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[DigitalSky]

I think you're right.  I recently checked out both the Harris Teeter at Gaston Mall and the Harris Teeter next to Monroe mall, both have that old late 80s / early 90s look to them, and I think that they both will close just like the Winthrop one did.  All of these stores are in the relatively core area of these towns, and these towns do have the newer Harris Teeter stores out in the more suburban areas (Robinwood Road, Sun Valley, Celanese Rd)

[Batou]

Though this is somewhat unrelated but over on University City blvd where they recently opened that newer harristeeter where mediaplay was, i noticed them tearing down the area where the old one was. Anyone know what is going in that spot?

[mediamongrel]

Would have to think it would be your typical strip mall tenant.

[DigitalSky]

Batou, on Dec 6 2006, 06:36 PM, said:

Though this is somewhat unrelated but over on University City blvd where they recently opened that newer harristeeter where mediaplay was, i noticed them tearing down the area where the old one was. Anyone know what is going in that spot?

A gym / Fitness Center.

[Batou]

cantnot, on Dec 7 2006, 12:22 AM, said:

A gym / Fitness Center.

Ah, it's weird it just popped out in buying that spot out of nowhere it seems.

[DigitalSky]

Yeah. I was hoping that it would be a Barnes & Noble or Borders for all the UNCC Students (I Know they have a B&N on campus like we do at uncg, but it's not really a full store)

[Skyline49er]

cantnot, on Dec 7 2006, 04:25 PM, said:

Yeah. I was hoping that it would be a Barnes & Noble or Borders for all the UNCC Students (I Know they have a B&N on campus like we do at uncg, but it's not really a full store)

Yea, I was hoping for that too.  It would be so nice to have a full book store that is close to campus.  The closet is Books A Million at Concord Mills.  Something like Manifest records would have been cool too.

[DigitalSky]

Definately. I really think that it would be smart for a bookstore and music store like Manifest to joing the Univ. area.... There's still that old Winn Dixie on UC Blvd, maybe Manifest Can open a store there (the Manifest on South Blvd is a former WD too) heh

[mediamongrel]

cantnot, on Dec 7 2006, 10:59 PM, said:

Definately. I really think that it would be smart for a bookstore and music store like Manifest to joing the Univ. area.... There's still that old Winn Dixie on UC Blvd, maybe Manifest Can open a store there (the Manifest on South Blvd is a former WD too) heh

The problem with Manifest opening another store is that a lot of their material and stock is "collected" over a period of time.  You would have to have at least a few thousand or so used CD's and some albums and tapes, plus a variety of decent imports to get a store like Manifest off the ground.  Maybe they could shut down all the useless and overpriced strip mall used CD stores and combine it into a new Manifest.  

By the way, the Manifest on South Blvd. has always been great, but recently it's a pain to get there because of the traffic caused by the construction of the idiotic light rail line.

Edited by mediamongrel, 08 December 2006 - 03:27 PM.

[BobbyRobert]

Has anyone gotten wind of HT looking for a South blvd site around Poindexter for a full sized store? I heard that rumor a few months ago but nothing since. The site makes sense to me from a location analysis perspective (the east blvd and Park Road SC stores seem to be as big as they can be), but I don’t see an obvious parcel for a store this big. Thoughts anyone?

[mediamongrel]

BobbyRobert, on Dec 9 2006, 01:03 PM, said:

Has anyone gotten wind of HT looking for a South blvd site around Poindexter for a full sized store? I heard that rumor a few months ago but nothing since. The site makes sense to me from a location analysis perspective (the east blvd and Park Road SC stores seem to be as big as they can be), but I don’t see an obvious parcel for a store this big. Thoughts anyone?

Did you mean to say East Blvd, Park Rd, NC stores? or did you mean East Blvd, Park Rd, and SC stores?

I doubt South Blvd. is HT's clientel anymore.  At one time it was, but once you drive south of East Blvd. on South Blvd. there are no potential customers that HT wants, especially near the mall area or anything of that sort.  It is kind of funny though how there is only a Bi-Lo and Food Lion around the Carolina Place Mall area.  However, there is a BJ's too.  Besides, the Quail Corners HT isn't THAT far away!

[BobbyRobert]

mediamongrel, on Dec 9 2006, 01:32 PM, said:

Did you mean to say East Blvd, Park Rd, NC stores? or did you mean East Blvd, Park Rd, and SC stores?

sorry, I was being lazy, I meant to say Park Rd shopping center store.

mediamongrel, on Dec 9 2006, 01:32 PM, said:

I doubt South Blvd. is HT's clientel anymore.  At one time it was, but once you drive south of East Blvd. on South Blvd. there are no potential customers that HT wants, especially near the mall area or anything of that sort.

Thus the source of my question. I am curious if HT thinks the demographics of the scalybark area are going to change.

[DigitalSky]

Remember that HT used to have a store where the Home Economist is today (I think it was their 2nd oldest store), but the demos of South are ever changing so you never know.

Also, is there room (or plans) for the HT @ Park Road to expand like the one in Cotswold did?

[mediamongrel]

cantnot, on Dec 9 2006, 05:26 PM, said:

Remember that HT used to have a store where the Home Economist is today (I think it was their 2nd oldest store), but the demos of South are ever changing so you never know.

Also, is there room (or plans) for the HT @ Park Road to expand like the one in Cotswold did?

Anything could happen with Park Road.  At one time Park Road shopping center had an A & P, Montogomery Ward, J.C. Penney, and a lot of old time stores if I am not mistaken.  I wouldn't be surprised if Harris Teeter expanded this location eventually but the problem is that the USPS has a post office almost right next to the HT.  I do not know if they would be willing to movesince that USPS location is very busy.  Also, that parking lot at Park Road is set up like Cotswold with those sideways parking spaces that don't save much room for anything else.

[DigitalSky]

mediamongrel, on Dec 9 2006, 11:16 PM, said:

Anything could happen with Park Road.  At one time Park Road shopping center had an A & P, Montogomery Ward, J.C. Penney, and a lot of old time stores if I am not mistaken.  I wouldn't be surprised if Harris Teeter expanded this location eventually but the problem is that the USPS has a post office almost right next to the HT.  I do not know if they would be willing to movesince that USPS location is very busy.  Also, that parking lot at Park Road is set up like Cotswold with those sideways parking spaces that don't save much room for anything else.

Ok thanks. And do you know why Harris Teeter built that other store just a mile south on Park Road (Park Selwyn Terrace)?  I always thought it was because they didn't have room to expand the Park Road Shopping Center store.

Edited by cantnot, 11 December 2006 - 11:18 AM.

[atlrvr]

I believe that one of the city's unspoken requirements for the Scaleybark RFP was to include a grocery store....perhaps this is where HT would go, though that project appears that it may stall a bit.

It could also be going at Citiline's redevelopment of the Sonoco plant across South Blvd. from Poindexter.

While both locations will have substantial residential adjacent to the sites, I don't forsee enough high-income demographic to attract HT in the next 5 years.  I would think Bloom would be more interested.

[mediamongrel]

atlrvr, on Dec 10 2006, 12:34 AM, said:

I believe that one of the city's unspoken requirements for the Scaleybark RFP was to include a grocery store....perhaps this is where HT would go, though that project appears that it may stall a bit.

It could also be going at Citiline's redevelopment of the Sonoco plant across South Blvd. from Poindexter.

While both locations will have substantial residential adjacent to the sites, I don't forsee enough high-income demographic to attract HT in the next 5 years.  I would think Bloom would be more interested.

Yes, nothing is holding Bloom back.  They are building a Bloom in Fort Mill off Carowinds Blvd right next to a golf course that is a VERY affluent area.

[DigitalSky]

Yeah I've always wondered why Bloom isn't more aggressive in building stores in South Charlotte.

[monsoon]

An update on the BiLo remodeling that I mentioned was taking place at their location in Huntersville.  

They are now having a Grand Re-Opening.  Their  advertisements say this is a "Fresher, Quicker, Easier way to Shop".    I got some junk mail from them that said "Come have a Look!"  So I couldn't resist and I went and looked at it.    They have put back some of the things that I said they had removed earlier as the flowers are back and there is a small area to sit down and eat.   There is now a self serve salad bar.  They have also added some of those mini shopping carts that FoodLion is putting in Bloome and are in some express HTs.  

It looked as if all the BiLo brass was here as there were a bunch of middle aged men standing around with BiLo badges on their shirts.   They were giving away some energy drinks and other free food.  Some of the standing around management were eating the free stuff.  (mainly the ones that were too big to fit in their clothes comfortably)  Some kind of radio station was there too with big speakers on this van.  And they had big balloons flying above the place in violation of Hunterville's sign law.    

Maybe this is the hope for saving BiLo in NC.   I will admit the store was clean for a change but that might change once the high ups are gone.

[DigitalSky]

Bi-Lo has the problem of not being able to establish itself as either an upscale grocer or mid market grocer... Plus I still don't know WHY Bi-Lo and HT built right next to each other up there.

Also I was thinking.. With the Vacant Bi-Lo in Cornelius and soon-to-be Vacant Harris Teeter up on Torrence Chapel... It would be a good posistion for stores like Earth Fare and Fresh Market to fill.