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[Aporkalypse]

RemusCal, on Oct 7 2005, 12:11 AM, said:

That is great about Parisian.  At least it is something different from Dillards.  But I do disagree with you Aporkalypse on that NWA or Little Rock could support these types of stores.  I definitely think NWA could support a Nordstrom and even Neiman Marcus.  That majority of the vendors and walmart people can afford these type of goods.  I think even Little Rock could support a Nordstrom.  Look at Tulsa.  They have a Saks in their area.  I truly believe NWA has as much or more money than Tulsa in the metro area.  I mean, I don't really care to shop at Neiman Marcus, but it would really help out our reputation as being a nice place just by having stores like those.

There isn't a Nordstrom's in a metro of less than 1 million.  In Texas, only the DFW metro, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio have them.  In Missouri only St Louis does.  Louisiana, Tennessee, and Memphis don't ahve one.  There's a list of cities where new ones are opening in 2005, 2006. 2007, and 2008 and the cities on the list all have metros greater than a million.  I'm not saying it wouldn't work in AR but I think we're SOL.

[mcheiss]

Aporkalypse, on Oct 6 2005, 11:48 PM, said:

Little Rock and NWA are getting a Parisian which is a smaller modified Saks.

As for Nordstrom's, Saks, Lord and Taylot,  and the like NWA or Little Rock simply won't support that sort of store.  Neither area really has the type of shopping center you see these stores in as well.  Park Plaza is upscale but just too small.

Have you taken a look at the Pinnacle Promenade being built. I would definately say that a Nordstroms or a lord and Taylor would fit very well into this upscale shopping area. But, I would like to see the population be a little bit higher. I do think it would be a hit since we really only have Dillards up here, but I do agree with you that Nordstrom  doesn't go in metro's less than 1 Million, therefore the odds of one coming here are slim.

Edited by mcheiss, 07 October 2005 - 12:50 PM.

[Aporkalypse]

mcheiss, on Oct 7 2005, 01:49 PM, said:

Have you taken a look at the Pinnacle Promenade being built. I would definately say that a Nordstroms or a lord and Taylor would fit very well into this upscale shopping area. But, I would like to see the population be a little bit higher. I do think it would be a hit since we really only have Dillards up here, but I do agree with you that Nordstrom  doesn't go in metro's less than 1 Million, therefore the odds of one coming here are slim.

Compared to the three malls with Nordstrom's in the DFW area, that's a pretty small development. Stonebriar and North Park in Dallas kind of dwarf that.  The other places I recognized are the same.  Again, though, I think it's the area population that's the problem, though.

Odd that on their list, going through 2008, there's not one planned in KC.  The Plaza in KC is exactly the type of development they usually go for.

I went to a Nordstrom's Rack (outlet) at Sawgrass Mills in Ft Lauderdale once.  They are very reasonable, definitely worth trying if you find one.

[mcheiss]

Aporkalypse, on Oct 7 2005, 03:24 PM, said:

Compared to the three malls with Nordstrom's in the DFW area, that's a pretty small development. Stonebriar and North Park in Dallas kind of dwarf that.  The other places I recognized are the same.  Again, though, I think it's the area population that's the problem, though.

Odd that on their list, going through 2008, there's not one planned in KC.  The Plaza in KC is exactly the type of development they usually go for.

I went to a Nordstrom's Rack (outlet) at Sawgrass Mills in Ft Lauderdale once.  They are very reasonable, definitely worth trying if you find one.

I think there's a Nordstrom in Overland Park, near Kansas City. Although, one in the plaza would be awesome.

Edited by mcheiss, 07 October 2005 - 09:35 PM.

[Aporkalypse]

mcheiss, on Oct 7 2005, 10:34 PM, said:

I think there's a Nordstrom in Overland Park, near Kansas City. Although, one in the plaza would be awesome.

You're right, I should've looked at Kansas as well as OP or Lenexa would be just as likely as KC itself to have something like that.

The Plaza is the ultimate retail development.  I've been across the country and never seen a shopping area of its caliber and design.

[mcheiss]

Aporkalypse, on Oct 7 2005, 11:06 PM, said:

You're right, I should've looked at Kansas as well as OP or Lenexa would be just as likely as KC itself to have something like that.

The Plaza is the ultimate retail development.  I've been across the country and never seen a shopping area of its caliber and design.

It's just about my favorite retail development in that immediate area.

Edited by mcheiss, 12 October 2005 - 12:55 PM.

[Mith242]

Well speaking from someone who has spend pretty much all of their life in Arkansas, I can't say I know much about these other department stores.  I'm pretty much only familiar with Dillard's.  Can anyone makes any comparisons with some of these others like Nordstrom's, even if we don't much of a chance of getting some of these places.

[mcheiss]

I drove Pleasant Grove Road yesterday and noticed that the Tuscany Square Development right across the Wal-Mart Supercenter, was going up pretty big. Looks pretty nice and you can see they have a Starbucks sign out there.

Yet next to the development is an A-Z Storage space area. It really is an eyesore for that whole area that is experiencing phenominal growth. I hope a developer buys that land and puts something in there that is worthy of that land.

Also, construction on Pleasant Crossing has started. All the ground work is wrapping up, and they have a crane over there which means that wall will be going up soon.

Edited by mcheiss, 12 October 2005 - 01:01 PM.

[Mith242]

mcheiss, on Oct 12 2005, 02:00 PM, said:

I drove Pleasant Grove Road yesterday and noticed that the Tuscany Square Development right across the Wal-Mart Supercenter, was going up pretty big. Looks pretty nice and you can see they have a Starbucks sign out there.

Yet next to the development is an A-Z Storage space area. It really is an eyesore for that whole area that is experiencing phenominal growth. I hope a developer buys that land and puts something in there that is worthy of that land.

Also, construction on Pleasant Crossing has started. All the ground work is wrapping up, and they have a crane over there which means that wall will be going up soon.

It is sorta odd that they would put that there, but unfortunately you still see some odd things put right next to nice developments.

[mcheiss]

Mith242, on Oct 12 2005, 02:58 PM, said:

It is sorta odd that they would put that there, but unfortunately you still see some odd things put right next to nice developments.

That A-Z storage place has been there for years. But I think the owners will wise up and realize there sitting on a gold mine.

[Mith242]

mcheiss, on Oct 12 2005, 03:00 PM, said:

That A-Z storage place has been there for years. But I think the owners will wise up and realize there sitting on a gold mine.

Okay I guess I misunderstood you.  I guess for some reason I thought the storage place was also new.  But yes I'm sure they will eventually sell out when the real estate goes up enough.  There's been a few places like that here in Fayetteville also.  Someone finally bought the trailer park by Washington Regional.  It just seemed odd to see a trailer park in an area of the city like that.  I guess it was just a relic of an smaller Fayetteville.  Guess they held out quite a while and got a pretty good price for the land.

[mcheiss]

Mith242, on Oct 12 2005, 03:17 PM, said:

Okay I guess I misunderstood you.  I guess for some reason I thought the storage place was also new.  But yes I'm sure they will eventually sell out when the real estate goes up enough.  There's been a few places like that here in Fayetteville also.  Someone finally bought the trailer park by Washington Regional.  It just seemed odd to see a trailer park in an area of the city like that.  I guess it was just a relic of an smaller Fayetteville.  Guess they held out quite a while and got a pretty good price for the land.

That's probably what they will do with this land up here.

[Mith242]

mcheiss, on Oct 12 2005, 03:19 PM, said:

That's probably what they will do with this land up here.

Guess it's more a matter of when.  Sell out quickly or sit around and wait for the real estate to keep going up.

[RemusCal]

Mith242, on Oct 12 2005, 02:29 PM, said:

Guess it's more a matter of when.  Sell out quickly or sit around and wait for the real estate to keep going up.

If I heard correctly in the paper, I believe this is going to be Center Point at Pleasant Grove, a retail center.  I remember them saying something about tearing the storage place down.  A Walgreens and other restaurants and shops are suppose to compose the retail center.

[Mith242]

RemusCal, on Oct 12 2005, 04:10 PM, said:

If I heard correctly in the paper, I believe this is going to be Center Point at Pleasant Grove, a retail center.  I remember them saying something about tearing the storage place down.  A Walgreens and other restaurants and shops are suppose to compose the retail center.

See Matt you didn't have to wait too long after all.  

[mcheiss]

Mith242, on Oct 12 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

See Matt you didn't have to wait too long after all.  

Nice Job RemusCal, you beat me in my own territory. I do remember now that they are going to tear down the A to Z structure for "Centre Pointe".

I remember they had a sign up for that development about 3 months ago. But when I went by there a few days ago, it wasn't up.

It was going to be a $300 Million Dollar Development, but the developers changed their minds, and now it's going to be around $100 Million for a Power Center that is supposed to have a Walgreens. Some rumors about that development are that Best Buy has been looking into that land. I don't believe it, but I do believe that a Bestbuy would be supported up here in Benton County. Besides Wal-Mart and Radioshack, there's not one major electronics store around here in Benton County.

Edited by mcheiss, 13 October 2005 - 12:39 PM.

[Mith242]

mcheiss, on Oct 13 2005, 01:38 PM, said:

Nice Job RemusCal, you beat me in my own territory. I do remember now that they are going to tear down the A to Z structure for "Centre Pointe".

I remember they had a sign up for that development about 3 months ago. But when I went by there a few days ago, it wasn't up.

It was going to be a $300 Million Dollar Development, but the developers changed their minds, and now it's going to be around $100 Million for a Power Center that is supposed to have a Walgreens. Some rumors about that development are that Best Buy has been looking into that land. I don't believe it, but I do believe that a Bestbuy would be supported up here in Benton County. Besides Wal-Mart and Radioshack, there's not one major electronics store around here in Benton County.

Yeah I imagine it's just a matter of time before a Best Buy of Circuit City move in.  We might eventually start getting two of most stores in the area.  One for Benton County and one for Washington County.  Although since most of the growth is going on in Benton County I do think that there will be more up there that won't be found down here in Washington County.

[mcheiss]

Mith242, on Oct 13 2005, 03:38 PM, said:

Yeah I imagine it's just a matter of time before a Best Buy of Circuit City move in.  We might eventually start getting two of most stores in the area.  One for Benton County and one for Washington County.  Although since most of the growth is going on in Benton County I do think that there will be more up there that won't be found down here in Washington County.

Hopefully. It's about time that retail started to make it's way into Benton County. Don't get me wrong about Washington County, I love going to Fayetteville to shop and eat, but it would be a lot more convinant to shop in Benton County.

Do you know of any major stores that you mentioned making two locations in the area?

All I have heard is Sams Club so far.

Or what could you see making another location in NW Arkansas?

[Mith242]

mcheiss, on Oct 13 2005, 03:55 PM, said:

Hopefully. It's about time that retail started to make it's way into Benton County. Don't get me wrong about Washington County, I love going to Fayetteville to shop and eat, but it would be a lot more convinant to shop in Benton County.

Do you know of any major stores that you mentioned making two locations in the area?

All I have heard is Sams Club so far.

Or what could you see making another location in NW Arkansas?

I guess the only other ones I can think of off hand would be places like Dillards and JC Penny's that will be built in the near future.  But I wouldn't worry about Benton County, I think it will have plenty.  It's just a matter of time.  I think in the near future many people from Washington County will have to go to Benton County for certain retail or restaurants.  A reversal of the recent trends.  I do look forward to all the growth in Benton County, but I'm the same way as you.  I hope Washington County isn't left behind and I have go to Benton County all the time to shop and eat.

[mcheiss]

We've heard talk of a Target coming in up here, not sure where it would go though.

I'm sure Fayetteville won't get left in the dust. I just couldn't see things being reversed in the future. I remember when if you wanted to go out to eat or go shopping, you had to drive to Fayetteville. Washington County will still pertain a lot of restaurants and retail that Benton County won't get.

Any news on Nelson's Crossing? I actually haven't heard much, not even a tenant or anchor.