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#1 tombarnes

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:56 PM

Any news on the renovation of the John Marshall into a condominium building?  It is not being run properly as a hotel, and I'd heard it was to be converted/restored into a high-end condo.

 

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:03 PM

you're absolutely correct! Work has already begun on converting the building into upscale condos. The rooftop sign will be fully restored and a 6-story addition will be built at the back of the building near where the receiving used to be. No official word on completion date yet. There will be retail on the first level. It is a $37 million project.

here's the work that will be done:
EXTERIOR

Construction of a new 6-story building near the loading area
Restoration of of the rooftop sign and 5th Street marquee
Repairing/replacing limestone panels and bricks
Repairing of terra cotta details and ornamental iron works
New roof
Exterior painting of windows and trim
INTERIOR

Maintenance of the existing windows and doors
Restoration of the original lobby
Preservation and restoration of the formal ballrooms, balconies, stairs, and stages
Restoration of the original plaster ceilings and walls.

what brings your interest in the John Marshall Residence, as it will be called when completed?

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:11 PM

I am somewhat obsessed with the restoration/renovation of older hotels.  I also stayed there a couple of years ago and was depressed about its general condition.  The lobby really needs to have all of that ugly brown carpet stripped away....I walked through most of the building.  Many of the floors are a 1970's time capsule....mirrored ceilings, carpeted walls etc...I hope they can recover the original lobby chandeliers which were sold off a few years ago.  I think some of the old fixtures were bought by Nick's Seafood Pavilion in Yorktown.  Now that that has closed, one wonders what happened to the chandeliers?

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:18 PM

I believe the plan is to restore it to its early grandeur as closely as possible. At least for the lobby and ball rooms that is. My favorite part of the project is the rooftop sign being restored. If you're thing is old hotels, you should research the Murphy Hotel and Richmond Hotel that are currently owned by the State of Virginia. They are btween broad st, franklin, 8th and 9th. Currently used as state office space, they were almost torn down by the state. Now plans call for either the state restoring them and using them or selling them for adaptive reuse.

Next time you're in Richmond, check out the Jefferson Hotel. It's our 5-star, 5-diamond hotel. The lobby is absolutely amazing.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:31 PM

I have also stayed at the Jefferson.  It's magnificent indeed.  Glad to hear that the Hotels Richmond and Murphy may be out of harm's way.

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 09:26 AM

tombarnes, on Aug 10 2005, 11:31 PM, said:

I have also stayed at the Jefferson.  It's magnificent indeed.  Glad to hear that the Hotels Richmond and Murphy may be out of harm's way.

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There is hope for the Richmond and Murphys Hotels (on the block bounded by Broad/Grace/8th/9th), though it's likely that the Richmond will be retained and reconfigured by the State.  Murphy's may find a private owner.

There has been talk, tho never publicized, that a cinema complex was discussed for the convention (6th & Franklin) area of the John Marshall, but now that Bow Tie properties plans a multiplex at 3rd and Main, those plans will probably go into the dust bin of time. :unsure:

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 11:11 AM

you know I did hear that the developer doing this project has no experience in doing historic building adaptive re-use..... hopefully the people actually doing the work do :)

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 12:47 PM

I am distressed to learn that the chain link construction boundary fences have been removed.

Is the project in deep trouble?

I bet I know someone who could give the scoop!  The barbers, who used to be in the building, temporarily moved across Franklin.  They know all the dirt.  Somebody check 'em out! :shades:

Edited by burt, 15 December 2005 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2005 - 12:54 PM

[quote name='burt' date='Dec 15 2005, 01:47 PM' post='273396']
I am distressed to learn that the chain link construction boundary fences have been removed.

It the project in deep trouble?

The John Marshall?  If Gil Granger still owns it, you are right.  He hasn't got the experience, money or taste to get the job done correctly.  The building is far too valuable to be in the hands of a rookie.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 01:47 PM

No, Granger sold it to the new developer whose name escapes me.  Highly respected architects were engaged, but no one seems to know the hotel's status at this time.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 03:10 PM

I'm nervous.

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:02 PM

Over on RCW, jc said that he was in the area this morning and Hourigan was removing its construction office trailer from the site.  When asked, the Hourigan representative said they would be back in January, or June, or maybe in 2008.

That doesn't sound very hopeful.

Maybe Mr. Jemal will come to the John Marshall's rescue.

Edited by burt, 17 December 2005 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:05 PM

That is terrible news.  I hope something will happen soon, as the building will deteriorate just sitting there.  I hope they will at least do maintenance work.

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 05:53 PM

Get a developer with some real capital in there to get the freakin job done!

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:39 AM

WHEW! The project is back on track. The new developer actually purchased the old developer's development company. Work should begin in February... total cost of the project is around $45 million.

I'll post an article later

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:32 AM

Great news!  I look forward to seeing the article.

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 12:09 PM

here we go:

John Marshall Residence Back on Track

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John Camper, a real estate developer from Virginia Beach, says he purchased the company that owns the hotel in mid-November. Obtaining the financing for $45 million in renovations, however, is going slower than expected. He plans to convert the old hotel, built in 1929, into apartments with a mix of retail tenants on the first few floors.....

.........Camper says he plans to reopen the ballroom, renovate the old hotel rooms into 175 upscale apartments and add 30,000 square feet of retail space. Plans call for bringing back the John Marshall barber shop and reopening with an Italian restaurant, a martini bar and a high-end delicatessen and grocery store next year.

renovations should hopefully start up in February.

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 12:27 PM

I hope they will restore the lobby and the public rooms.  The miles and miles of chocolate brown carpeting everywhere were depressing.

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 12:31 PM

I'm sure they'll rid it of that horrible 70's styling.

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 11:46 AM

View Postwrldcoupe4, on Dec 21 2005, 01:09 PM, said:

here we go:

John Marshall Residence Back on Track

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renovations should hopefully start up in February.

I don't suppose there's been any breaking news on this story, has there?
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