Tucson Downtown/Rio Nuevo Thread
#241
Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:12 PM
Failing a look at the respective plans, I vote for the mixed-use!
#242
Posted 05 September 2007 - 08:31 AM
Finally, the poor Santa Rita gets a hint of life.
This was a Clarion up until its closing about two years ago. I've always hoped that it would be renovated and put back on as a hotel. Downtown needs more hotels at this point.
I don't know that San Diego is a good example. I'd think more like Downtown Albuquerque and what they did with the Hotel Blue, although I would hope that it would be nicer than that.
#243
Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:51 PM
All four potential developers have finally released their full proposals.
I wish they could all win!
The Faulkner/Hyatt looks really interesting, but I don't think it'll make it (a little too weird for the chain hotel market).
The Norville/Marriott would most likely put the hotel in two different places in order to use his land. Kind of lame.
#244
Posted 08 September 2007 - 09:54 PM
Edited by tombarnes, 09 September 2007 - 11:50 AM.
#245
Posted 28 September 2007 - 10:07 AM
Ernesto Portillo Jr.: Portland trumpeted; no fanfare for Tucson
#246
Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:02 PM
I posted something about this a long time ago, but I guess it just recently came up in Council.
The proposal would have set up cameras a la Big Brother to monitor illegal activity on Downtown streets. There is already quite a bit of implementation of this in the UK and it's been very effective for cutting down, if not outright preventing, crime.
I think it's a great idea, but I can understand why the city would be hesitant. American society is so full of conspiracy theorists and borderline paranoid schizophrenics that this is just asking for a lawsuit. I'd like to see an American city do this, but Tucson certainly isn't proactive enough to be the pioneer.
#247
Posted 03 October 2007 - 08:29 AM
I was really excited about this project, but its death has been inevitable since the condo market started crashing almost a year ago. This was one of the more promising projects Downtown as it was to offer a large retail space and several well-designed condos all in a LEED-certified building.
Peggy Noonan is also actually a really nice lady, and I feel bad for her that she has to deal with press like this and flack from the City. But it's better than sitting on a dirt lot for another few years, since the parking lot has been pretty ripped up by excavations.
#248
Posted 07 November 2007 - 09:17 PM
City breaks deal with Downtown condo developer
The question now is: what will happen to the property? My prediction is that it will be redeveloped as a mixed-use site, but not with the height or density that was seen in this proposal.
#249
Posted 28 December 2007 - 03:42 PM
This is in reference to an article I posted in this thread a while ago ("W. Side project...").
I don't know about this cooperative effort.
The Portland people need to get moving on MLK: what an f'in eyesore! Bad enough that it's butt-ugly, but now it's all gated off and gutted.
#250
Posted 25 January 2008 - 04:20 PM
This is a new project though:
Downtown church's Sunday school to become condos
And since the Star are now jerks and make you log in sometimes:
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I'm surprised that developers are still embarking on project like this with the way the market is. Can they really still sell a place like this for over $200k when there are larger houses not far away going for the same?
The Star is also still optimistic about The Post Lofts and 44 E Broadway projects, listing them in the "pre-construction" phases. 44 E Broadway has been in "pre-construction" for over two years.
#251
Posted 15 February 2008 - 10:19 AM
The streetcar tracks down Congress in front of the Hotel Congress are down (although there's no concrete) and the Fourth Avenue underpass is cleared for now.
The old MLK apartments, which were public housing but are being redeveloped into private apartments and condos, are actually seeing some demo and other work.
I'll take pics of this stuff when I get a chance.
There was also some drama with the Casablanca restaurant, which served over-priced Mediterranean in an old mansion at Franklin and Stone, as it was recently locked up by the owner for failure to pay taxes, as a condition of the lease (they had free rent). The owner blames Downtown construction for the "90% drop in business," but both the Tucson Weekly and Daily Star gave the place negative reviews soon after opening, and most people I work with Downtown had gone and had issues with it. Personally, I didn't think that it would survive just because of the prices (Downtown does not need another high-end restaurant at this point) and the service level. They also seemed to never really get their sh*t together. I went in once and asked if they did happy hour and the reply was that they were planning on it, although it never really happened.
The sad part of the story is that the tiny Latin-Up Cafe, owned by former Irene's owners, in the same building was also locked up as a result, preventing the owners from not only operating but also retrieving several thousand dollars in equipment. That place has not re-opened either, which is a shame because it sounded good and I never got the chance to try it.
Also an article in last week's Tucson Weekly regarding plans to remodel the Downtown train depot's lobby. Central Bistro, the failed experiment inside the depot, could not survive even with the free rent and closed fairly recently (although the sign is still up), and now Hotel Congress plans to establish a market at the site.
#252
Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:51 AM
Info about the project is available on their site: http://www.thepostlofts.com/, and there have been numerous articles in the Arizona Daily Star over the past couple of months.
I've been spending some of my afternoon at Ronstadt Transit Center Downtown waiting for the bus and have been watching the demo of the former MLK Apartments (public housing), which are being turned into private apartments. There always seem to be changes when I see it, but I never actually see any activity. Maybe they knock off at 4. I can't find any official sites on the project from the developer and have never seen any renderings. Hopefully they'll at least repaint it.
The new county building on Stone at Franklin (a block which used to include the ill-fated Coconuts night club) has begun construction. It was, for many moons, held up by archaeological excavation, as the original plot was built over a 19th-century cemetery, and the bodies were apparently never moved before the original buildings were constructed. I'll start posting pics when there's something to actually look at.
#253
Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:35 PM
Article Here and also Here
Edited by Butta, 29 March 2008 - 06:37 PM.
#254
Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:34 AM
The units will be studio and one bedrooms and will range from, or so I've heard, $650 - 750 per month.
http://onenorthfifth.com/
Nothing terribly exciting, but at least it's actually happening.
#255
Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:53 PM
colin, on Apr 2 2008, 06:34 AM, said:
The units will be studio and one bedrooms and will range from, or so I've heard, $650 - 750 per month.
http://onenorthfifth.com/
Nothing terribly exciting, but at least it's actually happening.

I don't know about anybody else, but this project doesn't excite me enough to sell my house and move downtown. Hopefully they will be better projects in the horizon, I think 44 Broadway and The Post would entice more people, if they ever get built.
#256
Posted 03 April 2008 - 06:39 PM
#257
Posted 05 April 2008 - 03:32 PM
Projected $196 million tab may lead city to ax project
Full Article Here
Edited by Butta, 05 April 2008 - 03:33 PM.
#258
Posted 06 April 2008 - 11:04 AM
#259
Posted 11 September 2009 - 04:50 PM
There was an article a few days ago that stated the property has gone into foreclosure. The office had sat for years, unused, and appeared to be unoccupied. One of several Downtown residential developments that tanked.
Here it is: link, although I read a different article.
This is in this current issue of the Weekly:
Missing Links
The article details one business owner's interaction with ADOT and the City's Downtown Links program. That program was responsible for the reconstructed Fourth Avenue underpass (which finally reopened about a month ago) and the realignment of both Sixth and Stone Avenues south of Downtown to two-way streets.
Also this: Link
Maynard's took the empty void of the failed Central Bistro inside of the refurbished train depot. I don't think that many people had faith in it, except that it was owned by the Hotel Congress guy, which gave it more hope. What's worked for the market is word of mouth and a weekly event that started less than a year: Meet Me at Maynard's. This is a running (or walking) event that takes place every Monday evening. It's been very successful. I know a few people who attend it regularly. Now that the underpass is back open, you should see more people not only at this event, but using the underpass to get over to Fourth Ave.
I also wanted to point out a couple of my Downtown observations.
If you haven't been to On a Roll yet, you should go for their happy hour. M-F, 4-6. Selected rolls are half price, draft beer is $3.50. Saturday reverse happy hour sees selected $1 nigiri and $2.50 drafts. Seriously, the best happy hour in town right now, because the sushi is actually really damn good. I'm not associated with the place, I'm just a big fan, and I'm really happy that they've managed to stay open.
Of the few dance clubs that I've set foot in, Asylum was the only club that I actually liked. It went under over a year ago, but their recently and seemingly randomly sprang up a new club there. The club was not only busy, but actually had a huge line down the street waiting to get in. Lots of pretty young people looking their best, so this is not Asylum (I used to go in there in flip-flops and jeans). I don't recall the name of the club, and that was a few weeks ago, but I do wish them the best. Downtown, and especially that part of Congress, need to liven things up.
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