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[LoganVA]

Fair Oaks Mall is becoming another Tyson Corner Center with many more upscale stores to shop at.  With many new developments in and around the mall, it will surely become pedestrian friendly.

[beltwayboy08]

LoganVA, on Sep 5 2007, 11:39 AM, said:

Fair Oaks Mall is becoming another Tyson Corner Center with many more upscale stores to shop at. With many new developments in and around the mall, it will surely become pedestrian friendly.

i truthfully think tysons has alot of potential for being the "largest skyline in the state". given its enormous width, 2 1/2 miles, it can support alot. even now, from the toll road, its city scape is really long. its just a question new taller buildings. i think it can happen and it will happen as soon as metro goes in, and there is some transit re-organization. most of the nova "office park areas" are and will be going through massive updates by the counties and state to attract people to them, instead of the far out subburbs to controll traffic. ffx city is now going through some massive updates that are making it pedestrian friendly and adding street level shops, restaurants and high density housing. this goes for rosslyn, ballston, parts of crystal city, and springfield. and marrifield too. tysons can be fixed. it will be work, but it can happen. where there is a will, there's a way.

[LoganVA]

beltwayboy08, on Sep 6 2007, 07:15 PM, said:

i truthfully think tysons has alot of potential for being the "largest skyline in the state". given its enormous width, 2 1/2 miles, it can support alot. even now, from the toll road, its city scape is really long. its just a question new taller buildings. i think it can happen and it will happen as soon as metro goes in, and there is some transit re-organization. most of the nova "office park areas" are and will be going through massive updates by the counties and state to attract people to them, instead of the far out subburbs to controll traffic. ffx city is now going through some massive updates that are making it pedestrian friendly and adding street level shops, restaurants and high density housing. this goes for rosslyn, ballston, parts of crystal city, and springfield. and marrifield too. tysons can be fixed. it will be work, but it can happen. where there is a will, there's a way.

When you combined all Virginia downtowns, Tyson is still larger when comparing square footage of office buildings and retail.  It's even larger than most downtown in America.  It is so spread out with pockets of developments through out that eventually will turn into a community in itself.  Samples of developments that are conforming to the new county development plan are begging take shape.  Look at the new and future buildings in the galleria area, the Borders Book building on Leesburg Pike, and Park Center development.  All these are becoming urban like.  Plus the many proposed developments like Tyson Corner Center and the Tower development that's located right across the street from Tiffany and Gucci.

[beltwayboy08]

LoganVA, on Sep 7 2007, 10:07 AM, said:

When you combined all Virginia downtowns, Tyson is still larger when comparing square footage of office buildings and retail. It's even larger than most downtown in America. It is so spread out with pockets of developments through out that eventually will turn into a community in itself. Samples of developments that are conforming to the new county development plan are begging take shape. Look at the new and future buildings in the galleria area, the Borders Book building on Leesburg Pike, and Park Center development. All these are becoming urban like. Plus the many proposed developments like Tyson Corner Center and the Tower development that's located right across the street from Tiffany and Gucci.

most people are not sure about tysons. some even think it can't be salvaged. it can, and will. how do other cities function? denver, montgomery, new orleans, oklahoma city? none of these towns have rail transit (maybe denver. right?) tysons will get metro, and will become more ped. friendly. it is getting lots of condo blocks that will create a more walking oriented environment, and will attract tysons employees to live where they work. dont give up so easy guys. tysons had LOTS of potential. its area is greater than downtown and midtown manhattan, chigago, and miami, as well as many others! it will become NOVA's gem.

[hoobo]

beltwayboy08, on Sep 7 2007, 07:45 AM, said:

most people are not sure about tysons. some even think it can't be salvaged. it can, and will. how do other cities function? denver, montgomery, new orleans, oklahoma city? none of these towns have rail transit (maybe denver. right?) tysons will get metro, and will become more ped. friendly. it is getting lots of condo blocks that will create a more walking oriented environment, and will attract tysons employees to live where they work. dont give up so easy guys. tysons had LOTS of potential. its area is greater than downtown and midtown manhattan, chigago, and miami, as well as many others! it will become NOVA's gem.

Those cities are old cities with old downtowns.  Tysons' is a high-rise office park like Irvine is in SoCal.  Buildings were designed around cars not pedestrians like they were in those other cities you mentioned.  Reston TC is more urban in style than Tyson's Corner.  You need sidewalks, human-sized blocks (not superblocks), and street-level retail for an area to be truly urban.

[beltwayboy08]

hoobo, on Sep 7 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

Those cities are old cities with old downtowns. Tysons' is a high-rise office park like Irvine is in SoCal. Buildings were designed around cars not pedestrians like they were in those other cities you mentioned. Reston TC is more urban in style than Tyson's Corner. You need sidewalks, human-sized blocks (not superblocks), and street-level retail for an area to be truly urban.

hoobo, glad to see that we are on the same page!! an area absolutly does need these things to be urban. after they are built, tysons will be urban. (with the exception of the mega block thing) but that isnt a big deal if they are lined with retail and restaurants. tysons, as an area, is under construction. there are places all over the area that started as office parks and are now being converted into "down towns". I truthfully think that the rosslyn-ballston and crystal city-potomac yard corridors have the most potential.

[LoganVA]

hoobo, on Sep 7 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

Those cities are old cities with old downtowns.  Tysons' is a high-rise office park like Irvine is in SoCal.  Buildings were designed around cars not pedestrians like they were in those other cities you mentioned.  Reston TC is more urban in style than Tyson's Corner.  You need sidewalks, human-sized blocks (not superblocks), and street-level retail for an area to be truly urban.

True about Tysons being an office park.  That was the original idea until it became too famous and close-in local.  Tysons is still workable.  It will cost alot but can be done.  And in Tysons, if they want it and believ they do, it will happen.  Buckhead, north of Atlanta was designed the same way until they started re-inventing it to make it look more pedestrian-like.  Still, to get from one mall to another, you'll have to cross Peachtree.  And, there are still pockets of strip centers around. The Cherry Creek area of Denver is the same, so are parts of Dallas near Turtle Creek where they have these circular drive and lush greenery around these tall buildings.

[beltwayboy08]

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True about Tysons being an office park. That was the original idea until it became too famous and close-in local. Tysons is still workable.

thank you! perfect! it simply takes up too much valuable land and has too much potential to just forget about. it is between 3 major area roads and will have transit soon. even if tysons was all landfill, it is just too centraly located to give up on.

Edited by beltwayboy08, 07 September 2007 - 06:34 PM.

[burt]

beltwayboy08, on Sep 5 2007, 11:30 AM, said:

thanks hoobo for the info on pembroke. wrldcoupe4, i'm not sure about where they will be expanding. the info has just come out. I hear there will be a pretty big office building. well big for ffx city. but i read about it in the wash. post. and yes, they will be building over parkling lots and making new parking decks to replace them. i cant wait to see it finished!! btw, thanks for the richmond pix! i set one of them as my wallpaper!

That's my boy!  

You know a good wallpaper when you see one.

Now that VW has decided to relocate its World Headquarters to Nova, have you heard where they will build or lease?  That's a real feather in Fairfax's cap, as well as for the entire Commonwealth.

Seems to me I read that Herndon will be the site.

Edited by burt, 08 September 2007 - 03:19 PM.

[4307]

Yes its Herndon, I wish it was the world headquarters though! That would be complete ownage.

[beltwayboy08]

4307, on Sep 9 2007, 02:09 AM, said:

Yes its Herndon, I wish it was the world headquarters though! That would be complete ownage.

It will be located on a property directly adjecent from the toll road. The news showed a video of where it will be. The buildings are already there, but they have a good potential to expand.
The news covered gov. kaine and the ceo's meeting and apparently 4307, they are looking to beef up here. they said "if the deal is right, there is no seen limit". wink wink... anything could happen, and I like the way its sounding. they are moving here to get  into a better area to grow. atleast that's what they are trying to make it sound like.

[beltwayboy08]

ok... i just found an article in the washington post on page F5 about the VW move. it has some good info! hope some of you guys have access to the post down in the southern part of the state. if not, let me know and i'll try and get somthing up. btw, vdogg, were getting off topic and will probably be reminded soon. should we start a new thread? is so where? thanx.

[urbanvb]

Probably post anything related to business here.

[beltwayboy08]

http://www.washingto...7090800162.html
here you go... the article..

thanks urbanvb. i'll post this there too now!