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#1 Florida

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:58 PM

TALLAHASSEE
All Saints Square

All Saints Square- Coca-Cola Building
St Michael Street and All Saints Street
Tallahassee, Florida 32301

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Historic Coca-Cola Building Redevelopment proposed by The Winchester Brothers.
  • 42 Live/Work Lofts
  • 3,150 sq.ft. Restaurant Space
  • 3,150 sq.ft. Club Space
  • Five - 900 sq.ft. Retail Spaces

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:20 PM

UPdate | 9.18.07

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:12 PM

Cool.

Any chance this happens?

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:31 PM

View Poststjoe, on Sep 19 2007, 12:12 AM, said:

Cool.

Any chance this happens?


yummy!

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:39 AM

View Poststjoe, on Sep 19 2007, 12:12 AM, said:

Cool.

Any chance this happens?


I certainly hope so.  The big question of course will be how the numbers work out for potential purchasers that these are obviously catering to and competing with other projects for pre-construction sales (example: Adams Street Lofts was an existing conversion, and there is a unsold loft unit on Craigslist right now priced at $247 per sq. ft.).  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works out b/c this is such a neat and unique area.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:52 AM

View Postjosefk, on Sep 19 2007, 08:39 AM, said:

I certainly hope so.  The big question of course will be how the numbers work out for potential purchasers that these are obviously catering to and competing with other projects for pre-construction sales (example: Adams Street Lofts was an existing conversion, and there is a unsold loft unit on Craigslist right now priced at $247 per sq. ft.).  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works out b/c this is such a neat and unique area.

$247 per foot! They must be crazy! Craigslist is for bargains not Highway Robbery.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 07:26 AM

Are those two Porsche's park in front of the bldg. on the rendering?  If so, that may be a good indicator of where they are going w/the pricing of this project.  ;)

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 08:26 AM

One of those cars is a Nissan.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 09:31 AM

And the other is an Audi.  Where exactly is this?

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 10:01 AM

This is in the All Saints District, Downtown. On the corner of All Saints Street and Saint Michael Street.

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 01:40 PM

Ensley: The old Coke plant could help revive All Saints
By Gerald Ensley
DEMOCRAT SENIOR WRITER

The All Saints plant, used for decades by a meat-packing company, has sat idle for many years. This fall, the old ice house was demolished because it was an environmental hazard. But if Winchester is successful, the site will be reborn.

"If there is a use it can be put to, it would be a shame to tear down anything as solid as that (Coca-Cola) building," said Bill Carraway, Lively's grandson and longtime vice president of the bottling company. "It definitely has history. I'd love somebody to save it."

Winchester wants to restore the bottling plant to house a restaurant, community center and apartments. He wants to build two adjacent buildings, primarily for residential units.

He wants to re-create the famous three-story clock tower. It once stood nearby at 815 S. Macomb St., home of architect Calvin Phillips, who built the tower about 1911. It was demolished in the early 1980s.

Winchester expects to complete all the permitting in a few months, but it will be late 2008 or 2009 before construction starts. Like many, Winchester awaits the city's redevelopment of Gaines Street to spur economic investment.

But he is adamant the Coca-Cola building should be saved.

"This would be the signature and anchor for All Saints," Winchester said. "As best we can, we're going to try to make it happen."

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 07:58 AM

View PostFlorida, on Nov 10 2007, 02:40 PM, said:

Ensley: The old Coke plant could help revive All Saints
By Gerald Ensley
DEMOCRAT SENIOR WRITER

The All Saints plant, used for decades by a meat-packing company, has sat idle for many years. This fall, the old ice house was demolished because it was an environmental hazard. But if Winchester is successful, the site will be reborn.

"If there is a use it can be put to, it would be a shame to tear down anything as solid as that (Coca-Cola) building," said Bill Carraway, Lively's grandson and longtime vice president of the bottling company. "It definitely has history. I'd love somebody to save it."

Winchester wants to restore the bottling plant to house a restaurant, community center and apartments. He wants to build two adjacent buildings, primarily for residential units.

He wants to re-create the famous three-story clock tower. It once stood nearby at 815 S. Macomb St., home of architect Calvin Phillips, who built the tower about 1911. It was demolished in the early 1980s.

Winchester expects to complete all the permitting in a few months, but it will be late 2008 or 2009 before construction starts. Like many, Winchester awaits the city's redevelopment of Gaines Street to spur economic investment.

But he is adamant the Coca-Cola building should be saved.

"This would be the signature and anchor for All Saints," Winchester said. "As best we can, we're going to try to make it happen."

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I really hope that this project comes together, and I like that the developer chose to work with the same architect (Conn & Assoc.) on this building that was responsible for doing the work on the other newer developments in the All Saints area (Cloisters, etc.)- should make for a nice continuous development scheme for the area.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:27 PM

The Cloister's were fairly nice even if there floorplan could have been better only reason I didn't like them was that they were condos the Michael Mastry units in midtown were better as they were single family detached.  I am hoping that this project goes through.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:16 PM

View Postjosefk, on Nov 14 2007, 08:58 AM, said:

I really hope that this project comes together, and I like that the developer chose to work with the same architect (Conn & Assoc.) on this building that was responsible for doing the work on the other newer developments in the All Saints area (Cloisters, etc.)- should make for a nice continuous development scheme for the area.
I too think that's a good idea. I believe that Dan Winchester (the developer) and Pete Rosen (the Cloister's developer/builder) are pretty good professional friends.  Didn't Winchester use to work in planning before his stint on the County Commission?  If so, "dollars to donuts" that's how they met.

"It's a Small World after all..."

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 10:42 AM

View Posthumzai, on Nov 14 2007, 02:27 PM, said:

The Cloister's were fairly nice even if there floorplan could have been better only reason I didn't like them was that they were condos the Michael Mastry units in midtown were better as they were single family detached.  I am hoping that this project goes through.

Michael showed me a unit at the Cloisters and I LOVED IT! At that time I wasn't as concerned about them being condo's, but now that I own a condo, and pay $169 monthly for my condo fee, I'll be more careful next time. I absolutely agree wtih you, I'd prefer the townhome, or single family detached style of those in Midtown, to the connected Cloisters.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 10:21 PM

Wow... i forgot about this sweet little project.... It would nestle in nicely between the cloisters.... Comon.. build build, I might by in a year or so. :P

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:50 PM

ALL SAINTS SQUARE

All Saints Square, a condominium housing development led by Winchester Brothers Planning and Development, LLC, submitted a partnership proposal to the City to be able to apply for $5,000,000 in CWHIP funding. The developers propose a 42-unit development of 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, and 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom loft-style units, on the corner of All Saints and St. Michael’s Streets near downtown. All units will be set aside for workforce housing, and 50% of the units will be for essential services personnel, with 30 years affordability. The applicant has met the City of Tallahassee established criteria. The total development cost will be $12,000,000, making the 10% public-private partnership contribution $1,200,000. Because of the location of the project in the Community Reinvestment Area and the Enterprise Zone, those funds are available. The developers have requested

$729,000 from the City in the following programs to count towards the contribution:
Water and Sewer Fee waiver $36,000 Tree Bank fund $5,000  Utilities Energy Efficiency Fund $88,000 Enterprise Zone $200,000  Environmental Permit Fee Waiver $8,08 Affordable Housing Trust Fund $0  Community Reinvest. Agency $400,000 TOTAL $737,008  The developers and their partners have experience building housing developments of the size and scope of All Saints Square. The project is an infill re-development of the historic Coca Cola bottling plant and the surrounding parcel that will consist of 42 condominium loft-style homes. The project is close to downtown in the Southern Strategy Area. All Saints Square will consist of 10 units of 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 900 square foot homes; 32 units of 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 1,125 square foot homes; and 10 units of 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 1,500 square foot homes with a possibility for a third bedroom. The development will be mixed use, including a redesign of the Coca Cola building as restaurant, office, or retail space. The developers are pursuing partnerships with Leon County School Board, Tallahassee Memorial Hospital, Capital Regional Medical Center, Florida State University, Florida A & M University, Tallahassee Community College, New Leaf Market, Tallahassee Lenders’ Consortium, and Tallahassee Housing Authority. The development is consistent with City of Tallahassee and CWHIP requirements.

Mandatory Requirements:

All units will have 2 bedrooms or more; 2 bedroom 1 bathroom, 2 bedroom 2 bath, and 3 bedroom 2 bath.
5% of the workforce units, 2 units, will be accessible for mobility impaired, and 2% of the workforce units, 1 unit, will be accessible for visual and hearing impaired.
The development plans to set aside 20% of the workforce units, 8 units for households earning less than 80% area median income (AMI).
The site is within ½ mile of a bus route and will be connected by a sidewalk (See Attachment 1). The site is also within close proximity to existing parks, health services, childcare, shopping, schools, employment, and recreational facilities.

The development plans to follow LEED green building standards.
The development will connect by sidewalks to Myers Park and Cascades Park.
The development will provide continuous sidewalks, separated from roadways.
All landscaping will be native plants to reduce water demand.

The developers chose the following innovative elements as part of the partnership requirement:

1. Traditional Neighborhood Design (TND) site layout: Front setbacks were minimized to better connect homes with pedestrian traffic. Parking was located behind the dwellings.
2. Connectivity: The neighborhood provides multiple entrance points for easier access.
3. Bike parking: At least one space per unit will be provided.
4. Site location in the multi-modal transportation district: The development will promote alternative transportation with sidewalks, bike parking, and easy access to bus routes.
5. Mixed use: The development incorporates commercial and residential areas.
6. Financial contribution: The developer will reduce the allowable developer fee and contractor fee for approximately $712,000 contribution to the partnership.

Staff recommends that the City contribute to the public-private partnership in the following ways, contingent upon the award of a CWHIP loan from the state:
$5,000 from Tree Bank funds to plant more trees on site than required by the environmental permit along the right of way.
$2,000 per unit from the Electric Utility for implementing energy efficient design elements to succeed in the green certification.
$36,000 for water and sewer tap and system fee exemptions for households earning 80% AMI (for at least 20% of workforce units or 19 units).
Down Payment Assistance for any households earning 80% AMI (at least 20% of workforce units or 19 units).
Expedited permitting for the project.

Waiver of waive environmental permit fees (based on impervious acreage on site).

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:01 AM

UPdate | 3.14.08

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:18 AM

View PostFlorida, on Mar 14 2008, 12:01 PM, said:

UPdate | 3.14.08

NEW RENDERINGS NOW AVAILABLE

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those are nice Florida.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:19 AM

You can thank Conn & Associates for them!




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