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[Florida]

I believe this is one of those projects well see featured on 20/20 or Headline news as the new wave in American living. Smaller cities do the same thing, but only large cities like Atlanta get noticed... this one is nice.

[UrbanAtl]

So let's see; Doraville GM plant, Lakewood and Fort McPherson have all been mentioned as sites for new 'Atlantic Station' style redevelopments.  That's a whole lot of new development.  I hope that it all happens and that they all learn from AS and try to improve upon the model and not try to duplicate it.  Often when an idea is lifted from one place to the next it ends up watered down and less than stellar.  Like I have said, it's an amazing time to be living in Atlanta.

Edited by UrbanAtl, 23 November 2005 - 01:40 PM.

[teshadoh]

UrbanATL - I live across the railroad tracks from you near Cabbagetown at Memorial Dr beside other shotgun shacks.

But I don't think we can expect all of these to be AS type developments, nor should they all be.  The Doraville location should be home to major employers, Lakewood should include more residential, & Ft McPherson will include more civic uses.

[Andrea]

UrbanAtl, on Nov 20 2005, 11:19 AM, said:

Picture the corner of Lenox and P'Tree Roads.  Now imagine a gride of streets over the front parking lots creating Atlantic Station style footprints for future towers.  Ahhh to dream!

Really!  That would rock.  

I noticed the schematic for the Peachtree Corridor project  (now under construction) shows a larger green space and a reduced parking area in front of the mall.  Wonder if they'll actually do that?

While the redevelopment of areas such as Lakewood, Doraville and Fort Mac obviously doesn't need to duplicate Atlantic Station, it's great to see developers and communities at least having conversations that are based upon more livable concepts of urbanism.  I think AS will serve as a terrific catalyst for helping people visualize what can be done.

[ryanmckibben]

UrbanAtl, on Nov 20 2005, 11:19 AM, said:

I understand when people say "why would you go to AS when you're going to go to Lenox".  I have to say that yes I love Lenox but with these new 'lifestyle centers' poping up, Lenox is looking more and more like... well, a mall.  Yes that is a stupid statement but really malls just can't keep up with AS or Glenwood Park.  I have already decided, now that I have a choice I'm going to AS to buy mall clothes and not to any of the malls.  I've already spent $400 on dress shirts at three different shops there.  So to answer the why go to AS over Lenox; it's time to let Lenox Square die.
Maybe this is the end of the mall era in America???  I really think that Lenox needs to fill its parking lots in with towers, put parking under new towers, and make it a city center.  They could get more money out of their realastate if Lenox becomes an urban distric rather than a semi-urban mall.

Picture the corner of Lenox and P'Tree Roads.  Now imagine a gride of streets over the front parking lots creating Atlantic Station style footprints for future towers.  Ahhh to dream!

Quite a few prognosticators of future development have predicted that eventually most malls would use their vast surface parking lots for future higher density development. My favorite of these "visionaries" is James Kunstler. His writing style cracks me up, but his main point is that as land around commercial centers becomes ever more expensive the subsidy of free parking will become too high for owners of these properties to continue and most of the land will be filled in.

[UrbanAtl]

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I don't think we can expect all of these to be AS type developments, nor should they all be. The Doraville location should be home to major employers, Lakewood should include more residential, & Ft McPherson will include more civic uses.

I agree with what you're saying teshadoh.  They all need to be different and reflect their history and region of the city.  ARC will do it's job (enshallah) and make sure they all fit into the larger fabric that is metro Atlanta.  That was my point in saying that

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I hope that it all happens and that they all learn from AS and try to improve upon the model and not try to duplicate it.

  

When it has all been said and done I hope that none of these places are compared to AS but that each are so unique that they are themselves projects that others will wish to simulate.

And, nice to be in neighboring hoods with ya teshadoh.

[Go Gators]

Where exactly is the AS?

[ironchapman]

It's located at the nexus (meeting point) of I-75 and I-85.

It;s built upon the old Atlantic Steel Mill Site, hence the name "Atlantic Station"

[Student]

Go Gators, on Nov 24 2005, 09:17 PM, said:

Where exactly is the AS?

Despite Ironchapman's vague instructions, he was correct "in a way".
It is located in midtown on the west side of the Downtown Connector. When driving north I-75/85, look to the left and you'll see a Dillards, and a Wachovia building. Look out fot the 17th St. bridge. It's a yellow bridge that goes directly across the road. It will be before the Turner broadcasting buildings. When driving north on Peachtree St.,  look for 17th st. ( the numbers will increase as you move north[1,2,3,4,5etc] ), go across, and you'll be smack-dad in the middle of  Overated Retail Station aka Atlantic Station.

[ironchapman]

Student, on Nov 24 2005, 11:28 PM, said:

Despite Ironchapman's vague instructions, he was correct "in a way".
It is located in midtown on the west side of the Downtown Connector. When driving north I-75/85, look to the left and you'll see a Dillards, and a Wachovia building. Look out fot the 17th St. bridge. It's a yellow bridge that goes directly across the road. It will be before the Turner broadcasting buildings. When driving north on Peachtree St.,  look for 17th st. ( the numbers will increase as you move north[1,2,3,4,5etc] ), go across, and you'll be smack-dad in the middle of  Overated Retail Station aka Atlantic Station.

Yeah, I guess I should have been a more detailed, but I couldn't remember everything in my head and I didn't want to give out false info Thanks for clearing it up.

[Student]

I didn't mean it offensively.

Go Gators, It would look something like this.



I took this photo while being driven south on the Connector.  But remember, you can't access it directly from the highway.

Edited by Student, 25 November 2005 - 09:58 AM.

[Go Gators]

Thank you IC and student.

Remember, Im not from Atlanta, but want to move there after college.  I need those detailed descriptions for a while...then I will learn!

[Student]

You're welcome.

Don't die over it. It's not all that. But then again, we all have our own opinions.

[ironchapman]

I certainly spent a good half hour trying to navigate my way out of the complex. They need more detailed exit signs in the parking garage (I used a car to get there, so sue me ).

A good fast food place or two there would be nice, too.

Aside from that, I and my family enjoyed our trip there.

[Student]

Was it really? I found navigating it very easy. The street directly south of the lake (17th Street) will have you back on Peachtree St. in a flash. I think they could have done a better job at IKEA with accessing the parking garage, but it's pretty simple after you've done it once.  

Has anyone here seen the underground parking garage at IKEA. It's always packed, ike a tourist attraction.

[ironchapman]

It was probably because we were new to the area. Once we get used to going tere, it may be a bit easier to navigating the garages.

The streets were very easy to use, though, a little small, but the emphasis here wasn't on the car, so it was understandable. Once we parked our cars, we spent a good hour walking around the streets of it.

[atlla]

I found the navigation in the parking garage at AS to be a little confusing because of  the signs. I also think the Xmas tree at AS, looks ten times better than the one at Lenox. The tree at Lenox seems to be leaning towards one side. Though, I would prefer a tree with only white lights. AS was very busy yesterday and there was a plethora of parking space on the lower levels. I was there for about a hour and a half. Most of that was spent at the Cheesecake Bistro, where I had a great time. I really hope they seek more stores I would have interest, because after I went into the BR, Guess, and Taste. There were no more stores I wanted to shop.  The BR and Guess at Lenox have more of a selection. FYI

[Student]

I found the residential in the area very nice. I wish I could live @ the Art Foundry, walk to my job @ Wachovia, eat @ the California Pizza Kitchen, Go back to my Job @ Wachovia, Go to the Regal Movies Theater with my family, and then eat steaks and Sushi at the Strip.

[atlla]

I would get sick of looking at Atlantic Station. It's not that nice looking, and to me, it would get boring. I would prefer true Midtown or Buckhead.

Edited by atlla, 26 November 2005 - 01:54 PM.

[Student]

Yeah Buckhead is nice too. I could picture myself living at the Buckhead Grand,  buying my wife an expensive dress for Christman from phipps, working at some office, and taking the family out to dinner at Piebar.



Yeah Buckhead is nice too. I could picture myself living at the Buckhead Grand,  buying my wife an expensive dress for Christman from phipps, working at some office, and taking the family out to dinner at Piebar.