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[babiko]

Here are some renderings for Patrick Henry Place....which used to be called Patrick Henry Marketplace, but since the big box retail component has been phased out, and the project itself now is mixed-use, they have given it a new name....It definitely looks very nice and impressive

http://www.clinedesi...xed&EntryID=116

[vdogg]

babiko, on Mar 5 2006, 03:57 PM, said:

Here are some renderings for Patrick Henry Place....which used to be called Patrick Henry Marketplace, but since the big box retail component has been phased out, and the project itself now is mixed-use, they have given it a new name....It definitely looks very nice and impressive

http://www.clinedesi...xed&EntryID=116

Oh my lord! I had no idea. That is quite an impressive project. This is getting its own thread, stand by. Great find by the way.   I actually drove by the site the other day and I was like "there's no way anything good will be put in this location". It just didn't have that town center feel. I must say that I am pleasantly surprised.

[vdogg]

[vdogg]

Props for the future light rail station and future transit parking.    

edit: I wonder how this is gonna affect City Center and Peninsula Town Center? I hope they don't eat eachothers lunch.  

[rusthebuss]

vdogg, on Mar 5 2006, 05:04 PM, said:

Props for the future light rail station and future transit parking.    

edit: I wonder how this is gonna affect City Center and Peninsula Town Center? I hope they don't eat eachothers lunch.  

Wow that is an impressive project! This should be good for the city of Newport News!

[vdogg]

rusthebuss, on Mar 5 2006, 05:07 PM, said:

Wow that is an impressive project! This should be good for the city of Newport News!

Especially if they take light rail and connect it to city center, downtown, and eventually to Norfolk.  

[rusthebuss]

vdogg, on Mar 5 2006, 05:08 PM, said:

Especially if they take light rail and connect it to city center, downtown, and eventually to Norfolk.  

That's the only way that Light rail will work for us is to connect both sides of the metro. I emailed the lady at HRT that handles LR and she said they are in the early stages. About the same stage that Norfolk was in about 10 years ago.

[vdogg]

rusthebuss, on Mar 5 2006, 05:14 PM, said:

About the same stage that Norfolk was in about 10 years ago.

So perhaps when I'm in my late 30's i'll be able to take light rail from the peninsula to the southside. At least it's something to look forward to.  

[rusthebuss]

vdogg, on Mar 5 2006, 05:21 PM, said:

So perhaps when I'm in my late 30's i'll be able to take light rail from the peninsula to the southside. At least it's something to look forward to.  

Well it might not take as long with Norfolk getting a starter track rolling.

[juancapitalcitydc]

wow---awesome project!  It even includes accomodations for light rail.  We'll see how fast or slow it takes for light rail to materialize.  I'm just glad to see that it is a reality.  We'll see who gets a "functioning" light rail line up first, Norfolk or NEWPORT NEWS!

[rusthebuss]

juancapitalcitydc, on Mar 5 2006, 06:22 PM, said:

We'll see who gets a "functioning" light rail line up first, Norfolk or NEWPORT NEWS!

There is no way Newport News would get a functioning light rail before Norfolk. Really that doesn't matter because in order for LR to work it would have to be between both southside and pennisula. Newport News is a cool place and it reminds me of Norfolk.

Edited by rusthebuss, 05 March 2006 - 05:29 PM.

[juancapitalcitydc]

rusthebuss, on Mar 5 2006, 06:28 PM, said:

There is no way Newport News would get a functioning light rail before Norfolk. Really that doesn't matter because in order for LR to work it would have to be between both southside and pennisula. Newport News is a cool place and it reminds me of Norfolk.

We'll see.  Wouldn't that be a shame for Norfolk if NN gets light rail up first.  I think there would be some private investing for NN's light rail while Norfolk is all government funded.  I'm not sure, that's just an assumption. It's all up in the air, until I see something under construction.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Edited by juancapitalcitydc, 06 March 2006 - 01:31 PM.

[vdogg]

juancapitalcitydc, on Mar 6 2006, 02:29 PM, said:

We'll see.  Wouldn't that be a shame for Norfolk if NN gets light rail up first.  I think there would be some private investing for NN's light rail while Norfolk is all government funded.  I'm not sure, that's just an assumption. It's all up in the air, until I see something under construction.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

While this isn't the thread for this discussion Norfolks light rail plan is a bit past "up in the air". You're right though, any miriad of disasters could happen between now and then to kill this thing but it is a fact that every city that has reached Norfolks stage in this process has had their system built except 2. The two who didn't pulled out of their own accord, not because the government cancelled it.

[urbanvb]

This really is a great looking project. I love how the project is so very urban yet it has plenty of open space as well. It all seems to have a very cohesive feel to it. Way to go!

[juancapitalcitydc]

urbanvb, on Mar 6 2006, 07:14 PM, said:

This really is a great looking project. I love how the project is so very urban yet it has plenty of open space as well. It all seems to have a very cohesive feel to it. Way to go!

They don't look cheap either, that's a good thing!  When I saw those condos going up off Rt 64 in Hampton, in the coliseum area, I cried.  They are the cheapest buildings I've ever seen in my life, and showcased there for every resident and tourist to see, right off 64.  Thus far, nothing in NN has been built remotely as cheap as those, and I'd like to keep it that way.  Not to mention that depressing convention center, I call it a TENT!  Hampton is so desperate for development they'll let anything be built.  I wouldn't put this in the Hampton Forum Vdogg, I wouldn't want to hurt any one's feelings.

[erdogs]

juancapitalcitydc, on Mar 6 2006, 08:59 PM, said:

They don't look cheap either, that's a good thing!  When I saw those condos going up off Rt 64 in Hampton, in the coliseum area, I cried.  They are the cheapest buildings I've ever seen in my life, and showcased there for every resident and tourist to see, right off 64.  Thus far, nothing in NN has been built remotely as cheap as those, and I'd like to keep it that way.  Not to mention that depressing convention center, I call it a TENT!  Hampton is so desperate for development they'll let anything be built.  I wouldn't put this in the Hampton Forum Vdogg, I wouldn't want to hurt any one's feelings.

Stop holding back, tell us what you really think.

[vdogg]

juancapitalcitydc, on Mar 6 2006, 08:59 PM, said:

I wouldn't put this in the Hampton Forum Vdogg, I wouldn't want to hurt any one's feelings.

Then perhaps we should be considerate and not attack others cities. I'm sure if I said the same thing about Newport News you'd be raising hell right now. There are ways to express pride in your city without making degrading remarks about other cities.

[johnhowell]

The areas along Jefferson Avenue from the intersection of J Clyde all the way up to Denbeigh have seen a lot of development in the last few years.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if Newport News has a population of 200,000 or greater by the 2010 census.

Edited by johnhowell, 06 March 2006 - 09:57 PM.

[juancapitalcitydc]

vdogg, on Mar 6 2006, 09:43 PM, said:

Then perhaps we should be considerate and not attack others cities. I'm sure if I said the same thing about Newport News you'd be raising hell right now. There are ways to express pride in your city without making degrading remarks about other cities.

I'm not particularly sensitive to criticism. My intent wasn't to express pride; it was to express my disappointment in Hampton. I love downtown Hampton though!  I would love to see a tower rise there.  But, I guess you're right.  Shame on me.  

[babiko]

There has been a great amount of development on Jefferson Ave from J Clyde to points north, with retail, office and residential components.  Do not forget that Villages of Stony Run, another mixed use project is in the building phase right now on the corner of Denbigh and Jefferson.

Hopefully, the city will start turning its attention to Jefferson Ave south of J Clyde, which has sort of become a demarcation line between the older and newer sections of the city.   The area of Jefferson between J Clyde and Mercury has many run down parts, used auto stores, and on overall unkempt apperance.  The neighborhoods bordering this corridor are for the most part good, solid working middle class areas, thus it is important for the city to invest in this area.  Hopefully this area will see some positive spin off from all of the economic developments elsewhere in the city.

As for population, I am still skeptical of 200,000 by 2010.  maybe between 190,000 and 195,000