...s/metrodef.html

Just check out the tables under "Definition Files"

Edited by Topher1, 25 March 2007 - 08:35 AM.

[Unifour]

I have recently seen the updated census estimates for states and counties and what a shock they were. Georgia's massive growth is almost unbelievable. Georgia is adding a million residents every 5 years. Between 1990 and 2000, it grew from 6.4 million to 8.1 million, and has now grown to 9.3 million. It's incredible, and by 2010, the state could show to have added 2 million or more people. I think it is safe to say you will have then a state of 10 million or more. Atlanta's growth continues to boggle the mind. Few cities in world history have grown as fast as Atlanta has been growing since 1950. But even this is too long a window. Atlanta's growth has reached explosive proportions only since about 1970. The metro area has grown by more than 25% each decade since then-28% in the 70's, 33% in the 80's, and nearly 40% in the 90's. Since 2000, it has grown by more than 15% already, and these estimates are usually too low, as Atlanta almost always shows more people than they estimated. According to the AJC, the metro took 122 years to grow to a million from it's founding. It then took only 21 years to add another million to arrive at 2 million and 13 years to add another million to get to 3 million. It took only 7 years to add another million to get to 4 million and only 6 years to get to 5 million. Metro Atlanta now holds more than 5,100,000 people, and the CSA holds almost 5,500,000. It is amazing, and I think it is obvious that you will have a metropolis of 6,500,000 or near it by next census.

Edited by Unifour, 26 March 2007 - 03:17 PM.

[Spartan]

Whats interesting to me is that I keep hearing that Atlanta's growth is going to be "slowing down" but the numbers don't seem to reflect that at all.

[socaguy]

Yeah,  I remember them saying that right after the Olympics in 96', and Atlantas added, what 2 million people since then?

[Unifour]

Many predict that Georgia and Atlanta won't be able to grow much more. They cite all kinds of studies, statistics, etc. to show how it will all come crashing down. It's all mostly nonsense. Water is usually held up as what will end Atlanta's long running high growth. Atlanta is one of the wetter metros in the U.S. It's rainfall far exceeds that of fast growing western cities. Atlanta has the springs, groundwater, and the Chattahooche and it's many creeks and tributaries to supply it. If it comes down to it, a desalination plant at the coast could be used which would pipe the water to Atlanta. There will be new technology by the time this is an issue. Most experts predict the area will grow to 9 million even with current water supply, notwithstanding new technology or conservation practices. Air pollution is also held up as a fear, without merit. Contrary to environmentalist claims, Atlanta's air is getting cleaner, not worse-it's out of compliance days have fallen over 2 decades. From here on out it is a very short leap to a city of 10 million. They say Rome wasn't built in a day, but Atlanta sure is trying-Rome is many centuries older than Atlanta, but Atlanta is almost twice as big as Rome already.

Edited by Unifour, 28 March 2007 - 07:46 PM.

[Spartan]

They are currently trying to arrange it so they can pump water from Lake Hartwell.

[krazeeboi]

The Atlanta metro region is also trying to work something out with SC concerning obtaining water from the Savannah River in the future.