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[ryanmckibben]

[perimeter285]

Martinman, on May 21 2007, 01:15 PM, said:

Apparently Club 112 is closing in two weeks so it looks as if groundbreaking on Phase II of 12th & Midtown will happen this summer.

The closure of Club 112 is a big loss for Peachtree St. and Midtown as a whole.

[Student]

Out of curiosity, exactly what color will the glass be on 12th and Midtown Phase II? Will it actually be the purple shown in the renderings?

[Andrea]

perimeter285, on May 21 2007, 07:45 PM, said:

The closure of Club 112 is a big loss for Peachtree St. and Midtown as a whole.

Heh.  I remember when it was in Buckhead, in the Disco Kroger shopping center.  Somehow the city managed to survive that, too.

[pksiv]

Andrea, on May 21 2007, 11:22 PM, said:

Heh.  I remember when it was in Buckhead, in the Disco Kroger shopping center.  Somehow the city managed to survive that, too.

Is that where it used to be ?  I lived in Atlanta from '83-86, out in Norcross actually, and used to come in to clubs like Confetti, Limelight, Club 112 etc... and when I moved back in 1999, there's no way I would've been able to find where the used to be. I don't think I ever drove so I had no concept of where these places actually were.

I'm putting my money on at least some of these places moving to the West side since there's still industrial-type areas around where noise isn't an issue. There's no way you could put Vision in the bottom of a hotel or condo tower without investing some serious money to prevent the bass thumping from keeping the residents awake at night.

Down in my neighborhood, I've heard that Loca Luna & McCray's will be closing at the end of the year and while McCray's apparently has a deal to move back into Viewpoint, I can't see Loca Luna doing so.

[Martinman]

Student, on May 21 2007, 09:27 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, exactly what color will the glass be on 12th and Midtown Phase II? Will it actually be the purple shown in the renderings?

We'll probably get a better sense of that once more detailed architectural renderings are released.  They are bound to be some changes as it gets closer to construction.

pksiv, on May 22 2007, 09:43 AM, said:

Is that where it used to be ?  I lived in Atlanta from '83-86, out in Norcross actually, and used to come in to clubs like Confetti, Limelight, Club 112 etc... and when I moved back in 1999, there's no way I would've been able to find where the used to be. I don't think I ever drove so I had no concept of where these places actually were.

Wow they were before my time, but those clubs are legendary in Atlanta including 112 in its former life.

[Andrea]

pksiv, on May 22 2007, 08:43 AM, said:

Is that where it used to be ?  I lived in Atlanta from '83-86, out in Norcross actually, and used to come in to clubs like Confetti, Limelight, Club 112 etc...

Yeah, it was next door to Rupert's, which had previously been Limelight.  I really miss Rupert's -- there aren't many (any?) places where you can go and hear a big show band like the Rupert's Orchestra.  That's how Disco Kroger got it's name, of course -- the people from the clubs would come in there looking for munchies at 2:00 after a hard night of partying.  

I agree about the Westside becoming a major venue for the clubs.  Downtown could work, but there's more space out on the Westside.

[Andrea]

Martinman, on May 22 2007, 09:58 AM, said:

Wow they were before my time, but those clubs are legendary in Atlanta including 112 in its former life.

Those were crazy times.  Atlanta had some great night spots in those days.

[perimeter285]

Where is the Disco Kroger?

[Andrea]

perimeter285, on May 22 2007, 12:58 PM, said:

Where is the Disco Kroger?

On Piedmont, sort of across from Terminus and Tower Place.

[pksiv]

Andrea, on May 22 2007, 12:46 PM, said:

I agree about the Westside becoming a major venue for the clubs.  Downtown could work, but there's more space out on the Westside.

BTW: If you haven't heard, or been yet, they've opened a new "Six Feet Under" on 11th Street between Northside & Howell Mill. The rooftop patio has awesome views of the city from Downtown all the way to Buckhead. (On a clear day anyway, probably not today with the smoke.)

And there's no cemetery across the street from this one.

[perimeter285]

Andrea, on May 22 2007, 02:48 PM, said:

On Piedmont, sort of across from Terminus and Tower Place.

Oh that Kroger in that God-awful suburban strip plaza that is in the heart of what has become urban Buckhead.  The center across the street (with Copelands Restaurant) is a GREAT design with retail up to the street and parking in back - as it should be.

The Barnes and Noble/Publix shopping center on Peachtree is terribly suburban too, as are the McDonalds, Wendys, and Burger King Restaurants.  At least the Chick-fil-A is built up to the street.  The others are typical suburban style crap on our signature street.

Edited by perimeter285, 22 May 2007 - 02:37 PM.

[Trae]

I doubt Buckhead will ever become a true urban area. I think people will always prefer to drive than walk in Buckhead.

[Lady Celeste]

I am glad to see that another piece of the Midtown Mile is about to start. One thing I like about Atlanta. An announcement is made, a rendering is shown and a few months later construction starts. This will definitely add to the pedestrian feel of that stretch of Peachtree St.

[Andrea]

Trae, on May 22 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

I doubt Buckhead will ever become a true urban area. I think people will always prefer to drive than walk in Buckhead.

Well, you never know.  The people who brought you downtown, Midtown, the Arts Center, the High Museum, the pro sports teams, the Symphony, the Olympics, the Aquarium, Emory University, the World of Coke, the History Center, etc., etc., are mostly in Buckhead, so maybe they'll fix up their own stomping grounds, too.

[pksiv]

Andrea, on May 22 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Well, you never know.  The people who brought you downtown, Midtown, the Arts Center, the High Museum, the pro sports teams, the Symphony, the Olympics, the Aquarium, Emory University, the World of Coke, the History Center, etc., etc., are mostly in Buckhead, so maybe they'll fix up their own stomping grounds, too.

While I never expect the "older" Buckhead crowd to walk to the shops etc... I think once the whole Peachtree Blvd project is finish you'll see a lot more people park their car somewhere and walk around for the afternoon/evening.

[Lady Celeste]

I'm in the Buckhead District almost daily now. From what I see, there are many more people walking this area than it used to be. I find this fascinating taking in consideration all the construction going on in the area. Once Terminus, The Sovereign, Realm, The Mansion and CityPlace @ Buckhead join the other residential highrises in the area, I'm sure more and more people will walk. Buckhead has the potential and the drive to become alot more "urban" than it is now. I don't think it will ever be in the true sense of say a Manhattan. It is, however, improving right before our eyes. I would never say it will never become more urban or new urban. If the could redevelop the Disco Kroger and bring it to the street with rear or park deck parking, it would go a long way in making the area desirable.

I can also imagine that once the Peachtree Blvd project is complete and the Buckhead Avenues come on line, more and more people can partake in walking. Will they? That is for the future. Can they? They will definitely have the option to walk. If the get too tired then they can always hop on the BUC. Oftentimes, when I consider ever moving to the city for an urban highrise experience, the Buckhead Business District catches my eye. Fine dining, fine shopping, access to public transportation and great potential are great ingredients for a great living experience. For my taste, the Buckhead Business District gives Midtown some serious competition.

[krazeeboi]

If DC area leaders are trying to retrofit Tysons Corner, surely there's hope for Buckhead.

[adelosky]

Lady Celeste, on May 23 2007, 01:29 PM, said:

I can also imagine that once the Peachtree Blvd project is complete and the Buckhead Avenues come on line, more and more people can partake in walking. Will they? That is for the future. Can they? They will definitely have the option to walk. If the get too tired then they can always hop on the BUC. Oftentimes, when I consider ever moving to the city for an urban highrise experience, the Buckhead Business District catches my eye. Fine dining, fine shopping, access to public transportation and great potential are great ingredients for a great living experience. For my taste, the Buckhead Business District gives Midtown some serious competition.

If, as an Atlanta native, I can stay out of my car (once I'm at work) and walk anywhere in Buckhead instead of getting in my car just to go to lunch, anyone can.  It's all about perception and right now Atlanta and the majority of the people who commute to it from the burbs have the perception that it is still difficult to get anywhere in the city without getting in your car.

But I agree 100% that more and more people are walking the streets than they used to and the more the entire area develops it's street life, the more it will happen.  And to your point of hopping on the BUC, I think it's another reason the streetcar must get built.  You can only take the BUC so far south.  I'd rather ride a streetcar to Midtown from Buckhead than MARTA anyday.  Imagine a day like today, as gorgeous as it is outside and being able to ride with the windows down and catch some of the new construction going on!

[Lady Celeste]

  This is so off topic from Midtown development, I apologize to everyone.

adelosky, on May 23 2007, 01:06 PM, said:

If, as an Atlanta native, I can stay out of my car (once I'm at work) and walk anywhere in Buckhead instead of getting in my car just to go to lunch, anyone can.  It's all about perception and right now Atlanta and the majority of the people who commute to it from the burbs have the perception that it is still difficult to get anywhere in the city without getting in your car.

You are right. It is all about preception. I, for one, am having to rethink how I deal with an "urban" environment. Instead of wearing a skirt suit with no top underneath, I now wear the suit with a sleeveless top. This helps for when I get warm, I can take the blazer off. I also have to rethink my shoes. I'm a lover of heels but sidewalks will do number on hills. I do not walk the streets with more than five carats, nor do I try to look lost. I have yet to have a really bad experience.  

I have a client who moved to Atlanta from San Francisco she says 26 years ago. She says she has been outside the perimeter perhaps 10 times. I find that fascinating. Some of my clients are opting for intown living. I cannot say that they are necessarily looking for highrise living but they are looking in the Mount Paran/Tuxedo Park/Morningside/VA Highland/Ansley Park areas. As more people come  

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But I agree 100% that more and more people are walking the streets than they used to and the more the entire area develops it's street life, the more it will happen.  And to your point of hopping on the BUC, I think it's another reason the streetcar must get built.  You can only take the BUC so far south.  I'd rather ride a streetcar to Midtown from Buckhead than MARTA anyday.  Imagine a day like today, as gorgeous as it is outside and being able to ride with the windows down and catch some of the new construction going on!

My only concern with riding a trolley, bus or whatever to Midtown is why? Why not just jump on Marta and a few stations later you are in Midtown. I'm not saying that the streetcar is not needed. I know that I would just take the train to Midtown/Downtown before I ride a street vehicle. It will always be at the mercy of traffic. Your comment about riding with a window open/down....no...not to have my hairstyle blown to smithereens. (sp?)