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[perimeter285]

That rendering almost looks they are going for an homage to the old, now-demolished, airport concourse from the 1960's and 70's.  

A Blockbuster in the airport is pretty brilliant if you ask me!

[Martinman]

I'm sure everyone has probably seen it by now but here's a pic from Wikipedia of Delta's remodeled ticketing area.

[Martinman]

Its Official: Feds Approve Delta-Northwest merger

The new airline has domestic hubs in Atlanta, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Salt Lake City, Detroit, Memphis and New York City. It has international hubs in Amsterdam and Tokyo.

The combined airline has about 75,000 employees, serves 375 cities in 66 countries and about 170 million passengers a year. It creates a company with a combined enterprise value of $17.7 billion, which expects to have annual revenue of $35 billion.


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[j.midtown]

The new Maynard H. Jackson International Terminal appears to be in danger of substantial delays - a casualty of the current financial market economics that have made borrowing very difficult.  According to an AJC article the airport has been unable to sell $600M in bonds needed to move forward despite an A+ debt rating.

[Martinman]

That would suck, especially for Delta as they continue their international expansion.  Recently announced routes from Atlanta include exotic destinations such as Monrovia-Liberia, Kuwait City-Kuwait, Cape Town-South Africa, and Nairobi-Kenya.

Delta's current International routes from Atlanta

Edited by Martinman, 15 November 2008 - 01:53 PM.

[j.midtown]

HJAIA officials have announced 10 'resolutions' for the coming year to improve the airport including improved security screening, a website re-design, 70 new retailers opened by mid-year, new art, improved landscaping, a comprehensive recycling program, and a November opening of the Consolidated Rental Car Facility.

[Lady Celeste]

The Good......

For the fourth year in a row, Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport has been named as the world's busiest airport in terms of both take offs and landings (operations) and passengers. The FAA’s Airport Operations Ranking Report shows Hartsfield-Jackson completed 978,084 operations for 2008 -- down 1.3 percent from 2007.

The Not So Good But Could Be Worse....

Delta is making cuts to it's Atlanta to Mumbai route. Delta said in a statement it would reduce its daily Mumbai service to five times weekly from April to October. Reasons sited were a chill in the international economy. Atlanta is still one of the world's most connected cities so we can try to look at this as a positive.

[adelosky]

Lady Celeste, on Jan 22 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

The Good......

For the fourth year in a row, Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport has been named as the world's busiest airport in terms of both take offs and landings (operations) and passengers. The FAA’s Airport Operations Ranking Report shows Hartsfield-Jackson completed 978,084 operations for 2008 -- down 1.3 percent from 2007.

I always feel like this is such a misleading number because Atlanta only has one airport - of course it's going to be busy.  Does anyone have numbers for "Total passengers served" per city?  I mean take Chicago's or Dallas' or New York's main airports and add up the flights and what do those numbers look like?

[A2]

adelosky, on Jan 23 2009, 08:28 AM, said:

I always feel like this is such a misleading number because Atlanta only has one airport - of course it's going to be busy.  Does anyone have numbers for "Total passengers served" per city?  I mean take Chicago's or Dallas' or New York's main airports and add up the flights and what do those numbers look like?

As for total passengers O'Hare had just over 74.9M passengers served (2007 Stats), while Hartsfield clocked in over 92.6M. Midway served around 18M passengers in 2007. You would have to add both passenger counts of both O'Hare and Midway to get the numbers that Hartsfield serves as a single entity.

As for NYC, ALL airports  in their metro including JFK, LaGuardia, and Newark, served 107M in total (07' stats). So it would take all of the aiports in NYC to get close to the same number that Hartsfield does in one year. (and remember that is Three MAJOR airports vs. One)

Dallas is not even close, with only 56M Passengers served.

As for additional airports in the city of ATL, there are many.

Dekalb-Peachtree Airport is the 2nd busiest in the state of GA (including Macon, Savannah, and Columbus). That is VERY impressive when you consider the scope and size of the world's busiest airport is right down the street.  

Outside of Hartsfield and Dekalb Peachtree, there are many other smaller ones. These are some that I know of, partly because my Dad used to be a pilot. (I might be missing one or two other private ones, so please  anyone that knows please feel free to edit my list):

Dobbins Air Reserve Base (Atlanta Naval Air Station) (KMGE)***
Fulton County Airport at Charlie Brown Field (KFTY)
McCollum Field (KRYY)
Briscoe Field (KLZU)
Cartersville Airport (KVPC)
Mathis Airport (GA27)
Stoney Point Airfield — private (6GA0)
Air Acres Airport — private (5GA4)
Holly Farm Airport — private (3GE9)

***Another amazing fact:
Dobbins Air Reserve Base is the largest multi-service reserve training base in the world. Another honor I am sure even most educated Atlantans fail to note.

So before you suggest that ATL is a one trick pony, it pays to know that there are many more airports in the region.

Again, I am not trying to be a cheerleader for Hartsfield, but I just want to make sure that you are aware that the size and scope of Hartsfield is HUGE.




A2

Edited by A2, 24 January 2009 - 12:54 AM.

[Lady Celeste]

Great post A2. I hear that arguement all the time when Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport is designated as the world's busiest. I am so glad that you took the time to add the numbers up...because when you do, you see that the whole arguement about "well thats just one airport, what about all the airports in metro NYC" just doesn't fly...excuse the pun. Even more amazing is the fact that in sheer size, I would imagine that ATL is not even in the top four largest in terms of size. To handle such volume in such a limited space is a testament to efficiency.

[adelosky]

A2, on Jan 24 2009, 01:11 AM, said:

As for total passengers O'Hare had just over 74.9M passengers served (2007 Stats), while Hartsfield clocked in over 92.6M. Midway served around 18M passengers in 2007. You would have to add both passenger counts of both O'Hare and Midway to get the numbers that Hartsfield serves as a single entity.

As for NYC, ALL airports  in their metro including JFK, LaGuardia, and Newark, served 107M in total (07' stats). So it would take all of the aiports in NYC to get close to the same number that Hartsfield does in one year. (and remember that is Three MAJOR airports vs. One)

Dallas is not even close, with only 56M Passengers served.

As for additional airports in the city of ATL, there are many.

Dekalb-Peachtree Airport is the 2nd busiest in the state of GA (including Macon, Savannah, and Columbus). That is VERY impressive when you consider the scope and size of the world's busiest airport is right down the street.  

Outside of Hartsfield and Dekalb Peachtree, there are many other smaller ones. These are some that I know of, partly because my Dad used to be a pilot. (I might be missing one or two other private ones, so please  anyone that knows please feel free to edit my list):

Dobbins Air Reserve Base (Atlanta Naval Air Station) (KMGE)***
Fulton County Airport at Charlie Brown Field (KFTY)
McCollum Field (KRYY)
Briscoe Field (KLZU)
Cartersville Airport (KVPC)
Mathis Airport (GA27)
Stoney Point Airfield — private (6GA0)
Air Acres Airport — private (5GA4)
Holly Farm Airport — private (3GE9)

***Another amazing fact:
Dobbins Air Reserve Base is the largest multi-service reserve training base in the world. Another honor I am sure even most educated Atlantans fail to note.

So before you suggest that ATL is a one trick pony, it pays to know that there are many more airports in the region.

Again, I am not trying to be a cheerleader for Hartsfield, but I just want to make sure that you are aware that the size and scope of Hartsfield is HUGE.




A2

Don't get me wrong.  I wasn't saying that Atlanta wasn't the busiest airport or isn't as significant as it is.  I just didn't know the numbers through the other cities, but seeing as they have multiple airports, I was interested in seeing how the combination of the major airports compares.  There are so many suggestions that Atlanta needs a second airport because the one we have is almost TOO busy and that was the only reason I thought some other cities might have more daily traffic.

[A2]

adelosky, on Jan 25 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong.  I wasn't saying that Atlanta wasn't the busiest airport or isn't as significant as it is.  I just didn't know the numbers through the other cities, but seeing as they have multiple airports, I was interested in seeing how the combination of the major airports compares.  There are so many suggestions that Atlanta needs a second airport because the one we have is almost TOO busy and that was the only reason I thought some other cities might have more daily traffic.

Lol, no worries adelosky. I am just a data geek and your post helped to get some hard data to the thread. It is great discussion material and what makes UP a great forum for us to debate freely and respectfully. I think we need to be prodded to ask questions and provide stats when asked. If not, we become pumpers of misinformation, which serves nobody, but the pumpers who like to see themselves in writing acting as if whatever they spew is the Gospel.  

A2

ps---Keep up the great posts, because your comments are actually thought provoking, and help us all to learn even more.

[j.midtown]

adelosky, on Jan 25 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong.  I wasn't saying that Atlanta wasn't the busiest airport or isn't as significant as it is.  I just didn't know the numbers through the other cities, but seeing as they have multiple airports, I was interested in seeing how the combination of the major airports compares.  There are so many suggestions that Atlanta needs a second airport because the one we have is almost TOO busy and that was the only reason I thought some other cities might have more daily traffic.

Actually, to be precise, the discussions of a second airport are based on the region's growth projections that indicate demand will grow outstrip Hartsfield's capacity in the future - something like 2025.  HJAIA is not too busy today and can continue to increase traffic in the near future, but it's a reasonable position that it makes sense to add capacity (e.g. a second airport) before you actually need it and of course, major airports are not built in a day.

[Jim856796]

A sixth runway may be proposed for the Hartsfield-Jackson Airport. If there is a sixth runway, it is to be located just to the north of the new fifth runway. I don't know if that proposal will go forward.

[Martinman]

Here's a test of the people mover connecting the airport with the new rental car center.  The new facility opens in November.

[Lady Celeste]

Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport has set a new record. I am constantly amazed at how efficient this airport is inspite of being the world's busiest airport.

According to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) data, Hartsfield-Jackson handled 88,408 flight operations last month, and set a new single-day record with 3,125 flight operations on July 13, making it the busiest day ever at Hartsfield-Jackson.

WOW!

Anyway, you can read the specifics here:

Hartsfield-Jackson sets flight record

[Lady Celeste]

The world's busiest airport and the world's largest airline have inked a tentative deal that will keep the airline based from the airport. This is great news as the airport has been a catalyst for growth in the Atlanta area since before I was born. Delta is a great corporate citizen and I am glad that the city and airport authority did whatever it took to have a win win situation for everyone. It benefits Atlanta to have a finiancially secure Delta Airlines.

Read the article here:

Atlanta and Delta strike a tentative agreement to keep Delta at the airport through 2017.

[Lady Celeste]

Flights to commence between Atlanta and Cuba!

Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport said it has received federal approval to serve as a port of entry for charter flights restricted to those with "purposeful travel" to and from Cuba.

This is great news.

Read more here:

Atlanta to Cuba

[Lady Celeste]

This is great news for the aviation buffs:

Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport said Korean Air will begin flying the A380 super jumbo jet to Atlanta as early as January 2013. I believe...as well as does the general manager of HJAIA...that this

will further enhance Atlanta's reputation as a world-class city and gateway to the United States.

The airport is near completion on $30 million worth of improvements to accommodate the large aircraft. The airport is a true treasure for the city of Atlanta and the state of Georgia.  

[Lady Celeste]

The new $1.4 billion international terminal expansion opens at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport today. This new addition  will be called Concourse F. The first flight will occur shortly after opening and be a departure for Tokyo...followed shortly thereafter by an arrival from Dublin, Ireland.

Edited by Lady Celeste, 16 May 2012 - 10:04 AM.