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[kcpimp]

Columbus is underrated.

And to a lesser extent, KC. STL always steals the show

It's actually quite ironic, given STL's decayed state

[GR8scott]

kcpimp, on Nov 9 2006, 12:09 PM, said:

Columbus is underrated.

And to a lesser extent, KC. STL always steals the show

It's actually quite ironic, given STL's decayed state

KC and Columbus remind me of sister cities and they are both underated for the same reason, STL steals the show because its older, used to be larger, has a larger metro area, and more on the national scene as far as landmarks, culture, people, hiistory, entertainment, ect. The same goes for Columbus being over shadowed by Cleveland and Cincy to a lesser extent for the same reasons.

[Matthew/E36]

NorthStar, on Jan 6 2005, 03:04 PM, said:

Finally, Clayton, MO is a city that "exists" because of its location to and dependence upon a major metropolitan area.  So, should it even be part of this discussion?

daniel nudnik, on Jan 31 2005, 11:03 AM, said:

suburbs don't count. I dispute clayton, and omit my home (ann arbor) out of fairness.

I am from StL and I agree that I wouldn't necessarily call it an "underrated city".

But I disagree with the people that say it only exists because it is part of StL.  It is an old edge city and a unique area.  It was not planned as a new downtown, it just happened that way.  It is actually the county seat, so that IS why there are so many "tall" (not really) buildings in that small area;  they have to be in the limits.  So it is the "capital" of the greater metro area pretty much...and that is not the same thing as downtown, which is the city, not county.

Yes, some people live there, a few of those buildings are residential.

I don't think Minneapolis is underated, I think it is fairly well known, as well as Pittsburgh.  Whether we consider Pittsburgh midwest is another story and I don't want to debate that.  Although stating it has a lot of "old buildings" doesn't make it eastern or midwestern.  I like both cities, but I don't think they are underated by most at this time.

[Matthew/E36]

For those that don't want to google Clayton, MO...

http://www.cyburbia....read.php?t=1349

http://www.ci.clayto...px?location=127

[Chazarelli]

Clayton is the crap, nothing else to say.  Go down there for lunch during a weekday and see what's its like.

[MJLO]

Chazarelli, on Dec 7 2006, 01:54 PM, said:

Clayton is the crap, nothing else to say.  Go down there for lunch during a weekday and see what's its like.

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Chazarelli consider yourself warned.  Find other ways to express your feelings about places you don't like or action will be taken against you.  Random insults of any place is adolescent in nature, and it has no place here.  If someone wants to say they consider some random place in the middle of nowhere  the greatest city on the face of the earth, they are more than welcome.  You are more than welcome to disagree with them, but you must express yourself in a way reflecting the values of Urbanplanet. Anything such as the above statement, lacks the level of class and professionalism modeled on this site.

[Chazarelli]

I think you took my comment out of context, if you read it again you will see that I was complementing Clayton.  The "the" in that statement is very important.

[MJLO]

My bad my friend  my eyes must be playing tricks on me.   I get a little trigger happy in these mid west comparison threads because they so quickly turn into a pissing contest.  

no harm no foul,  I take it back

[ZachariahDaMan]

MJLO, when I first read it I missed "the" also so I too thought he was insulting the city lol

[Chazarelli]

I will watch myself from now on, I guess there are better ways to say it.

My girlfriend (and 75% of my best friends) are from St. Louis and I had been all over the city for various reasons, but never to Clayton.  It wasn't until last spring when a friend of mine who was working for ARCO construction at the time, told me to meet him there for lunch, did I realize the city.  

It is unbeliveable, and I always ask my girlfriend why she never showed me such an awsome place.

[Paramaribo]

Because of work I have spent time in most of the cities mentioned on this poll and my bias leans toward Grand Rapids because I currently live here.
Nevertheless, it's an amazing little city. Certainly underated.

[dan326]

Is Nebraska considered midwest?

[mcheiss]

dan326, on Dec 21 2006, 01:58 PM, said:

Is Nebraska considered midwest?

I can say that Omaha is.

[dan326]

^Thanks.
I would say that Kansas City is the most underated because I never really thought Kansas City was anything until a little while ago.

[cheshireguy]

1. Grand Rapids - 200,000 city, 1.2 million metro, skyline growing daily, great standard of living , and HISTORY - not much of that in Clayton- the STL, yes, but Clayton?
2. Omaha - beautiful downtown, vibrant street life, colleges, and HISTORY.
3. Milwaukee - underrated and a wrongly deserved bad rap.  One of my favorite cities for business that leads to great times.  AND HISTORY.

[Cabot]

http://ledger.southo...nion/opin03.txt

Another vote for Grand Rapids

[hudkina]

I find it ironic that someone from Massachusetts looks to Michigan as an example of "doing it right" while often people from Michigan are doing just the opposite.  I guess it goes to show that it doesn't matter where you live, the grass always seems to be greener on the other side.

[danielmdifranco]

Grand Rapids. It is similar to Rochester NY where I grew up. Both are metro area of over 1 million people, similar in size to Memphis or Oklahoma City, yet they have very little national recognition.

I have to throw in Springfield, MO for a mid sized city. It gets overshadowed by Madison, WI and Des Moines.

[coolbrezze]

A few underrated midwest cites: Grand Rapids, Michigan            Lansing, Michigan

[Exiled Tim]

I am SHOCKED by the lack of attention Des Moines, IA gets (heck, for that matter the whole state of Iowa doesn't get mentioned in any of the regions on UP).  I live in DM for the summer and it's fabulous.  Downtown life, suburban sprawl, shopping, dining, sports, government, schools (three in a 45 minute radius), and weather.  Its a metro of 2.2 or so million and is only growing because of the lack of competition in the central IA area.  It's a treat.

However, as a 24-year Grand Rapidian, GR takes the cake.  I am SOO pleased to see it get pub and credit where credit is due.

Also: experience Minneapolis if you haven't--it's gorgeous.