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#21 emerging.me

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:38 AM

View PostSpartan, on Oct 4 2005, 01:35 AM, said:

It seems to me that the Rocky Branch greenway is a critical part ot having those mills being redeveloped. It would be a serious slap in the face to those developers and to Olympia in general. I think this one will be passed.


I really, really hope so. The city council is ALL for it, I know. But Richland One and Richland County have to get on the same page as well. Keep hope alive. :)

 

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 07:42 PM

The vote on the Olympia TIF is going down tomorrow night. If you live in Richland County, and you care about the various Olympia community improvement projects, I would encourage you to call your councilperson and ask them to support it. It's not a given by any stretch. My gut tells me that it may pass with some cuts, but I'm not even counting on that. I'm really disappointed by what I've seen coming out of the county council this past week -- councilmembers playing politics because their district isn't yet getting the same sort of assistance and others that just seem so ignornant about something that's been talked about for 5-10 years. Well, I can guarantee them that if this doesn't happen then it will short circuit the whole revitalization process for these close-in neighborhoods and their districts may never see anything.  Olympia will just keep slowly churning towards renewal -- maybe you'll see a slight improvement in 10 years. The people saying that Olympia will "take care of itself" don't realize that the new developments that have begun to emerge there have only done so because these improvements have been virtually promised for almost a decade. If this doesn't pass, everything shifts back down into low gear.  If it passes, then Olympia booms quickly and the trend spreads to parts of town like Rosewood and North Main.

Personally, I have a project gestating that I'd like to do in Olympia, but if this doesn't happen then it's potentially back to the drawing board. With the way some of the council members are behaving, I'm tempted to start looking in West Columbia/Cayce and spend my money in Lexington County. Really...I'm actually kind of tempted just to pull up stakes and get the hell out of Columbia. I was born and raised here and love this place, but it's projects like this that give me hope that it can be something better than it is. And if the local government can't follow through on commitments they've made to the community that will ensure progress, then I'd just as soon forget my roots and live in some place like Raleigh or Savannah.

I know all of downtown Columbia's renewal doesn't hang on what happens with Olympia, but it is an important part of the puzzle.

Almost a decade ago, Olympia was set to be first real effort to see if local government could leverage resources to bring about positive changes in redeveloping close-in neighborhoods. Will they keep their commitment? We'll see how it goes. The vote is at 7:00PM at 2020 Hampton.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 10:49 AM

View Postemerging.me, on Oct 17 2005, 07:42 PM, said:

The vote on the Olympia TIF is going down tomorrow night. If you live in Richland County, and you care about the various Olympia community improvement projects, I would encourage you to call your councilperson and ask them to support it. It's not a given by any stretch. My gut tells me that it may pass with some cuts, but I'm not even counting on that. I'm really disappointed by what I've seen coming out of the county council this past week -- councilmembers playing politics because their district isn't yet getting the same sort of assistance and others that just seem so ignornant about something that's been talked about for 5-10 years. Well, I can guarantee them that if this doesn't happen then it will short circuit the whole revitalization process for these close-in neighborhoods and their districts may never see anything.  Olympia will just keep slowly churning towards renewal -- maybe you'll see a slight improvement in 10 years. The people saying that Olympia will "take care of itself" don't realize that the new developments that have begun to emerge there have only done so because these improvements have been virtually promised for almost a decade. If this doesn't pass, everything shifts back down into low gear.  If it passes, then Olympia booms quickly and the trend spreads to parts of town like Rosewood and North Main.

Personally, I have a project gestating that I'd like to do in Olympia, but if this doesn't happen then it's potentially back to the drawing board. With the way some of the council members are behaving, I'm tempted to start looking in West Columbia/Cayce and spend my money in Lexington County. Really...I'm actually kind of tempted just to pull up stakes and get the hell out of Columbia. I was born and raised here and love this place, but it's projects like this that give me hope that it can be something better than it is. And if the local government can't follow through on commitments they've made to the community that will ensure progress, then I'd just as soon forget my roots and live in some place like Raleigh or Savannah.

I know all of downtown Columbia's renewal doesn't hang on what happens with Olympia, but it is an important part of the puzzle.

Almost a decade ago, Olympia was set to be first real effort to see if local government could leverage resources to bring about positive changes in redeveloping close-in neighborhoods. Will they keep their commitment? We'll see how it goes. The vote is at 7:00PM at 2020 Hampton.

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That is a very articulate (and accurate) post emerging.me.  I can relate to your frustrations.  I was Neighborhood President of Elmwood Park a decade ago, and often got miffed at the pettiness, whats-in-it-for-me, and general cluelessness of certain city and county officials/staff.  Now that I live in a different city, I see even more clearly how small their mindset can be.  Although, no city or region is free of such things.

If the Vista TIF hadn't been enacted, it would still be a run-down warehouse district.   The Vista TIF only has a few more years to go I believe.  When that TIF expires, there will be a flood of new revenue for the city, county and Richland 1 to more than make up for the 'burden' of increasing development in the Olympia area. The obvious success of the Vista TIF SHOULD be plenty of evidence of what a difference it can make.  Yet somehow, the county councilmen seem oblivious to this.  

The Olympia TIF has been in the works for years, it should go forward.  It is an investment in yourself that will reap plenty of dividends.  EauClaire, for one has already received tens of millions of dollars in federal, state and local funds for revitialization.  It has worked too.  It is selfish for them to insist on a TIF too.

Good luck, and remember, if Columbia isn't progressive enough for you, there are plenty of other places to live.

Edited by vicupstate, 18 October 2005 - 10:50 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2005 - 12:10 PM

If you think Columbia isn't progressive enough, I can think of other cities worse off, that's for sure.

I wonder what will be done after all of the hype and hoopla concerning the fragmentation of city council. It seems that Columbia doesn't realize its potential to get a leg up on its regional peer cities and reinvent itself into something bigger and better. The leaders of the city need to get it together.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 12:55 PM

View Postkrazeeboi, on Oct 18 2005, 02:10 PM, said:

If you think Columbia isn't progressive enough, I can think of other cities worse off, that's for sure.

I wonder what will be done after all of the hype and hoopla concerning the fragmentation of city council. It seems that Columbia doesn't realize its potential to get a leg up on its regional peer cities and reinvent itself into something bigger and better. The leaders of the city need to get it together.


Yeah... I can tell you this much... if the Olympia TIF doesn't go through, I think we're screwed. I can't see Bernice and Kit, after getting stiffed by these other councilmembers, allowing anything that would benefit them to get through!

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:50 PM

It passed first reading 6-5. There is real opposition to creating another TIF from councilmembers who were not around when the initial work on the Olympia revitalization began. They do not understand or feel obligated to abide by the commitments council have made over the years.


In favor were:

Doris Corley
Kit Smith
Greg Pearce, Jr.
Mike Montgomery
Bernice Scott
Tony Mizzell

Opposing were:

Joe McEachern
Paul Livingston
Val Hutchinson
Joyce Dickerson
Damon Jeter

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:30 AM

I hate the fact that it passed by such a narrow margin, but glad that it did pass. Also, moving the railroad tracks on Assembly near Olympia will do nothing but help.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:31 AM

Glad to know that this finally passed :) Great news for Olympia

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:47 AM

Well, this is just the first reading. It sounds like Mike Montgomery has problems with the idea and will ultimately vote against it. Supporters need to get Montgomery and Hutchinson or we're going to be left with a tricky scenario where funding for the remaining individual improvements will have to be pieced together by the county, city and school board.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 07:52 PM

I hope it ends up passing. Why would they vote against it?

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:28 PM

"Because my neighborhood doesn't have a TIF."

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:51 PM

Another thing that opponents are also saying is that there needs to be a master plan in place and that we can't just keep randomly using TIFs as quick fixes for blighted urban neighborhoods -- they say that's not what they're meant to do. I agree with that, actually... but the thing is... this commitment was made to the Olympia community nearly a decade ago, long before the talk of a master plan or anything like that. To snatch this thing away now is a huge slap in the face to residents that have believed on it and groups that have worked so hard for it, not to mention developer Ron Kaplan who sunk millions into those mills based on the commitments made by local government.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 09:44 PM

More goings on about the TIF in Olympia.

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 06:57 PM

View Postkrazeeboi, on Oct 19 2005, 08:28 PM, said:

"Because my neighborhood doesn't have a TIF."

Well Krazee, we'd rather have you in Columbia, anyway. When you move here you can move to Olympia and....shazam!...you'll live in a TIF!

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 08:20 PM

LOL! Well I considered trying to get into USC for graduate school, but decided it would be easier to go back to Winthrop. Before that, I applied for admission to the school of public health, but didn't get in. :( But don't worry, I'll get down there sooner or later, I promise. :thumbsup:

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 08:53 PM

A small bit of Olympia development news -- you heard it here first. :)

A request to rezone a 2 1/2 acre parcel along the newly-opened Mill Village Riverlink, the former Commodity Engineering site, will go before the City of Columbia Planning Commission on Monday afternoon. Community leaders balked at developer Charles Small's initial plans for the site -- there may have been some concern that the initially planned units were student-oriented.  He now plans to build a number of single-family townhomes on the site, which fronts Lincoln Street and is bounded by Whaley St., Heyward St. and the CSX rail line. Noisy living? I think so. But a reroute of that portion of the railway is planned.

I'm including an image showing the parcel in question shaded in red...

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 10:45 PM

Great news, EM!

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 10:54 PM

Cool beans. ;)

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:43 PM

Seems like the TIF proposal is on hold for now.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:55 PM

Yeah, I just found this out myself. I'd say if it's "on hold"... and it has to be done by Jan. 1, that it's a safe bet it won't happen at this point. But... given the "overlooked" new law it might not have made a difference anyway. Although... I don't know if Kaplan -- the mills developer -- would actually apply for that credit. Ironically, he is the one (other than the area's residents that have been fighting for this for years) that they promised all those improvements to.




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