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[BoylanHghts]

Subway Scoundrel, on Mar 9 2006, 10:58 AM, said:

I thought the Cobras left because the Huirricanes were doing so well (the year they went to the SC finals) and people were spending their money with them.    So they triend Charoltte since they had the arena open up and little to change?   I could be wrong.  

I wish there was a arena team in NC but both cities are sports saturated.    Need to increase the population more to get anything outside of a 2nd division team in MSL.    

Not to mention, there is an arena team here in Raleigh that was to played at Dorton Arena.   Did it ever take off?  It was a couple of divisions below the Arena League you see on NBC.  A bunch of weekend warriors.

The Raleigh Rebels currently play at Dorton Arena. They don't get much publicity.
http://www.raleighrebels.com/

[pack-man]

DanRNC, on Mar 8 2006, 06:11 PM, said:

Write a letter to the city. Do something about it rather than complaining on here.

I've sent a letter to the NCDOT a couple of years ago, never heard from them.  So this entitles me to mention it on here as a relevant gripe.

[PAVANC]

Here is the latest!

http://www.newsobser...ory/423101.html

[avery]

I can't beleive that this lady would bring up traffic congestion concerns during events at the RBC/Carter Finley.  There will always be congestion whenever there is an event at one of these venues.  This land will not stay undeveloped forever.  This area has one of the best road networks in the area to handle large volumes of traffic.  It appears like a good start to the area.

[Eastwestrob]

avery, on Mar 29 2006, 10:07 AM, said:

I can't beleive that this lady would bring up traffic congestion concerns during events at the RBC/Carter Finley.  There will always be congestion whenever there is an event at one of these venues.  This land will not stay undeveloped forever.  This area has one of the best road networks in the area to handle large volumes of traffic.  It appears like a good start to the area.

I am hoping that a development such as the new 960 acre 2,000,000. sf retail and 900 home and 2 hotel proposal in Cary will happen in this area. That is a massive new developement and this is what this area needs.

[ericurbanite]

here is some site plans of 40/wade.

Theres not any renderings or anything, looks like alot of surface parking though.

FORTY/WADE

[pack-man]

Its about time this plan moves forward.  This will be great for that area.  Right now it feels like you left a city to attend these city's events.  This should help with that.  Hopefully, NC State will start selling off the farm land across Wade and put some nice hotels there.  That would be great for the pro franchise in the RBC center

[Eastwestrob]

pack-man, on Mar 29 2006, 03:46 PM, said:

Its about time this plan moves forward.  This will be great for that area.  Right now it feels like you left a city to attend these city's events.  This should help with that.  Hopefully, NC State will start selling off the farm land across Wade and put some nice hotels there.  That would be great for the pro franchise in the RBC center

Someday it will not be like Woodstock

[ericurbanite]

pack-man, on Mar 29 2006, 03:46 PM, said:

Its about time this plan moves forward.  This will be great for that area.  Right now it feels like you left a city to attend these city's events.  This should help with that.  Hopefully, NC State will start selling off the farm land across Wade and put some nice hotels there.  That would be great for the pro franchise in the RBC center

If NC State was smart they would keep the land and develop there own land.  I am sure they can have there students plan out everything for that land for an educational purpose. They can look for farm space elsewhere.

[Subway Scoundrel]

ericurbanite, on Mar 29 2006, 01:34 PM, said:

here is some site plans of 40/wade.

Theres not any renderings or anything, looks like alot of surface parking though.

FORTY/WADE

I agree.  I am afraid it went from a tight urban atmosphere with talk of a transit line running through it back in 2001's Colonial Properties plan to a parceled out Brier Creek/Mini City/Big box/Cary Development plan today.  I almost would rather see it stand as a field.

I say that before I really understand the plan but it looks like just more of the same in a shiny package.  

I guess I could be called a NIMBY for going against it and a Dev-ho for supporting it.   I will stay undecided until I see more.

Edited by Subway Scoundrel, 29 March 2006 - 05:01 PM.

[DwnTwnRaleighGuy]

I agree.  I am afraid it went from a tight urban atmosphere with talk of a transit line running through it back in 2001's Colonial Properties plan to a parceled out Brier Creek/Mini City/Big box/Cary Development plan today.  I almost would rather see it stand as a field.

I agree, it seems to be going in the wrong planning direction...sad!

[pack-man]

I'm just glad to see some sort of developmeout out there.  Although, this area had great potential for a tight urban setting, its naive to assume that this would ever be done.  This is Raleigh after all.  I hope that NCSU does develop their land very smart and create a dense environment right by the RBC Center.  This area is a great gateway for Raleigh and should be viewed as such instead of just an exit off the highway to go to an event.

[orulz]

pack-man, on Mar 30 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

I'm just glad to see some sort of developmeout out there.  Although, this area had great potential for a tight urban setting, its naive to assume that this would ever be done.

The "Build something, doesn't matter what, just build!" attitude is dangerous. That has a tendancy to net us winning developments like Crossroads.

I wouldn't be in a rush to approve anything in this area. Let it stay undeveloped until the right person with the right plan comes along. This may in fact be the "right plan" but to simply approve it because it was proposed would be unwise.

[Jones133]

Since when did the RBC center create an atmosphere where development was required? Raleigh would function not just quite fine, but better, if this tract were left undeveloped for another 20 years or so. My girlfriend happens to live on the side of Trinity Rd and can see where this heap will be developed. The land out there is so beautiful...it rolls on and on, deer run through the fields, ducks swim in the creeks....we took a long walk down there last weekend and came back with almost a glazed look in our eyes at how cool it was to be able walk in such awesome woods (much better than Umstead imo) within shouting distance of the RBC center. If you could get the fat hairless monkeys out of their SUVs for such a walk, you just might have some support for holding off on developing this land recklessly, if at all.

[ChiefJoJo]

I'm afraid that went out the window when the state decided to sell the land a few years ago.  It is a shame.  If he RBC Center was being built today, it surely would be DT, and much of this land wouldnt be developed.  Time to move on...

[pack-man]

ChiefJoJo, on Mar 31 2006, 12:20 PM, said:

I'm afraid that went out the window when the state decided to sell the land a few years ago.  It is a shame.  If he RBC Center was being built today, it surely would be DT, and much of this land wouldnt be developed.  Time to move on...

good point, but unfortunately that isn't the case.  And now it is time to develop the area intelligently.  It is a great untapped area with enormous potential because of the draws to that area.  More people venture there on any game night then downtown raleigh on any night.  So this area needs to be treated as such.  I wish a smart development such as North Hills would be considered near the arena.

[RALBOI]

pack-man, on Mar 31 2006, 03:21 PM, said:

good point, but unfortunately that isn't the case.  And now it is time to develop the area intelligently.  It is a great untapped area with enormous potential because of the draws to that area.  More people venture there on any game night then downtown raleigh on any night.  So this area needs to be treated as such.  I wish a smart development such as North Hills would be considered near the arena.

I agree with you 100%,it would be great if this area had a entertainment slash,lifestyle center with a sports theme something like the Marquis that was proposed near I-440 and the Capital blvd years ago that plan fell apart never happened, i no some of you guys remember this proposal

[avery]

http://www.newsobser...ory/452197.html

[yoga]

I'm not sure if I understand this exact location - this is on the south side of 40, is that right?

[avery]

yoga, on Jun 19 2006, 09:34 AM, said:

I'm not sure if I understand this exact location - this is on the south side of 40, is that right?

No. It is on the south side of Wade, just east of the split from I-40 adjacent to the RBC arena.