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[btoy]

What about a statue to the Mayor Before Knox White, didn't he get the ball rolling on the downtown revitalization?

[Danmire]

I believe the seeds to Downtowns success were sown by Max Heller.  It appears there is going to be something honoring him on 385 coming in at the last bridge.  I think it's called the Max Heller Gateway to Greenville.  I wonder what that will be.

[RestedTraveler]

We've been wondering that for a while.  I think there was some discussion of it over in the I-385 thread or perhaps another.  So far, as I recall, it's just going to be elaborate landscaping, nothing with regard to sculpture or hardscape.  I'd personally like to see the overpass bridge there transformed into some sort of "Welcome to Greenville" gateway, along the lines of the one on I-4 in Orlando:





If this were to include a statue of Max Heller surrounded by some lush landscaping, all the better!

Edited by RestedTraveler, 13 December 2005 - 06:51 PM.

[GvilleSC]

RestedTraveler, on Dec 13 2005, 07:50 PM, said:

We've been wondering that for a while.  I think there was some discussion of it over in the I-385 thread or perhaps another.  So far, as I recall, it's just going to be elaborate landscaping, nothing with regard to sculpture or hardscape.  I'd personally like to see the overpass bridge there transformed into some sort of "Welcome to Greenville" gateway, along the lines of the one on I-4 in Orlando:





If this were to include a statue of Max Heller surrounded by some lush landscaping, all the better!

I'd love to see something like that on the bridge right there... Just a little bit more upscale and nicer looking.  

[RestedTraveler]

These aren't the best photos in the world, unfortunately.

What you can't see in these photos is that the seal of the City of Orlando is on the left and the seal of Orange County, Florida is on the right.  Also, the light posts on the extreme left and extreme right of this overpass are very large spectacular Modern Art Deco Torches.  If we go more up-scale than this, it would be saying something.  

Edited by RestedTraveler, 13 December 2005 - 11:00 PM.

[GvilleSC]

RestedTraveler, on Dec 13 2005, 11:58 PM, said:

These aren't the best photos in the world, unfortunately.

What you can't see in these photos is that the seal of the City of Orlando is on the left and the seal of Orange County, Florida is on the right.  Also, the light posts on the extreme left and extreme right of this overpass are very large spectacular Modern Art Deco Torches.  If we go more up-scale than this, it would be saying something.  

Haha, I was meaning more along the lines of that chain-link fence... Are they attached to that? I was think that if they are attached, then we should do something with wrought iron or something a little more aesthetically pleasing... you know?  

[RestedTraveler]

GvilleSC, on Dec 14 2005, 02:55 AM, said:

Haha, I was meaning more along the lines of that chain-link fence... Are they attached to that? I was think that if they are attached, then we should do something with wrought iron or something a little more aesthetically pleasing... you know?  

Ah... <the light bulb goes on>

They are attached; however, that's not a chain link fence.  It's steel wire such as one would typically find being used as both support and railing in a parking garage (such as the Richardson Street Garage).  

I agree with you on the wrought iron idea though.  Perhaps stack stone columns supporting nice classic street lights (like they have on that overpass down in Simpsonville) with wrought iron between them and a nice

"welcome to GREENVILLE"

across the whole thing.

Edited by RestedTraveler, 14 December 2005 - 08:10 AM.

[gsupstate]

RestedTraveler, on Dec 13 2005, 07:50 PM, said:

We've been wondering that for a while.  I think there was some discussion of it over in the I-385 thread or perhaps another.  So far, as I recall, it's just going to be elaborate landscaping, nothing with regard to sculpture or hardscape.  I'd personally like to see the overpass bridge there transformed into some sort of "Welcome to Greenville" gateway, along the lines of the one on I-4 in Orlando:





If this were to include a statue of Max Heller surrounded by some lush landscaping, all the better!

Is this the overpass near Millenia Mall?  Conroy Road maybe?  I always get a kick out of that one.  The big light towers flanking both sides.  Definitely makes a statement!

I think it was Columbus, Ohio I was in, on their northern beltline, they did the name of each road in wrought iron as part of the railing on the overpasses.  Really nice.  

[RestedTraveler]

gsupstate, on Dec 14 2005, 09:44 AM, said:

Is this the overpass near Millenia Mall?  Conroy Road maybe?  I always get a kick out of that one.  The big light towers flanking both sides.  Definitely makes a statement!

That's the one, yes, indeed!  

gsupstate, on Dec 14 2005, 09:44 AM, said:

I think it was Columbus, Ohio I was in, on their northern beltline, they did the name of each road in wrought iron as part of the railing on the overpasses.  Really nice.  

I saw this same thing driving South into Cincinnati from Dayton on I-75 this past summer.  And on I-75 in Dayton itself, there were fighter jets and the Wright Brother's flyer molded into the new concrete walls and adorning the new overpasses along the interstate.  It was pretty cool.

[gsupstate]

RestedTraveler, on Dec 14 2005, 11:03 AM, said:

That's the one, yes, indeed!  
I saw this same thing driving South into Cincinnati from Dayton on I-75 this past summer.  And on I-75 in Dayton itself, there were fighter jets and the Wright Brother's flyer molded into the new concrete walls and adorning the new overpasses along the interstate.  It was pretty cool.

Cool.      What could GV mold into concrete......um.....BMW's? the impression of the Falls? textile spinners?  Do we have anything cool that would work?

[Greenville]

I prefer that we not accentuate the textiles.  That is in our past and it seems that the city is moving away from that into more knowledge-based jobs.

I'm not saying we shouldn't remember our past, but I personally wouldn't prefer that we make it a focal point in working toward becoming the city we would like to be.

[gvillenative]

I know it's not downtown but that last post kinda turned a light bulb in my head. It wouldn't be living in the past but rather honoring it. How about a statue of John D. Hollingsworth, say like out at ICAR maybe in the center of the roundabout by his home. Again not downtown, or really Greenville for that matter, but another good one would be Roger Milliken not only was he a textile giant but he also brought us, along with other people, our beloved Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport. They already named the airfield after him why not a statue in the plaza area outside the resteraunt.

[Greenville]

I agree about Hollingsworth.  I think a nice statue of him would be appropriate at Verdae, somewhere in the town center planned there.

[RestedTraveler]

We could have a statue of each U.S. President downtown, but isn't there already a city up in Montana, or one of the Dakota's or some place that has already done this?

[gvillenative]

I was in the middle of writing a post and had another idea, so I had to erase the whole thing and start over . How about one of George Hincappie along the proposed bike trail if its ever built. If it isn't built it would be cool along the path from Cleveland Park, like where the trail ends in Falls Park . Ya know him on the bike after he won Stage 15 in the Tour de France, arguably the toughest stage in the whole tour this year. Just a thought.

[RestedTraveler]

gvillenative, on Dec 18 2005, 09:20 PM, said:

I was in the middle of writing a post and had another idea, so I had to erase the whole thing and start over . How about one of George Hincappie along the proposed bike trail if its ever built. If it isn't built it would be cool along the path from Cleveland Park, like where the trail ends in Falls Park . Ya know him on the bike after he won Stage 15 in the Tour de France, arguably the toughest stage in the whole tour this year. Just a thought.

That's an excellent idea!  I can see it now!  

[Greenville]

Would it be a stretch to have a statue of George and Lance side by side on their bikes?

[gsupstate]

Greenville, on Dec 19 2005, 01:26 AM, said:

Would it be a stretch to have a statue of George and Lance side by side on their bikes?

Excellent idea!  

[RestedTraveler]

Greenville, on Dec 19 2005, 01:26 AM, said:

Would it be a stretch to have a statue of George and Lance side by side on their bikes?

I dunno - I think this may actually be a bit of a stretch, myself.  Perhaps simply some inscription at the base detailing that George is the only one of Lance's teammates to ride along with him on all seven of his Tour de France victories?

[gvillenative]

Yeah that would be suffice. I think the idea is for statues of Greenvillians, although it would be nice for Lance to be included, at the same time it would take away from the idea. However an inscription descriping the signifigance of George's efforts and his being the only teammate to ride with him on all 7 Tours.