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#1 Mith242

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 01:47 PM

Just thought I'd start this topic, even though not as much seems to be going on sometimes.  At least compared to the other northwest Arkansas cities.  I've been seeing some commercials for a hispanic nightclub on tv quite a bit recently.  I just saw it a little while ago but got distracted and can't recall the name now.  Interesting idea, nice to see some stuff like this happen.  I know this has come up before in another topic but it would be great to have some sort of hispanic markets or hispanic oriented retail centers.  Not to say that Springdale can only focus on it's hispanic community, but it is something it's known for.  And they don't have as much going for them in Springdale compared to the other northwest Arkansas cities.  But anyway just thought it might be interesting to have a "Little Mexico' area.  Not just area where a number of hispanic live but also retail, entertainment and so on.

 

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 01:56 PM

This topic has existed a while but thought I'd put a link over here also in case the two topics are seperated from each other quite a bit from other topics.


http://www.urbanplan...showtopic=17711

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 07:39 AM

There's suppose to be a 427 acre subdivision going on out there.

I just heard about it this morning.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:33 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 5 2005, 07:39 AM, said:

There's suppose to be a 427 acre subdivision going on out there.

I just heard about it this morning.
Around the area where the sports complex is supposed to be?  There's a lot of land out there that hasn't been developed yet despite it's closeness to I-540 and Hwy412.  I had almost considered trying to stop there and take a pic but wasn't sure if it was worth trying to stop just to take a pic of an empty field.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:35 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 5 2005, 02:33 PM, said:

Around the area where the sports complex is supposed to be?  There's a lot of land out there that hasn't been developed yet despite it's closeness to I-540 and Hwy412.  I had almost considered trying to stop there and take a pic but wasn't sure if it was worth trying to stop just to take a pic of an empty field.
No, It was land that was recently annexed.

I think they want The land near I-540 and 412 to be more commercial.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:43 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 5 2005, 02:35 PM, said:

No, It was land that was recently annexed.

I think they want The land near I-540 and 412 to be more commercial.
Ah I see.  So you mentioned you thought 71B would eventually become mainly hispanic businesses and you'd like to see some restaurants and maybe a mall along the I-540 corridor in Springdale in the other Springdale topic.  While I guess not everyone looks forward to having multiple chain stores and restaurants it could still be useful for Springdale.  I think right now anything to get something going on up there would be nice.  Maybe if the city could find some way to better utilize and take advantage of the Jones Center.  I know they have tried revitalizing that area of town with the Jones Center and their Art Center but it hasn't worked out too well yet.  Any other suggestions for Springdale?

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:46 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 5 2005, 02:43 PM, said:

Any other suggestions for Springdale?
Revitalize the downtown district.

Put a Costco in the Sam's Building.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:51 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 5 2005, 02:46 PM, said:

Revitalize the downtown district.

Put a Costco in the Sam's Building.
Is Costco even looking to this area for a possible store?  Do you think they are ready to put in a store in Wal-mart/Sam's backyard?  Seems like most other places are rather reluctant.  Granted Target came in but it's a bit different than a Wal-mart store.  I'm not sure if Springdale will keep trying to revitalize much of the downtown area.  What areas they have done don't seem to be working out too well for them.  They've manage to bring in some restaurants and retail but I think most of them have closed or left in less than a year.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:53 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 5 2005, 02:51 PM, said:

Is Costco even looking to this area for a possible store?  Do you think they are ready to put in a store in Wal-mart/Sam's backyard?  Seems like most other places are rather reluctant.  Granted Target came in but it's a bit different than a Wal-mart store.  I'm not sure if Springdale will keep trying to revitalize much of the downtown area.  What areas they have done don't seem to be working out too well for them.  They've manage to bring in some restaurants and retail but I think most of them have closed or left in less than a year.
I think Springdale should get some "good quality" retail and restaurants. Put some interesting things like a Japenese Steakhouse and such in.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 03:00 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 5 2005, 02:53 PM, said:

I think Springdale should get some "good quality" retail and restaurants. Put some interesting things like a Japenese Steakhouse and such in.
That would certainly help.  I guess it's more of a question of talking some place into doing it.  I don't know if many places could be talked into giving up the Fayetteville or Rogers/Bentonville market to try out Springdale.  I guess Springdale is just going to have a problem getting something started.  Once that happens I think it could work itself up to other things.  Find a way to keep all the people that live in the city there and not to go to Rogers of Fayetteville to shop or eat.  I hate to keep mentioning this but what if they tried to put in some Mexican steakhouses or maybe more upsclae Mexican restaurants?  I think many people do identify Springdale with hispanics, even though Rogers has quite a lot too.  Maybe trying to work off that identity isn't the way to go but I thought it could be a possibility.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 03:14 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 5 2005, 03:00 PM, said:

That would certainly help.  I guess it's more of a question of talking some place into doing it.  I don't know if many places could be talked into giving up the Fayetteville or Rogers/Bentonville market to try out Springdale.  I guess Springdale is just going to have a problem getting something started.  Once that happens I think it could work itself up to other things.  Find a way to keep all the people that live in the city there and not to go to Rogers of Fayetteville to shop or eat.  I hate to keep mentioning this but what if they tried to put in some Mexican steakhouses or maybe more upsclae Mexican restaurants?  I think many people do identify Springdale with hispanics, even though Rogers has quite a lot too.  Maybe trying to work off that identity isn't the way to go but I thought it could be a possibility.
I'm not sure if another mexican restaurant is what Springdale needs. I love Mexican Food just as much as anyone else, but Springdale really needs to start getting some other restaurants besides mexican restaurants.

If Springdale could just convince a greatly known restaurant in the nation to move a location into the downtown area, I think things would begin to flourish. It could be chain or regional, as long as they would incorporate the downtown influence into the building.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 03:36 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 5 2005, 03:14 PM, said:

I'm not sure if another mexican restaurant is what Springdale needs. I love Mexican Food just as much as anyone else, but Springdale really needs to start getting some other restaurants besides mexican restaurants.

If Springdale could just convince a greatly known restaurant in the nation to move a location into the downtown area, I think things would begin to flourish. It could be chain or regional, as long as they would incorporate the downtown influence into the building.

I wouldn't mind seeing some nicer more upscale Mexican restaurants there but then again that's me.  But I can see how maybe that may not be the best avenue for the city to persue.  Unfortunately many people are going to believe stereotypes and that could hurt Springdale if it did try to capitalize more of the hispanic image of the city.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 07:25 PM

I don't think a segregated area like Little Mexico would be a good idea at all.  NWA does NOT need segregated ghettoes of large size, for now they're limited to Lindsey's' complexes.   :D

Upscale Mexican restaurants tend to be chain-oriented and well, not Mexican.  The really nice Mexican places in Dallas are all either chains or run by 2nd or 3rd generation English-raised "Tex Mex" families.

Is NWA getting a Cozymel's or Cantina Laredo soon?  It would be a good area for either.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 07:52 PM

View PostAporkalypse, on Dec 5 2005, 07:25 PM, said:

Is NWA getting a Cozymel's or Cantina Laredo soon?  It would be a good area for either.
I haven't heard anything  about either one coming so far.  Maybe Matt has.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 07:49 AM

Applebees plans to build a restaurant in Springdale near Sunset and 40th Street.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 02:42 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 6 2005, 07:49 AM, said:

Applebees plans to build a restaurant in Springdale near Sunset and 40th Street.
Well it's something.  Actually I'm a little surprised, the Applebees in Fayetteville is actually close to the Springdale border.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 02:46 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 6 2005, 02:42 PM, said:

Well it's something.  Actually I'm a little surprised, the Applebees in Fayetteville is actually close to the Springdale border.
I was wondering when they were going to build one in Springdale. I'm sure it's welcomed news in Springdale.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 02:51 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 6 2005, 02:46 PM, said:

I was wondering when they were going to build one in Springdale. I'm sure it's welcomed news in Springdale.
Yeah I'm sure it is.  I'm sure it doesn't seem like much to many people but it could be a start of Springdale getting something going.  I think even if they could start getting more people who live in the city to eat out and shop there that would be a big boost for them.  Then again I guess they need a boost since they ran off Sam's.  Wasn't that around $900,000 of tax income for them?  That was really stupid of them to run them off like that.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 03:19 PM

View PostMith242, on Dec 6 2005, 02:51 PM, said:

Yeah I'm sure it is.  I'm sure it doesn't seem like much to many people but it could be a start of Springdale getting something going.  I think even if they could start getting more people who live in the city to eat out and shop there that would be a big boost for them.  Then again I guess they need a boost since they ran off Sam's.  Wasn't that around $900,000 of tax income for them?  That was really stupid of them to run them off like that.
Yeah, Sam's makes about 950,000 for the city.

I think it's a great start for Springdale.

Do you know where this is. I get the impression that this will be near the new stadium.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 03:33 PM

View Postmcheiss, on Dec 6 2005, 03:19 PM, said:

Yeah, Sam's makes about 950,000 for the city.

I think it's a great start for Springdale.

Do you know where this is. I get the impression that this will be near the new stadium.
I admit I don't know the exact location.  But for some reason I was thinking it was more east.  But closer to I-540 makes much more sense.  Obviously being close to I-540 and that would also make it not quite so close to the one neat the Fayetteville-Springdale border.




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