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[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

ct36, on 22 October 2011 - 06:15 AM, said:

There's pretty much no way Perimeter would get one. First, it's way too close to North Point. Next, it would be to close to Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's, their supposedly upscale Dillard's, etc. From what I have heard, Bloomies is struggling at Perimeter. I didn't go in, but I saw hardly any brown bags in the entire mall. That's what happens when you put stores too close together, and especially when both are huge. Nordstrom seems to generally be more popular, and they have smaller stores, with the Phipps store being 135,000 square feet to the Perimeter one at 225,000. Bloomingdale's on the other hand is 280,000 at the Lenox store (if I'm correct) and then 230,000 at Perimeter. The size of the Lenox store probably would be alright, but the Perimeter store should have been smaller. But then, they didn't build the store so there's little they could do about it.
I don't think Belk has opened at Phipps to really compete with the luxury stores. It opened there because Parisian was there, which didn't compete with them either. There's no way to have Bloomingdale's, Nordstrom, Saks Fifth Avenue, and Neiman Marcus less than half of a mile from each other and then have Belk and Macy's almost as upscale as them, because they would carry way too many of the same brands and, even though Belkis "only for poor people", if they had the same brands, chances are it would be cheaper to buy it at Belk. Sadly enough, I think people would rather spend $400 to buy something at Saks, Nordies, etc. than to pay $200 at Belk for the same exact item, just so they don't have to turn into "poor people" to get their designer clothes, handbags, etc. There's only so much Buckhead can have before it's saturated with all of the same stuff, so I understand why Belkis like it is. Chances are that Von Maur wouldn't be much different.

I definitely agree about the Belk thing. It is a really upscale store if you go to the right ones. The SouthPark Belk has brands such as Marc Jacobs, Ferragamo, Michael Kors (shoes, handbags, clothes "ready-to-wear"), Coach, Burberry, St. John, Citizens of Humanity, BCBG, Eileen Fisher, Joe's Jeans, Stuart Weitzman, Kiehl's, etc.
You know the little "in store boutiques" they have inside department stores? Well, Belk created Gucci's. They have a much more rich history than many other stores. Even Haywood's Belk carries about half of those brands.
Belk @ SouthPark also had Charlotte's first Louis Vuitton, and then at one point had Oscar de la Renta, and many more luxury brands until they pulled out for Nordstrom, their own stores, and Neiman Marcus.

Why is it to close to North Point. I think 11 miles is a safe distance. Phipps Plaza is 7 miles from Perimeter Mall, which is 18 miles away from North Point. The Southeastern U.S. "flagship" Macy's is just seven miles from the Perimeter Macy's, which even has a connecting 3 level Store for Homes and is 333,760 sq. feet, and yes Atlanta's "flagship" Dillard's ("supposedly") is at Perimeter Mall. The Macy's at Lenox Square is 433,308 sq. feet, but only spaced 7 miles apart from the Perimeter Macy's. Bloomingdale's at Lenox Square is 274,000 sq. feet on four levels. The Perimeter Mall Bloomingdale's is 222,056 sq. feet, and since that article came out about Bloomingdale's nearly a year ago, changes have been made and Macy's Inc. has said it has no plans to close the Perimeter Mall Bloomingdale's. But since you say ct36 that you only come to Atlanta to shop maybe around 6 times a year, many things can change. I live just 6/10's of a mile in a neighborhood behind Phipps Plaza so I have more exposure to all three of these malls and what is REALLY going on in our city's retail environment. That includes the guy from Milledgeville down in Middle Georgia.
The Phipps Plaza Nordstrom is 153,740 sq. feet, and the Perimeter Mall Nordstrom is 230,000 sq. feet. So our first Von Maur will be 140,000 sq. feet. That is even smaller than the Saks Fifth Avenue at Phipps which is 148,000 sq. feet. So I do not see a problem with Perimeter, because a new wing can be started on the opposite side of the Nordstrom wing, but be longer. It would start out northbound and then curve so that Von Maur would be on the west side. I have seen more things done where space is tight that people said never could be done, and presto, they do it.
The problem with the Belk at Phipps Plaza which is 170,000 sq. feet and a perfect fit for Von Maur,is that many people in this area which as I said in an earlier post above has one of the 10 wealthiest zip codes in the nation, may be shopping at Belk, but it has hurt Phipps Plaza tremendously. The mall is 100% leased except for the two level Belk wing where for example, the entire left side facing Lenox Road is boarded up with drywall except for United Colors of Benetton, and on the right side two retailers have been lost. This space would probably rent in a flash if it were a Von Maur, and probably to several upscale or even luxury retailers, most of which have chosen Lenox Square over Phipps Plaza because they have openly said that they do not want to be on "That Belk Wing." So people in North Atlanta do not have the familarity to Belk that Charlotte does. Many Atlantans that live in Buckhead, which has one of the 10 wealthiest zip codes in the nation, and tourist see this as what they have heard, that it is a low end department store and only the trailer park trash shop there.
And once again ct36, if you are so happy with South Park, why not stay there, and not even make your trips to Atlanta where as a teenager you claim to shop in some of the most luxury oriented retailers for your ready-to-wear and accessories. I just wonder where is a 15 year old high school kid getting all this money to spend, except maybe mommy and daddy?

Edited by Kenneth Disraili-Jean, 22 October 2011 - 12:19 PM.

[Mellophonius]

Kenneth Disraili-Jean, on 22 October 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

This space would probably rent in a flash if it were a Von Maur, and probably to several upscale or even luxury retailers, most of which have chosen Lenox Square over Phipps Plaza because they have openly said that they do not want to be on "That Belk Wing." So people in North Atlanta do not have the familarity to Belk that Charlotte does. Many Atlantans that live in Buckhead, which has one of the 10 wealthiest zip codes in the nation, and tourist see this as what they have heard, that it is a low end department store and only the trailer park trash shop there.

The only reason people believe that is because that misrepresentation is being perpetuated and repeated. If people just go in there and look around, they'll realize they're wrong about the place.

Kenneth Disraili-Jean, on 22 October 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

And once again ct36, if you are so happy with South Park, why not stay there, and not even make your trips to Atlanta where as a teenager you claim to shop in some of the most luxury oriented retailers for your ready-to-wear and accessories. I just wonder where is a 15 year old high school kid getting all this money to spend, except maybe mommy and daddy?

You seriously need to stop being so rude to this guy. Rudeness delegitimizes your argument. No one (myself included) will be inclined to take you seriously if you spend your time being rude to people. I didn't see you defend against his statements concerning Belk's high-end brands, or the in-store Gucci boutique, or anything else. Your opposition to Belk can be boiled down to a simple statement: "Rich people don't like Belk because they think only poor people shop there." Trust me, if Belk didn't think they could do well at Phipps, they would have closed the location rather than make it a flagship store. Yes, image is important and I do believe Belk should have used a different name for their high-end stores, but the people in "one of the 10 wealthiest zip codes in the nation" just need to be a little more open-minded and go see the Phipps Belk for themselves.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

Look Mellophonius or whatever you damn name is. You need to stay out of that issue with ct36. He has showed his real side more than one time, in fact, I have quit counting. It all started when Dolce&Gabbana quoted him calling "Lenox Square a dump", then he changes it after it has already been quoted and says he does not mean that, and then starts babbling about the floor tile not matching. I tried to explain that is the mid 90's the mixture of drywall, then a section that looked industrial was popular for that time and the architects delivered on what Corporate Property Investers of New York wanted, since they owned Lenox Square, and we the shoppers had no say so, then in 1998 Simon bought Lenox Square from CPI, and Phipps Plaza from the Equitable RIET, when the Equitable Life Assurance Society of The United States was still in existance before an Austrailian Insurance Company named Axxis bought the Equitable. The sale of both of these malls totaled $ 1.7 Billion, one of the largest mall(s) purchaces ever.
ct36 follows me around like he is stalking me, just to see if he can throw in a negative or smart alec comment, and I really am getting tired of this. If he leaves me alone fine, if not, then my next conversation will be with Neo.

Edited by Kenneth Disraili-Jean, 23 October 2011 - 10:24 AM.

[ct36]

Kenneth Disraili-Jean, on 23 October 2011 - 10:17 AM, said:

Look Mellophonius or whatever you damn name is. You need to stay out of that issue with ct36. He has showed his real side more than one time, in fact, I have quit counting. It all started when Dolce&Gabbana quoted him calling "Lenox Square a dump", then he changes it after it has already been quoted and says he does not mean that, and then starts babbling about the floor tile not matching. I tried to explain that is the mid 90's the mixture of drywall, then a section that looked industrial was popular for that time and the architects delivered on what Corporate Property Investers of New York wanted, since they owned Lenox Square, and we the shoppers had no say so, then in 1998 Simon bought Lenox Square from CPI, and Phipps Plaza from the Equitable RIET, when the Equitable Life Assurance Society of The United States was still in existance before an Austrailian Insurance Company named Axxis bought the Equitable. The sale of both of these malls totaled $ 1.7 Billion, one of the largest mall(s) purchaces ever.
ct36 follows me around like he is stalking me, just to see if he can throw in a negative or smart alec comment, and I really am getting tired of this. If he leaves me alone fine, if not, then my next conversation will be with Neo.

I'm sorry. It's obviously that I am not welcome here. I'm sorry you refuse to be friends and make me seem so bad. Also, I am sorry that you think that I try to stalk you (which is obviously not the case), or make a "negative or smart alec comment". The post did not go through, so I made a different one and realized I was being too hard on Lenox. But it was too late. I'm sorry that I ever trusted you or even became friends with you at one point if you want to act like this. I'm definitely not stalking you though considering I really don't like you. Atlanta is a nice place. and I do like Lenox. Can you please find where I was being rude or negative? Because I can only seem to find one, which didn't appear to go through. So, naturally, I just assume that it will not be posted and forget about it.

Mellphonius:
Thanks and I agree with you 100%. I will miss having any more chances to talk to you.

Edited by ct36, 23 October 2011 - 08:15 PM.

[Mellophonius]

Kenneth Disraili-Jean, on 23 October 2011 - 10:17 AM, said:

Look Mellophonius or whatever you damn name is. You need to stay out of that issue with ct36. He has showed his real side more than one time, in fact, I have quit counting.

ct36 follows me around like he is stalking me, just to see if he can throw in a negative or smart alec comment, and I really am getting tired of this. If he leaves me alone fine, if not, then my next conversation will be with Neo.

I haven't seen anything to suggest he's stalking you or throwing in negative comments. In fact, in this conversation I've seen more negativity from you than anyone else. If you weren't so harsh on him there wouldn't be an "issue." You both are obviously interested in retail, urban development, and the other topics of this forum, so why can't you just get along and respect each other's opinions? Whether or not he called Lenox a "dump" is irrelevant. He should be able to call it whatever he wants. Your explanation about the technical history behind Lenox's appearance is also irrelevant. Sure, it justifies your opinion on the place, but that doesn't mean no one can have a differing opinion. You need to stop being so harsh on people with differing opinions.

ct36, on 23 October 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

I'm sorry. It's obviously that I am not welcome here. I'm sorry you refuse to be friends and make me seem so bad. Also, I am sorry that you think that I try to stalk you (which is obviously not the case), or make a "negative or smart alec comment". The post did not go through, so I made a different one and realized I was being too hard on Lenox. But it was too late. I'm sorry that I ever trusted you or even became friends with you at one point if you want to act like this. I'm definitely not stalking you though considering I really don't like you. Atlanta is a nice place. and I do like Lenox. Can you please find where I was being rude or negative? Because I can only seem to find one, which didn't appear to go through. So, naturally, I just assume that it will not be posted and forget about it.

Mellphonius:
Thanks and I agree with you 100%. I will miss having any more chances to talk to you.

Thank you, and don't let this guy chase you away from this forum. Just ignore him if he keeps getting onto you.

Edited by Mellophonius, 24 October 2011 - 12:15 AM.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

You know, now it seems everyone is ganging up on me, but ct36 has made some mistakes, you have made some mistakes Mellophonium, but then so have I. I have been thinking about this for some time now and I guess I was just hurt that my friend ct36 would dis Lenox Square. It has its pluses and minuses like any other retail center. I thought I would never do this but here goes:
ct, I am sorry for all the things I said that might have made you angry or hurt with me. I know you are very knowledgeable in retail and I am amazed that you know about what I did when I was your age. We had a super friendship going, and we both were wrong in some of the things we posted. I am going to look in the front windshield and drive forward and never look back into the rearview mirror. I feel as human beings we all deserve a second chance, so I welcome your friendship, and I want to be friends with you again, and I will add you to my friends list, and I hope you will do the same. You really are a cool guy ct!!
And Mellophonius, I am also sorry if I said anything that made you angry, upset, or even said anything that was hurtfull. I would like to call you a friend to, and yes I am one of the ones that has seen the Phipps Plaza Belk, and actually like the company. It is not Belk's fault that all that boarded up space is sitting there on the belk wing. That is a problem with Simon Properties and their leasing department. I actually do quite a bit of shopping at the Belk at The Shoppes At River Crossing when I travel down to Macon to see my brother, and I also feel more comfortable in Belk there than I do the Dillard's store. So if it is ok, I will also add you as a friend. You somehow helped me to open up my mind and see some things in me that I did not even know. Maybe I should quit hanging out so much with some of my stuck up Buckhead friends.
My brother in Macon graduated from college in Millegeville and it has some of the most beautiful mansions I have ever seen. Now can we all just start over and be friends? ct, I am sorry I let you down, it will not happen again, I promise.

[george]

though i was going to have open a can on all three of you.

[ct36]

I'm really happy to hear that! I am sorry for the negative things that I said and am extremely happy to be friends with you again! I'm very grateful that you decided to give me a second chance and I will definitely forgive you and I'm very glad that you forgave me!

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

Oh ct, I am so happy!!! I sure have missed your friendship!! You are really cool and we do indeed know our retail. So thanks ct, and from now on if there is an issue, we will use the PM system and resolve it then and there. Good friendships are hard to come by these days, so I will not ever act like this again. I was in a lot of emotional pain having to strike back at you, when I really did not want to. I am so glad this boulder has been lifted!!! Thank you for your friendship ct, I will not let you down again!

Thank you George for caring about us, we are greatful. Oh, that reminds me, my brother took a photo of Parisian and part of the mall being demolished. I will try to post it in the Macon Mall thread tomorrow.

[ct36]

I hope we don't, either!
I saw the video on a (Macon news) website of the Belk at River Crossing a few years ago and it's really nice!
The Belk in Asheville has been renovated on level one and now has a huge women's shoe department. Oddly enough, I think it feels about the same size or even larger than the shoe department at Belk SouthPark (336,000 square feet) and even Macy's at Lenox (433,000 square feet), and it's just 156,000 square feet
Anyways, I would love to see:
The roof resurfaced or something in the Plaza part of the mall
New flooring throughout the mall
A complete new food court
Have the back part of the mall near Bloomingdale's that looks old match the front of the mall.
Lenox has great stores but it isn't the most attractive mall I've ever been to (that would be the Mall at Millenia). But considering how much money it makes and how nice the stores are it's a shame that Simon doesn't invest any money in it anymore. I think after 5 years of pretty much no renovations and A LOT of luxury store opening, 2012 will see a Lenox Renovation

Perimeter:
New flooring
The exterior of the mall looks old. It reminds me of Haywood mall from the way it looks, but Perimeter looks better on the exterior (only from the lifestyle center, Nordstrom, and Dillard's) but the interior looks better at Haywood IMO. I have no idea why, but Perimeter used to have nice hardwood on level 2  (in the main part of the mall, saw an older picture, at least I think)  but in March when I went it had been replaced with carpet! I mean carpet is nice in hotel hallways and such but I just don't like them in a mall.

I don't think they should put a Sears at the Mall of Georgia, though. The Gwinnett Place store is doing well I've heard, so I don't want that mall to be killed off. Besides, Sears as a company has been doing very poorly. The only time I've actually seen more than 10 people in the entire store in Asheville or at the Haywood Mall was only Black Friday last year. Every other time, even tax free weekend, there were less than that. But then again, I'm only in Sears for maybe twice a year.  The problem is that you can buy better or similar products everywhere else in the mall, Best Buy, etc. TBH there's hardly a reason for anyone to go there anymore. It's sad because the people who work there are always really nice, so I'd hate to see them out of a job. They kind of set themselves up for failure though building all those huge stores (our Sears is 225,000 square feet.....and never has more than 10 people normally).

Edited by ct36, 24 October 2011 - 06:52 PM.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

Yes ct I agree with all of your observations in regards to Lenox Square and Perimeter Mall.
I might be wrong, but it seems like all the future plans for Lenox came from the previous owner, Corporate Property Investors of New York, then Simon bought it and all they have done is add that little 33,000 sq. foot addition to the mall. Of course this also gave Neiman Marcus a chance to enlarge their store to 205,000 sq. feet. But this is all Simon has done. Now Lenox looks like any other Simon mall in Anywhere U.S.A.
Yes, they need to tear that awful looking roof off and do a complete redue of the ceiling applications, the drywall and granite should preside over the entire mall. Plaza Court needs to be demolished, but still stay 3 levels, but constructed where as on level one, also on level two you can continue throughout the entire mall instead of running into a dead end at Bloomingdales. Level one of course would remain the food court and the back is almost entirely the new 21 Forever.
Phipps has not had a renovation since 1992, so you have that "Titanic or Antebellum Plantation" look instead of a modern upscale luxury look. But once again, when Simon bought Phipps Plaza, they have yet to make any changes to it. And I do not think it is Belk's fault that the Belk wing has rows and rows of drywall up. It is a leasing issue and it is Simon's fault for not giving that wing the attention it deserves.
Perimeter Mall was owned by the Rouse Company, and they took good care of the mall. They are the company that added the lifestyle entrance to Perimeter and most likely had the wood flooring that you liked. Then OMG!!!, here comes General Growth Properties, and no wonder they went through a bankruptcy, they do not take care of some of the properties like they should.
What we should do, is find a rich Arabic friend, get a loan, and you and I will buy Lenox, Phipps, Perimeter, and North Point and renovate everything, and show these idiots how things should be done. I can see it now: CT Kenneth & Co.

Edited by Kenneth Disraili-Jean, 25 October 2011 - 04:24 PM.

[ct36]

Kenneth Disraili-Jean, on 25 October 2011 - 04:17 PM, said:

Yes ct I agree with all of your observations in regards to Lenox Square and Perimeter Mall.
I might be wrong, but it seems like all the future plans for Lenox came from the previous owner, Corporate Property Investors of New York, then Simon bought it and all they have done is add that little 33,000 sq. foot addition to the mall. Of course this also gave Neiman Marcus a chance to enlarge their store to 205,000 sq. feet. But this is all Simon has done. Now Lenox looks like any other Simon mall in Anywhere U.S.A.
Yes, they need to tear that awful looking roof off and do a complete redue of the ceiling applications, the drywall and granite should preside over the entire mall. Plaza Court needs to be demolished, but still stay 3 levels, but constructed where as on level one, also on level two you can continue throughout the entire mall instead of running into a dead end at Bloomingdales. Level one of course would remain the food court and the back is almost entirely the new 21 Forever.
Phipps has not had a renovation since 1992, so you have that "Titanic or Antebellum Plantation" look instead of a modern upscale luxury look. But once again, when Simon bought Phipps Plaza, they have yet to make any changes to it. And I do not think it is Belk's fault that the Belk wing has rows and rows of drywall up. It is a leasing issue and it is Simon's fault for not giving that wing the attention it deserves.
Perimeter Mall was owned by the Rouse Company, and they took good care of the mall. They are the company that added the lifestyle entrance to Perimeter and most likely had the wood flooring that you liked. Then OMG!!!, here comes General Growth Properties, and no wonder they went through a bankruptcy, they do not take care of some of the properties like they should.
What we should do, is find a rich Arabic friend, get a loan, and you and I will buy Lenox, Phipps, Perimeter, and North Point and renovate everything, and show these idiots how things should be done. I can see it now: CT Kenneth & Co.

Simon is a good company, but they seem to care more about money than creating true quality properties. My favorite mall property owner is The Forbes Company (owner of The Mall at Millenia, Palm Beach Gardens, Waterside Shoppes, and Somerset Collection in MI).
All of their malls are extremely nice and new looking, contemporary, and best of all: no cheap kiosks!
They did nothing to SouthPark except a 20,000 square foot expansion and Neiman Marcus, so they actually did pretty good there, but they could still add more.
The roof looks like Walmart, Lowe's, etc. and does not belong in a luxury mall at all! Haha.
I've noticed that the escalators are very busy down there because there are a lot of people who go from the food court to the mall and having to go up 2 levels takes a while so the line gets longer.
Phipps looks really nice, but it needs a renovation also. I would love to see really big, glossy (and shiny), cream-ish colored tiles in either Lenox or Phipps or both malls. It's a very contemporary but classy look.

Perimeter should have the same tile that they have on level one (in the main wing) throughout the mall. Other than that, the mall looks fine on the interior but the exterior is still old-looking. I just can't understand why they would replace nice hardwood with crappy carpet? Ugh.

That sounds really awesome! You know, even crappy malls can spend more than their worth and turn it around to being the area's luxury mall, as long as it's in a good area.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

I like the cream color you are talking about ct, and since Lenox and Phipps are technically on the same campus, I have looked and a diagonal tunnel connecting both malls would not really be that hard to do. I think Lenox and its little sister Phipps should look identical, like an extension from one into the other. They could even take the Crate&Barrel space on level one and make some changes and create a new grand entrance, and then lure in a luxury specialty department store like Barney's, but I will have to sit at my drafting board and draw up this idea to see if it would work.
And what about the roof at Perimeter, I do not like what is on the Nordstrom wing. For some reason it reminds me of a boat  with those large square windows. Yes, once again it needs new ceiling and skylight treatments, new flooring that matches on both levels throughout the mall, and new hand railing. I also do not like those hanging light fixtures with the covers over the light bulbs hanging down from the ceiling. ( I might be to picky ct) and last but not least, place escalators just before each court and tear down those stairs.  Now for Phipps, I know to be careful because all the Italian flooring was hand cut and hand laid by the construction workers in 1992. But the dark wood needs to go and be replaced with that cream or white marble, where on the second level you can look down and see the first level. Replace that with that special hard-stick glue around the openings and all the columns themselves, but instead of circular, make the columns all rectangular, get rid of the brass torch lamps and replace them with stainless steel, also the new handrail treatments would have virtical stainless steel rising from the bottom to the top eliminating the brass. Get rid of the hanging fixtures on level one with a more modern/luxury type of lighting application. In the Court Of The South change the circular dome to a square and add new lighting also. That area is very dark in the mall. Also in that court add more water features and get rid of the "Tara Plantation Mansion" staircase and put in escalators. Add escalators as soon as you leave Court Of The South and start heading to Monach Court. And like I said Lenox would have the exact matching applications throughout the mall. You know ct, I just thought of something. Put a light cream or white marble in Lenox and Phipps and take the Itailian marble that is in Phipps and put that on both levels of Perimeter, and if  we run out, we will give the company (hopefully the one that origionally installed the flooring at Phipps) the specifications and presto all problems solved except for the Belk wing leasing issues at Phipps, but then we have four malls that would be under new ownership of the retail division of CT Kenneth & Co. hahaha!!!!

Edited by Kenneth Disraili-Jean, 26 October 2011 - 10:30 AM.

[ct36]

Sounds great! I do agree that it should be more like one mall (like King of Prussia). The entrance to Lenox is nice, but a grand entrance would be perfect! I don't really like the light fixtures and skylights, etc. at Perimeter either. Basically I think Lenox should look very similar to the Mall of America's newly renovated wing:

The flooring is awesome and I absolutely adore the Swarovski crystal chandelier thing in the middle. Haha. I think that the Court of The South is way too dark as well. Isn't there only like one light? Haha the luxury looking chandelier, while nice, is a little dated.

[dusty87]

So has anyone been inside Von Maur yet? What's it like? I've seen photos and browsed what they sell online and it appears to be a nice store, falling somewhere between Nordstrom and Macy's/Dillard's(never mind Dillards trashy rep back out west where I from in CO/NM/AZ) with an in-store pianist! Sounds like a fun shopping experience

[ct36]

dusty87, on 10 November 2011 - 11:35 PM, said:

So has anyone been inside Von Maur yet? What's it like? I've seen photos and browsed what they sell online and it appears to be a nice store, falling somewhere between Nordstrom and Macy's/Dillard's(never mind Dillards trashy rep back out west where I from in CO/NM/AZ) with an in-store pianist! Sounds like a fun shopping experience

It seems nice, but not really very comparable to Nordstrom. Some merchandise is like Nordstrom, but Nordstrom stores are much, much more attractive. I wish Belk were more like it, but not like their website.

[DOLCE&GABBANA]

I see ct36 is playing victim and if the posters who are taking up for him and have followed him they would know that everytime he gets on its the same negative comments. First it started with abercrombie and lacoste  beinlacoste. Then he kept pushing the issue with this Gilly Hicks. Then he started talking about how ghetto the shoppers where at lenox compared to Southpark. Then they started talking talking consistently about how outdated the mall is.. At the end of the day the mall is still attracting retailers hell Prada just opened..  Look at Northpark Mall I'm Dallas its not updated either but that doesn't stop the customers and retailers from locating in the mall.. Southpark mall must not be all that great Carolina resident s still pop up to our outdated mall every weekend.  Now I can post.   The smart remark that he has made about Lenox and its customers.

[ct36]

DOLCE&GABBANA, on 26 December 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

I see ct36 is playing victim and if the posters who are taking up for him and have followed him they would know that everytime he gets on its the same negative comments. First it started with abercrombie and lacoste  beinlacoste. Then he kept pushing the issue with this Gilly Hicks. Then he started talking about how ghetto the shoppers where at lenox compared to Southpark. Then they started talking talking consistently about how outdated the mall is.. At the end of the day the mall is still attracting retailers hell Prada just opened..  Look at Northpark Mall I'm Dallas its not updated either but that doesn't stop the customers and retailers from locating in the mall.. Southpark mall must not be all that great Carolina resident s still pop up to our outdated mall every weekend.  Now I can post.   The smart remark that he has made about Lenox and its customers.

I haven't said anything like that in months. Everyone is over that now. Kenneth and I are now friends. I would love to be your friend also if you decide to let it go!

[Mellophonius]

DOLCE&GABBANA, on 26 December 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

I see ct36 is playing victim and if the posters who are taking up for him and have followed him they would know that everytime he gets on its the same negative comments. First it started with abercrombie and lacoste  beinlacoste. Then he kept pushing the issue with this Gilly Hicks. Then he started talking about how ghetto the shoppers where at lenox compared to Southpark. Then they started talking talking consistently about how outdated the mall is.. At the end of the day the mall is still attracting retailers hell Prada just opened..  Look at Northpark Mall I'm Dallas its not updated either but that doesn't stop the customers and retailers from locating in the mall.. Southpark mall must not be all that great Carolina resident s still pop up to our outdated mall every weekend.  Now I can post.   The smart remark that he has made about Lenox and its customers.

Uhh... don't you think you're a little late? Like, two months late?

[ct36]

Great news for Northpoint!

• New, one level (12 screen) movie theatre for former Parisian space.
  
• Michael Kors
  
• Lego
  
• Relocated Mayor's Jewelers

This is a great step in the right direction. Mall of Georgia has always been ahead, and IMO still is, but less now. It is newer, nicer looking, has Nordstrom, but NP isn't too far behind.
It definitely distinguishes itself from Town Center at Cobb. One day, I think that eventually NorthPoint will evolve into something like Mall of Georgia, and Mall of Georgia will evolve into something more like Perimeter (upscale), but still larger and more of a "mega-mall". Kind of like a mini Mall of America I suppose. Hopefully Lenox will evolve to be something like Houston Galleria (it already is, just with less upscale stores and smaller), just larger and more upscale, I suppose. Phipps I'm not sure about, but I'm hoping that the Saks/Nordstrom wings will become even more upscale and the Belk wing will just be kind of a midscale/more upscale children's stores and moderate price stores that aren't at Lenox, etc. Like maybe move Coldwater Creek, etc. to the Belk wing and put boutiques there or something.