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#441 Urbaner

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:39 AM

View PostTheAnk, on May 4 2009, 08:26 AM, said:

My opinion, the foreclosure wave has just as much to do with the exorbitant taxes than it does with a real estate bubble. I don't think its a coincidence that the ridiculous tax hike in places like Olneyville exactly coincided with the burst.


Much of what you're may be true, but Rhode Island is #10 on the list of highest taxed states. The only other state on the top 10 that has a higher foreclosure rate that Rhode Island is California. Property taxes probably have less to do with the local foreclosure problem than predatory loan practices by lenders on less affluent people in Olneyville.




http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxes.html



Tax Burden By State
If all other things are equal, a state with a lower burden is a more attractive place to retire than a state with a higher one.  To get a true sense of which state is less expensive, you need to look at state and local tax burdens.  Only then do the low tax states stand out.

It is estimated by the Tax Foundation that the nation as a whole will pay on average 9.7% of its income in state and local taxes in 2008, down from 9.9% in 2007 primarily because income grew faster than tax collections between 2007 and 2008.

New Jersey residents paid 11.8%, topping the charts.  New Yorkers were close behind, paying 11.7%, and Connecticut was third at 11.1%.  The top 10 were rounded out by Maryland (10.8%), Hawaii (10.6%), California (10.5%), Ohio (10.4%). Vermont (10.3%), Wisconsin (10.2%) and Rhode Island (10.2%).

Alaskans pay the least, 6.4 percent in 2008, but Nevada is close at 6.6 percent.  In four states the residents pay between 7 and 8 percent of their income in state and local taxes: Wyoming (7.0%), Florida (7.4%), New Hampshire (7.6%) and South Dakota (7.9%).  Four other states round out the bottom 10: Tennessee (8.3%), Texas (8.4%), Louisiana (8.4%) and Arizona (8.5%).



 

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:54 AM

Fry, the problem with your quote is that the earlier governments of RI have handed down bad policy (e.g. extremely burdensome union contracts) so that affecting change is going to be at best a slow process and in reality something akin to watching paint dry in the rain.

Voters are notoriously bad at taking the long view, therefore we have to rely on our politicians to do so.  This was supposed to be one of the advantages of a representative government.

I hope some of the changes and vision for the future help out.  Growth in emerging tech can only help.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 01:40 PM

View PostUrbaner, on May 4 2009, 12:39 PM, said:

Much of what you're may be true, but Rhode Island is #10 on the list of highest taxed states. The only other state on the top 10 that has a higher foreclosure rate that Rhode Island is California. Property taxes probably have less to do with the local foreclosure problem than predatory loan practices by lenders on less affluent people in Olneyville.

I should clarify; The STATE tax climate fuels our horrific economy.. The local tax rate fueled the "screw this I'm not paying 7k to the city in property taxes for potholes and drug dealer havens next door, peace out" foreclosure problem.. Sometimes my anti government rants get mixed together..

I agree completely with fry's comment, its well thought out.. The reason things are the way they are is because of the people who vote and live in this state.. There is a serious dearth of business minded economically intelligent people on all levels..

There are far too many liberals in this state.. AND YET, with things the way they are right now, people are STILL protesting added wellfare change for illegal immigrants, like we can even afford the social services we dole out now... Is now really the time to lobby for MORE SOCIAL SERVICES???

http://www.projo.com...25.3a17d9b.html

Are people that out of touch with reality?  Is it possible to be anti-social services and government waste without being called a racist?? We will see if this is possible..

It can't be this bad, can it? Oh wait, it is:

https://www.safelink...c/benefits.aspx

Wellfare Cell Phones.. I can honestly say now I have seen it all..  :angry:

So fry is right.. We got the government we deserved.. We got a Ponzi Scheme.. Like this: http://www.projo.com...16.38634c0.html

Only, Government Madoffs don't go to jail.. They get reelected in Rhode Island.. The bottom line is this.. Liberal ideals got us here.. You can blame Bush for the national, even if really was Clinton and the ridiculous "everyone deserves a home" non-laws that caused everything.. But there is nowhere to turn to but inward for the problems of Rhode Island and Providence..

Real reform is needed. Ideal changes have to happen.. We need less government, not the current system of Republican spending vs Democrat spending, which is the net equal.. Too much spending

#444 CtownMikey

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 09:50 PM

View PostTheAnk, on May 1 2009, 11:44 AM, said:

Normally, I would agree.. But then the Economist came out with this beauty:

http://www.economist...ory_id=13579343

This is comical.. But its true.. Wow, our state is so incredibly mismanaged.. Worst local and state government in the United States


lets all chip in, print thousands of copies of that article, and shower it onto the state house :)

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:11 AM

View PostTheAnk, on May 4 2009, 02:40 PM, said:

Only, Government Madoffs don't go to jail.. They get reelected in Rhode Island.. The bottom line is this.. Liberal ideals got us here.. You can blame Bush for the national, even if really was Clinton and the ridiculous "everyone deserves a home" non-laws that caused everything..

This is not what caused everything.  What caused everything was that the Treasury and the Bush admin wanted America to come out of 9/11 into economic growth and did not allow the natural recession in 2002 to happen.

What got us here is bad politics from both sides.  

As for RI, I agree in general and the fact is that RI's continued struggle is basically illustrating the dangers of Keynesian economic theory.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 12:24 PM

View Postbrick, on May 5 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

This is not what caused everything.  What caused everything was that the Treasury and the Bush admin wanted America to come out of 9/11 into economic growth and did not allow the natural recession in 2002 to happen.

What got us here is bad politics from both sides.  

As for RI, I agree in general and the fact is that RI's continued struggle is basically illustrating the dangers of Keynesian economic theory.

The problem with Keynsian is simple.. No one can turn off the spiget when times are good.. Its too easy to spend OPM for the government, so no one ever sheds expenditures in boom times.. So its benefits of boistering bad times inevitably turn into its down fall..

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 11:45 AM

Wall Street Journal on our big P and other city rebrandings. Is the Ben Jones in the illustration the Ben Jones I know? Still waiting for confirmation.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 02:00 AM

Vote For Providence!

Providence is one of ten new cities nominated by national magazine, Travel + Leisure, to join a distinguished few to be crowned “America’s Favorite Cities” in the publication’s annual survey.

Cast your vote

http://www.traveland...9/newcitiesvote

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 03:37 PM

View PostFrankie811, on May 15 2009, 01:00 AM, said:

Vote For Providence!

Providence is one of ten new cities nominated by national magazine, Travel + Leisure, to join a distinguished few to be crowned “America’s Favorite Cities” in the publication’s annual survey.

Cast your vote

http://www.traveland...9/newcitiesvote

Providence made the list, so be sure to check back and vote!  The polls open June 1st.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 04:37 AM

Travel & Leisure magazine’s 2009 America’s Favorite Cities survey confirms Providence’s position as one of the nation’s top arts and culture destinations. The survey ranks Providence 6th in the nation in its “food and dining” category, with high marks for ethnic food, cafes and coffee bars, farmers markets and “neighborhood joints”.

http://www.traveland...city/providence

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 06:36 PM

City named one of 25 best places to retire

Money magazine has declared Providence to be one of the 25 best places to retire in the United States.
http://www.pbn.com/stories/44725.html

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:02 AM

Hey, this isn't about the city! What gives! :)

Providence firm included on magazine's best places to work list

Providence-based Gilbane Inc. has been ranked 92nd on Fortune magazine's annual list of the "100 Best Companies to Work For" list.

http://bizblog.projo...nce-firm-3.html




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