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[ironchapman]

I wonder if people in towns called "Lanner" have the same problem, as in "Me n' Jedd, we went down ter 'Lanner this weekend".

They'll probably make the same mistake they did here and send something meant for Atlanta, GA to Atlanta, TX.

[NCB]

ironchapman, on Dec 12 2005, 07:00 AM, said:

I wonder if people in towns called "Lanner" have the same problem, as in "Me n' Jedd, we went down ter 'Lanner this weekend".

They'll probably make the same mistake and send something meant for Atlanta, GA to Atlanta, TX.

Haha, I could see some major foreign company accidentaly sending it's employees to a major convention in Atlanta, TX instead of Atlanta,GA.

FYI, Atlanta, Texas has a population of around 6,000 people.

[EbonyGardens]

Say Atlanta in Florida, and people here know right off the bat what city you're referring to. Same with Tampa, Miami and Orlando to people outside Florida.

[NCB]

I almost forgot about this picture, but after I saw this thread I thought about it.

Taken outside of Texarkana,TX.

^That is Atlanta,TX of course!

[bfermanich]

Student, on Dec 7 2005, 08:01 PM, said:

Andrea, many people know Atlanta as being Atlanta. Atlanta is becoming more of a household name, but you must be speaking about the media.

Which, by the way, is so incredibly "right-wing"!

Sorry. Had to chime in on that little nugget.

Yeah I think its about time we got recognized for who we are. When you think about it none of our sports teams have "Georgia" in their name's.

Atlanta Falcons
Atlanta Braves
Atlanta Hawks
Atlanta Thrashers
Georgia Force (only one)
Gwinnett Gladiators (well maybe two, but these don't count)

And yet teams like the Colorado Rockies, Arizona Diamondbacks, Texas Rangers, Carolina Panthers, Tennessee Titans.. all states. I guess the people who decided on these names thought the cities they played in didn't trump their resident states. So that should say something about Atlanta's stature.

[ryanmckibben]

Over the weekend, I was bored and decided to let the people at Dolce group know how thankful we all were for the clarification of exactly which Atlanta they are building in. His response (and my original e-mail) follow.

Ryan,

I apologize if you were offended and agree that Atlanta has no need for a
state abbreviation following it.  Our webmaster's instructions for that page
were simply to list our restaurants by name and city - I can only guess that
he put that in to make it explicitly clear that Kingpin would not be located
in CA, like the other places are.  But irregardless of his intentions, I've
asked him to remove it.

Trust me: if we thought that Atlanta was "some small backwards ass town," as
you put it, there is no way that we would have chosen it as the location for
our first restaurants outside of California.  We believe in the city and
have bet heavily on it.

Hope to see you at the openings in June!

Best wishes,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan McKibben [mailto:ryanm1975@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:17 PM
To: david@dolcegroup.com
Subject: Restaurant Locations

It's a good thing you specified Atlanta, GA for the new Kingpin on your
website. If that GA hadn't been there I probably would have assumed your new
place was in Atlanta, TX or possibly Atlanta, ID. Contrary to popular
opinion, we are not some small backwards ass town. I think it safe to say
that most people would know exactly where Atlanta is without the state
abbreviation.

[Martinman]

I think we're being a little over sensitive in this case.  I think the fact that Atlanta is one of the first expansion locations for their businesses is a bigger statement than the GA abbreviation.

[Andrea]

Thanks, Ryan.  I guess my feelings on this subject are evident, but maybe it's time we rise up and demand a little respect from these people who apparently think they're going to get lost in some kind of hillbilly wilderness unless they put "GA" on the end.  

I cringe every time I hear stories about the Runaway Bride, or that dude who was stacking up bodies outside the crematorium.  Whenever something like that comes out, I get the feeling that people in New York and California and probably even Ohio are rolling their eyes and saying, "Oh, yeah, *that* part of the country."

[teshadoh]

Andrea, on Jan 9 2006, 02:56 PM, said:

"Oh, yeah, *that* part of the country."

But we are in *that* part of the country

[Andrea]

teshadoh, on Jan 9 2006, 03:16 PM, said:

But we are in *that* part of the country

Oh.

Edited by Andrea, 09 January 2006 - 02:42 PM.

[Andrea]

I just wanted to say that I find this a continuing source of annoyance.  Yesterday I was watching the Weather Channel and the meteorologist said, "The storms are moving out of Dallas, across St. Louis, Memphis and Indianapolis, and on into the Atlanta, Georgia area."

For Pete's sake, she was pointing at the map!  Is Atlanta such a podunk town that it is the only one that has to have the state tacked on at the end?  Do they think people in the rest of the country won't know where Atlanta is unless they point out that it's in Georgia?

It's like, "Oh, everybody knows where Dallas and St. Louis, Memphis and Indianapolis are.  But Atlanta?  That's way down in Georgia, isn't it?  Let's be sure to point that out so people won't get all confused."

[Andrea]

Oh, and I heard another one recently.  On a call in show they were getting callers from all over the place -- Boston, Tampa, Charlotte, Philadelphia.  Not once did they mention the state after the city.  Then, they said, "Okay, now let's take a call from Atlanta, Georgia."

Good grief!!!  Do they really think that unless they add "Georgia" that nobody is going to know where they are talking about?  It makes us sound so bush leaque.

[Pillsbury]

I've written this before in the Charlotte forum when they were mad about the NC attachment, so let me just say this because it applies directly to Atlanta.  
My aunt and cousins went to live in Hollywood last year for the summer (yes, they want to be actresses and yes they met Dakota Fanning   ).    Anyway, the whole time they were there they were telling people they were from Augusta, Georgia.   No one seemed to know where that was until they said, "The Masters."  And then people were like, "Oh yeah, Augusta National.  Right on."   Okay, so that was how she identified herself.   Still, most people assumed that Augusta was a suburb of Atlanta and would often introduce her as being from Atlanta, near the Augusta National.  No kidding.

Other people were not so lucky.  She met a woman there from Columbia.  No one knew where Columbia was.  No one knew where South Carolina was.   In fact, the only places that people in California knew when she was there, were Texas, Atlanta, and Florida.    Everyone assumed this one lady I think she was from North Carolina was from Atlanta, until she actually became very upset.   Same with the Columbia person.  My aunt says she finally just got upset and said Columbia, South Carolina!!!! I"m from Columbia.  And then the producers were like, "Oh okay.  How far is that from Atlanta? Or is that closer to Florida?"  I'm not kidding.  So be happy Atlanta, they know you in Hollywood!!!

Edited by Pillsbury, 16 November 2006 - 11:46 AM.

[Pillsbury]

Andrea, on Nov 16 2006, 11:54 AM, said:

I just wanted to say that I find this a continuing source of annoyance.  Yesterday I was watching the Weather Channel and the meteorologist said, "The storms are moving out of Dallas, across St. Louis, Memphis and Indianapolis, and on into the Atlanta, Georgia area."

For Pete's sake, she was pointing at the map!  Is Atlanta such a podunk town that it is the only one that has to have the state tacked on at the end?  Do they think people in the rest of the country won't know where Atlanta is unless they point out that it's in Georgia?

It's like, "Oh, everybody knows where Dallas and St. Louis, Memphis and Indianapolis are.  But Atlanta?  That's way down in Georgia, isn't it?  Let's be sure to point that out so people won't get all confused."

Oh yeah, the Weather Channel always does that.  They're just trying to make up for those stupid "Head On" commercials and the fact that every single live shot is of Cumberland Galleria.  I'm like, "Show something else!!!!"   They do tend to be rather Atlanta-centric and I think they're just trying to show the rest of the country that they're on the same team.    But I've honestly watched when it would be pretty in Atlanta and they'll be reporting on snowstorm in Minnesota or something, and the reporter is like, "wow, Jennifer, that's really bad snow up there.  Well, it's a beautiful night in Atlanta, currently about 70 degrees.  Can't wait to get out in this, heheheheheehe."

[Hybrid0NE]

Pillsbury, on Nov 16 2006, 12:59 PM, said:

They're just trying to make up for those stupid "Head On" commercials and the fact that every single live shot is of Cumberland Galleria.

Hey Pillsbury, we're trying to ditch the Galleria add-on, just call it Cumberland . I thought Atlanta would've lost the Georgia attachment after the Olympics?

[pksiv]

Andrea, on Nov 16 2006, 12:00 PM, said:

Oh, and I heard another one recently.  On a call in show they were getting callers from all over the place -- Boston, Tampa, Charlotte, Philadelphia.  Not once did they mention the state after the city.  Then, they said, "Okay, now let's take a call from Atlanta, Georgia."

Good grief!!!  Do they really think that unless they add "Georgia" that nobody is going to know where they are talking about?  It makes us sound so bush leaque.

That's to keep us from being confused with all the others...  type in just Atlanta at weather.com and you get

Atlanta, Georgia
Atlanta, Indiana
Atlanta, Idaho
Atlanta, Missouri
Atlanta, Michigan
Atlanta, Louisiana
Atlanta, Illinois

Lucky for us we're first!  

Of course, there's quite a few other Boston's as well, including Boston, Georgia so I guess that isn't a good argument.

[Pillsbury]

Hybrid0NE, on Nov 16 2006, 02:07 PM, said:

Hey Pillsbury, we're trying to ditch the Galleria add-on, just call it Cumberland . I thought Atlanta would've lost the Georgia attachment after the Olympics?

Sorry, I missed the memo!!!  

[ryancs]

I don't really think the state abreviation after Atlanta is anything more than a habbit.  Where it started, I don't know but it makes me think of how I got in the habbit of calling some adults by their first and last names when I was young.  "Hi, Bob Jones.." etc.  Sounds weird now, but the two names went together and I still want to call those people by their first and last name.

I've talked to people all over the country and when they ask where I'm from and I say "Atlanta", there never is any question of which state Atlanta is in...so I really wouldn't worry about this too much.  Just a repeated phrase that has kind of stuck.

[HAMMETTM]

Pillsbury, on Nov 16 2006, 01:45 PM, said:

Other people were not so lucky.  She met a woman there from Columbia.  No one knew where Columbia was.  No one knew where South Carolina was.

Columbia, maybe. South Carolina, well, that just seems like pure ignorance to me.

[Spartan]

Pillsbury, on Nov 16 2006, 12:45 PM, said:

I've written this before in the Charlotte forum when they were mad about the NC attachment, so let me just say this because it applies directly to Atlanta.  
My aunt and cousins went to live in Hollywood last year for the summer (yes, they want to be actresses and yes they met Dakota Fanning   ).    Anyway, the whole time they were there they were telling people they were from Augusta, Georgia.   No one seemed to know where that was until they said, "The Masters."  And then people were like, "Oh yeah, Augusta National.  Right on."   Okay, so that was how she identified herself.   Still, most people assumed that Augusta was a suburb of Atlanta and would often introduce her as being from Atlanta, near the Augusta National.  No kidding.

Other people were not so lucky.  She met a woman there from Columbia.  No one knew where Columbia was.  No one knew where South Carolina was.   In fact, the only places that people in California knew when she was there, were Texas, Atlanta, and Florida.    Everyone assumed this one lady I think she was from North Carolina was from Atlanta, until she actually became very upset.   Same with the Columbia person.  My aunt says she finally just got upset and said Columbia, South Carolina!!!! I"m from Columbia.  And then the producers were like, "Oh okay.  How far is that from Atlanta? Or is that closer to Florida?"  I'm not kidding.  So be happy Atlanta, they know you in Hollywood!!!

so much for that california education system! I can understand not knowing where Columbia is, but there is NO excuse for not knowing where every state in the union is. I personally think people should know the capitals a major cities too, but I know thats pushing it. Its the geographer in me