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[atlforlife]

Does Anyone have any thought about this retail jewel i lucky brand jeans is getting ready to open a store there

[Temeteron]

Very nice mall....i thought the food court was interesting as well....

[teshadoh]

One of my earliest memories was when I was the typical gen-x flunky I took classes at the dekalb college dunwoody campus.  We would sometimes skip class & go to the food court at the mall.  This was around '90 & '91, the mall then was still mostly surrounded by vacant fields & the office parks were not fully developed.  Also more notably was that the mall was the ONLY retail development there back then.

[krazeeboi]

Perimeter Mall is OK; it gets the job done.

What's so interesting about the food court? It's pretty standard to me. It can get crowded in the middle of the day though.

[teshadoh]

Nothing is interesting about the food court - it's a typical food court.  But more importantly there is NOTHING INTERESTING about taking boring classes at a college attended by fellow college drop outs & rejects.  So - not that Dunwoody is that exciting now, I can assure you it was far less exciting back in '90.

Hence - the reason we would hang out at the food court b/c (at the time) it was less than 5 to 10 minutes away.

[SAV]

I think Perimeter Mall can definatley use a couple more mid to high end stores. Maybe an Armani Exchange, urban outfitters, LV, Juicy Coutour, a smaller H&M and a few other stores. If not Perimter then definatley North Point

Edited by SAV, 18 September 2007 - 08:57 AM.

[atlforlife]

There talks about opening a LV there are north point  but i really think it should go to perimeter with nordstroms and bloomindales being there  i know lucky brand is about to open it

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

atlforlife, on Sep 18 2007, 12:12 PM, said:

There talks about opening a LV there are north point but i really think it should go to perimeter with nordstroms and bloomindales being there i know lucky brand is about to open it

I agree LV would be well suited for Perimeter, and it seems to be trying to have more choices for upscale shopping such as the opening of Lacoste and Sur La Table. I can't believe there aren't more upscale stores in Perimeter with all of the wealthy neighborhoods that surround the mall and its strategic location in the heart of the Perimeter office district.

[krazeeboi]

I could definitely see those stores coming to Northpoint (which is probably my favorite Atlanta edge city mall) before Perimeter, just based on the current state of both malls. I'm unaware of the types of neighborhoods surrounding each, however.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

krazeeboi, on Sep 19 2007, 02:33 AM, said:

I could definitely see those stores coming to Northpoint (which is probably my favorite Atlanta edge city mall) before Perimeter, just based on the current state of both malls. I'm unaware of the types of neighborhoods surrounding each, however.

Well both are in affluent areas, but there has been explosive growth in North Fulton bringing in alot of affluent residents.
I was hoping that the shuttered Lord & Taylor at Northpoint could have been converted to a Bloomingdale's or Nordstrom, but with the takeover of Parisian by Belk, they shuttered  the Parisian store and reopened as Belk in the Lord & Taylor store. It will be interested to see if LV chooses Perimeter or Northpoint, as Northpoint has gained some upscale retailers as well. Also of interest is LV's recent interest in locating on the Midtown Mile in the new 1010 condo tower, which would give them streetscape retail in Atlanta, thus if that were to happen, then neither mall would end up getting a LV. as I don't see LV having 3 Atlanta boutiques at this time. We are just lucky that Atlanta will be getting a second LV, as they like many other luxury retailers only open a handfull of boutiques around the world each year.

[Martinman]

krazeeboi, on Sep 19 2007, 02:33 AM, said:

I could definitely see those stores coming to Northpoint (which is probably my favorite Atlanta edge city mall) before Perimeter, just based on the current state of both malls. I'm unaware of the types of neighborhoods surrounding each, however.

Upscale retail in N. Fulton will probably be focused on Prospect Park rather than Northpoint.

Edited by Martinman, 19 September 2007 - 06:33 PM.

[krazeeboi]

Wow, I didn't know anything about this development. Thanks for sharing; I would much prefer to see upscale retailers locate in a development like Prospect Park anyway.

[verge]

Martinman, on Sep 19 2007, 08:29 PM, said:

Upscale retail in N. Fulton will probably be focused on Prospect Park rather than Northpoint.

Nothing like a little bit of plastic history to pack 'um in...

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

Atlanta has gone "lifestyle center" crazy.
It seems building these fake town squares is the trend now by all means.

[StevenRocks]

kennethdisraili, on Oct 1 2007, 07:08 AM, said:

Atlanta has gone "lifestyle center" crazy.
It seems building these fake town squares is the trend now by all means.

It's just as contrived as the malls, if not more, but developers think they've reinvented the wheel.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

StevenRocks, on Oct 1 2007, 10:46 PM, said:

It's just as contrived as the malls, if not more, but developers think they've reinvented the wheel.

But you know Steven I have noticed one particular development that sticks out regarding " lifestyle."
Until recently with the construction starting on the Streets Of Buckhead, Atlanta was having trouble wooing in some of the luxury retailers. But now that the city is going to offer this magnificent streetscape enviroment and the luxury retailers are flocking to this development with so far such retailers as Hermes, AG, Etro, Dominico Vacca, Loro Piana, and Bottega Veneta, they seem happy.
Some of the decision makers from the fashion houses said they preferred streetscape as oppossed to being shut up in an enclosed mall, no matter how exclusive it is.
I found this to be very interesting in understanding the Europeans and their ideas about how retail best works for them.

[Christian3]

^^^^^^ WELL SAID

[StevenRocks]

kennethdisraili, on Oct 2 2007, 10:49 AM, said:

But you know Steven I have noticed one particular development that sticks out regarding " lifestyle."
Until recently with the construction starting on the Streets Of Buckhead, Atlanta was having trouble wooing in some of the luxury retailers. But now that the city is going to offer this magnificent streetscape enviroment and the luxury retailers are flocking to this development with so far such retailers as Hermes, AG, Etro, Dominico Vacca, Loro Piana, and Bottega Veneta, they seem happy.
Some of the decision makers from the fashion houses said they preferred streetscape as oppossed to being shut up in an enclosed mall, no matter how exclusive it is.
I found this to be very interesting in understanding the Europeans and their ideas about how retail best works for them.

By their very nature as open and accessible environments, malls place certain guidelines on luxury retailers that those retailers are unwilling to meet for practicality reasons like open storefronts, common area maintenance costs and required hours of operation.  Most of the stores listed tend to operate on their own hours and tend to attract destination shoppers, rather than browsers like mall stores. That's why.

[Kenneth Disraili-Jean]

StevenRocks, on Oct 2 2007, 07:35 PM, said:

By their very nature as open and accessible environments, malls place certain guidelines on luxury retailers that those retailers are unwilling to meet for practicality reasons like open storefronts, common area maintenance costs and required hours of operation. Most of the stores listed tend to operate on their own hours and tend to attract destination shoppers, rather than browsers like mall stores. That's why.

Thanks for explaining the "why" to this question. I am now really starting to get the big picture as to how it works.
As usual your knowledge of the retail industry is impeccable!

[cyclingundertheson]

Within the next five years I would expect the number of enclosed malls in metro Atlanta as well as the rest of the nation to be reduced up to 50%. The lifestyle center and mixed use developments is the next "IN" thing of retail. The malls such as Gwinnett Place, North Point, Town Center as well as others will die unless if they reinvent theirselves with a lifestyle addition. I say that Lennox and Phillips will feel the effects of the Streets of Buckhead development. All it take for Lennox to decline is to lose some of its upscale stores and an anchor such as Nieman Marcus. Once stores start leaving others will follow. F.Y.I Look what happened to Gwinnett Place which was by far one of Atlanta's nicer malls 10 years ago after the Mall of Georgia opened in 2000. This is the same trend that killed off downtown shopping 40 years ago. Now street shopping in in style again as developments such as Atlantic Station model themselves after 5th Avenue type shopping. Who knows maybe 40 years from now typical Malls will be in style again but for now the "Mall" as we used to know it is history. After all I would rather shop at a place like Prospect Park that has its own personality instead of a boring cookie cutter mall.

Edited by cyclingundertheson, 02 October 2007 - 06:54 PM.