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[lammius]

SouthJersey7, on Mar 27 2006, 09:06 PM, said:

Man, it looks an awful lot like some of the houses on Mickle Blvd. in Camden City...Eh I'm probably wrong though, I don't know my rows as well as I should  

Nice guess, SJ, but alas no.  

I really don't know Camden very well.  Do they have well-maintained rows ("nice" neighborhoods) there?

This isn't in Camden County.

Edited by lammius, 27 March 2006 - 08:55 PM.

[SouthJersey7]

lammius, on Mar 27 2006, 09:53 PM, said:

Nice guess, SJ, but alas no.  

I really don't know Camden very well.  Do they have well-maintained rows ("nice" neighborhoods) there?

Some are. It's nothing at all like JC or Hoboken, but there's a few well-groomed blocks. Most of them are in the Cooper St- Rutgers campus area. Occupied mostly I think by professors at Rutgers Camden and doctors at Cooper Hospital, as well as other well-todo types. There's maybe about 2 or 3 blocks in the whole city that look like that pic, there's tons of potential though, because they're really sturdy build houses that just need a little TLC.  

[Jerseyman4]

I dont know why im saying this but lets go with Highland Park. 2 blocks off Raritan Ave somewhere. Maybe near Woodbridge Ave, not too far away from the apartments. Hell if i know  

[lammius]

SouthJersey7, on Mar 27 2006, 10:29 PM, said:

Some are. It's nothing at all like JC or Hoboken, but there's a few well-groomed blocks. Most of them are in the Cooper St- Rutgers campus area. Occupied mostly I think by professors at Rutgers Camden and doctors at Cooper Hospital, as well as other well-todo types. There's maybe about 2 or 3 blocks in the whole city that look like that pic, there's tons of potential though, because they're really sturdy build houses that just need a little TLC.  

Cool.  I've been in Camden once and seen plenty of pics.  I admire the potential they have down there and hope that excellent housing stock can be salvaged!  

Back to the photo, nope!  It's not in Middlesex County either!  Recchia was not entirely right, nor entirely wrong with the Philly metro observation.  It depends on how dated your information is...  

^could a clue be any more vague?  lol

[Jerseyman4]

Woodbury, Gloucester County?

[lammius]

No!

This isn't so close to Philly.  Officially it isn't in the Philly CSA, but whether or not it's "really" a part of the Philly region is up for debate.

TAKE one more guess and you might have it MADE.

Edited by lammius, 28 March 2006 - 10:30 PM.

[SouthJersey7]

lammius, on Mar 28 2006, 11:27 PM, said:

No!

This isn't so close to Philly.  Officially it isn't in the Philly CSA, but whether or not it's "really" a part of the Philly region is up for debate.

TAKE one more guess and you might have it MADE.

Ah! Trenton City!  

That's about as much as I can determine. Perhaps someone else can pick up the rest...

[Jerseyman4]

If it happens to be Trenton,

Im gonna guess Laylor or Cass Street near the Waterfront Park (New NJ 29 tunnel)

Also near NJ 129

[lammius]

SJ, very good!  It is indeed Trenton, or as NJers say, "Treh-in"

SouthJersey7 is on the board with 3 pts!      <--Can you give the county for an additional point?

Jerz, it's not all that close to the tunnel.  

Clues: red street signs, LaToya

[Jerseyman4]

Mercer County (thats an easy one)

Trenton is the capital of NJ and is also the county seat of Mercer (do i get points for that?)

Ill give one more guess on its location, iis it up the Fitchway (NJ 29) near Ewing before I-95? Perhaps near Olden Ave?

[lammius]

You get a point for Mercer, that's it!  

The LaToya clue was lost, let's try Tito.  haha.  

I'll reveal the answers this evening.

[lammius]

Jackson Street in the historic Mill Hill neighborhood!

3 points to SouthJersey7 for Trenton!
1 point to Jerseyman4 for Mercer Co!

Tune in next week!

[SouthJersey7]

Just out of curiousity, what are the architectural features that define a Trenton rowhouse? As opposed to a NYC brownstone or Philly type row?

[lammius]

These are gross generalizations but there are basic similarities and differences between the 19th Century rowhouses you'll find in various areas of the Northeast.  This is just based on my own observation and have no academic architectural backing.  

Rowhouses in the NYC area tend to have a bit more dimension on the front face.  Bow windows are common or various types of texture between the parlor and upper floors.  They also tend to have more steps between street level and the parlor floor.  Here's a pic of a typical Brooklyn brownstone...



In North Jersey you see the high parlor floor, but less variation in front face.  There are occasionally arched treatments above the front door, and rarley even above windows.  Most windows tend to appear entirely rectangular.  Here's a pic from Hoboken...



and in Jersey City...

  

In Philly the rowhouses in Old City tend to be closer to the ground.  They have relatively flat front facades.  They are very Federal in their design.  They often include window shutters or and occasionally gables.  



The rowhouses pictured from Trenton seem to blend these characteristics of NYC/NNJ and Phila fairly well.  The entrances are low to the ground like Philly, but their shape and ornamentation are like those seen in Jersey City.  They're quite attractive, IMO.  

There are of course exceptions to these rules, and 20th Century rowhouses developed with different styles entirely.

[lammius]

It's Monday!  Time for Name That Jersey Place, Photo #7!

SCORE RE-CAP:
11 pts Jerseyman4
9 pts tombarnes
8 pts Recchia
6 pts flotown
3 pts SouthJersey7

Available points for this week:
1 point for county, 3 points for town, since it's not ON a street, 5 points for either the nearest street OR nearest transit stop (but not 10 pts for both), +3 pt bonus if you know what used to happen here.

Photo 7:  Good luck!

[Jerseyman4]

Newark, Essex County

Near Penn Station Newark

Near McCarter Highway

[lammius]

Close.

Very close in fact!

But no points!

[Jerseyman4]

Elizabeth, Union County

Near Frelinghuysen Ave

Northeast Corridor

[lammius]

Nope.  Getting colder.  brrrrrrrr.

[Jerseyman4]

Kearney, Hudson County

Near Route 7 (Whitpenn Bridge)

Passaic River