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#41 mental757

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 11:05 AM

View Postbrick, on Feb 5 2007, 07:27 AM, said:

that's a backhoe, not a front end loader.


It's actaually an excavator.  a backhoes has the 'arm' bucket in the back with a hydraulic 'scoop' in the front.

A front end loader is similar to an excavator but it has a large 'scoop' in the front.  Many of these machines can interchange features as well.

sorry to go off topic - just wanted to clarify.

 

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 11:31 AM

It's for the living, not the dead that they are looking for parking (Tarro funeral home).  I guess the Tarro who plays with cadavers wants to kill our buildings too.  He resents the fact that he can't do anything he wants with this building even though his dad must have gotten this site under very unsavory means (Hey its a public school--how the heck do these weasels end up with all our public properties--e.g. Bell Str. Park, St. John's parking lot, Federal Hill lot--with no public comment?).

I have contacted the state asbestos inspector and will also contact the lead ones to see if they are compromising the health of the immediate neighbors.  

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View PostLMWW, on Feb 3 2007, 11:47 PM, said:

Being a member of the immediate neighborhood, I have to admit to being a bit perplexed. They want to build a parking lot for....what? As far as I can tell, most of our neighbors have driveway parking. And its not like we have a particularly happenin' nightlife in our several-block radius.

This is maddening.


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Posted 05 February 2007 - 11:35 AM

View PostCotuit, on Feb 5 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

I'd be all for protesting the business if it weren't a funeral home. I don't really like the idea of compounding innocent people's grief. But there should be a way to have some sort of action without impacting grieving families.

Agreed. One thing that could happen would be a rally of some sort at the demo site itself (which is set a ways back from the funeral home) and have it planned at a time that there is unlikely to be any services happening (like later in the afternoon?) I suppose the nature of the funeral business though makes it hard to gauge when there would or would not be people there. I certainly wouldnt want to do anything that affects a grieving family. This matter of demolition is mighty small compared to a loved one dying...

Anyhow, it was just a thought. There's nothing to say it would even have to be at the site or anything like that. Perhaps Mr Segal could let his "flipping" legislation take a backseat to something like this that directly affects our neighborhoods negatively on an ongoing basis. Im all for making this a jailable offense.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 11:47 AM

View Postmental757, on Feb 5 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

It's actaually an excavator.  a backhoes has the 'arm' bucket in the back with a hydraulic 'scoop' in the front.

A front end loader is similar to an excavator but it has a large 'scoop' in the front.  Many of these machines can interchange features as well.

sorry to go off topic - just wanted to clarify.
I showed the pic to my 3 year old son who is an expert on earth moving equipment and he concurs with you that it is in fact an excavator.

PS. He wants to be an excavator driver when he grows up although once he said that he would simply like to be an excavator.

Edited by gregw, 05 February 2007 - 11:49 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:11 PM

View Postmental757, on Feb 5 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

It's actaually an excavator.  a backhoes has the 'arm' bucket in the back with a hydraulic 'scoop' in the front.

A front end loader is similar to an excavator but it has a large 'scoop' in the front.  Many of these machines can interchange features as well.

sorry to go off topic - just wanted to clarify.

At the risk of going even further off topic, here's some images of what I grew up calling excavators, loaders, and backhoes on my dad's jobsites:

Excavator:

180px_Excavator_aa.jpg

Front End Loader:

250px_Frontloaderko.jpg

Backhoe:

300px_Koparko_ladowarka.JPG


Then you've got your bulldozer, grader, a bobcat or two, maybe a skyjack and the rest of the big-boy toys...

EDIT: clarification, pictures aren't mine, they're from wikipedia

Edited by JJK5, 05 February 2007 - 12:17 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:14 PM

i got to drive a front end loader, but a bit bigger than the one you pictured, when i was a kid.  it made my year.   :thumbsup:

is a pay loader the same thing?

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:25 PM

View Postanniefanny, on Feb 5 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

It's for the living, not the dead that they are looking for parking (Tarro funeral home).  I guess the Tarro who plays with cadavers wants to kill our buildings too.  He resents the fact that he can't do anything he wants with this building even though his dad must have gotten this site under very unsavory means (Hey its a public school--how the heck do these weasels end up with all our public properties--e.g. Bell Str. Park, St. John's parking lot, Federal Hill lot--with no public comment?).

I have contacted the state asbestos inspector and will also contact the lead ones to see if they are compromising the health of the immediate neighbors.  

Anne


Welcome to the board AnnieFanny!

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:31 PM

Am I crazy or has the Journal not done a story about this? It's near impossible to navigate their redesigned website, so maybe I missed something.

#49 mental757

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:32 PM

Coming from a long line of electrical contractors and having spent far too much time watching all those trucks as a kid has yielded me far too much worthless 'constrction equipment information'...

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:33 PM

Just went by - historic doors still hanging on their hinges, blowing in the wind...

And a cop car sitting there in a 24 hour detail.

Heres another suggestion that better be in process - injunction filed against the owner for any further demo, and a civil lawsuit brought against them to reimburse the city for the big bucks spent on the police detail, and whatever other things some attorneys can come up with. Michael Tarro should know all about that, seeing as he is a lawyer...

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:41 PM

View PostCotuit, on Feb 5 2007, 01:31 PM, said:

Am I crazy or has the Journal not done a story about this? It's near impossible to navigate their redesigned website, so maybe I missed something.

I can't find it on there.  And their search is horrendous.  I was hoping I could find the video on wjar.com, but came up empty in that search as well.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:46 PM

View PostCotuit, on Feb 5 2007, 01:31 PM, said:

Am I crazy or has the Journal not done a story about this? It's near impossible to navigate their redesigned website, so maybe I missed something.
nope. I emailed the metro desk about it Saturday morning. A photog should have been sent out--they used to monitor the police radio, so as soon as cops were dispached, the photographer should have as well. Nada. Who is surprised? The Journal sucks.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:47 PM

View PostJJK5, on Feb 5 2007, 01:41 PM, said:

I can't find it on there.  And their search is horrendous.  I was hoping I could find the video on wjar.com, but came up empty in that search as well.

i looked for the video too, wanted to see jen's interview, but nothing.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:47 PM

View Postmental757, on Feb 5 2007, 01:32 PM, said:

Coming from a long line of electrical contractors and having spent far too much time watching all those trucks as a kid has yielded me far too much worthless 'constrction equipment information'...

I frequently sit at my job wishing I had become an electrician rather than a compu-nerd.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:47 PM

View Posteltron, on Feb 5 2007, 01:33 PM, said:

Michael Tarro should know all about that, seeing as he is a lawyer...
who works for the city.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:48 PM

View Postmental757, on Feb 5 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

It's actaually an excavator.  a backhoes has the 'arm' bucket in the back with a hydraulic 'scoop' in the front.

A front end loader is similar to an excavator but it has a large 'scoop' in the front.  Many of these machines can interchange features as well.

sorry to go off topic - just wanted to clarify.

Well if we want to get really really technical, the arm with the bucket is a backhoe.  The bucket comes up underneath the arm which is where the name back hoe comes from.

What people in New England like to call backhoes also typically have front-end loaders on them.  They are actually "front-end loader with backhoe" which people have just shortened to backhoe, which means that we also have to have the bulky excavator term when any of the aforementioned devices will perform excavation.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:48 PM

View Postrunawayjim, on Feb 5 2007, 01:47 PM, said:

i looked for the video too, wanted to see jen's interview, but nothing.
everyone in my family TiVo-ed it. I look like a fat  and chilly albino squirrel with a bad attitude.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:50 PM

View Postrunawayjim, on Feb 5 2007, 01:47 PM, said:

i looked for the video too, wanted to see jen's interview, but nothing.


...I recorded it.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:52 PM

we can upload it to youtube and you can all see how badass i am with my buck teeth and sunglasses. ;)

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:55 PM

View Postjencoleslaw, on Feb 5 2007, 01:52 PM, said:

we can upload it to youtube and you can all see how badass i am with my buck teeth and sunglasses. ;)
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