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[Jones133]

I was thinking that was parking deck so far but I did not get a good look at it.

[orulz]

This is the best I've been able to find. I think this is the actual site plan as approved by the city. It does seem to show what might be eleven townhomes along Concord in front of the parking deck. I could be wrong.


Also, looks like the new 5-story building will be larger than I thought. The Technician has an article that mentions Capital Comics will be coming down to make room for it as well. It will take up the entire block from Concord to Friendly, and will have an 1,100 space (!!!!) parking deck behind it. Tenants will include:

• Kerr Drug
• Wake Tech
• University of Phoenix
• Some sort of healthcare facility targeted at students and faculty
• A top-floor restaurant similar in concept to Top Of The Hill

The site plan has yet to be posted on the city's website, so we have no idea what it will look like yet.

[orulz]

Found this in the 6/1/2010 meeting minutes of the Raleigh City Council:

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Mack A. Paul, IV, Capstone Development Corporation, reports that on October 7, 2009, the Council approved SP-125-07, Stanhope Village Student Housing Center, with a condition that the petitioner pursue a variance from the Board of Adjustment that would allow residential units on the ground level of the structured parking deck instead of office units.  The petitioner obtained that variance and is now required by City Code to have the site plan re-approved by City Council; therefore, the petitioner is seeking re-approval of SP-125-07.

Looks like the initial plan was for offices facing Stanhope Avenue but that was revised to be residential units as a part of the approval process.

If they're not actually part of the parking deck structure, then they'll probably be built after the deck is complete, and will probably be stick built. The townhome units in the above site plan seem to be about 20ft deep and 30 ft wide.

[DwnTwnRaleighGuy]

orulz, on 30 July 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

This is the best I've been able to find. I think this is the actual site plan as approved by the city. It does seem to show what might be eleven townhomes along Concord in front of the parking deck. I could be wrong.


Also, looks like the new 5-story building will be larger than I thought. The Technician has an article that mentions Capital Comics will be coming down to make room for it as well. It will take up the entire block from Concord to Friendly, and will have an 1,100 space (!!!!) parking deck behind it. Tenants will include:

• Kerr Drug
• Wake Tech
• University of Phoenix
• Some sort of healthcare facility targeted at students and faculty
• A top-floor restaurant similar in concept to Top Of The Hill

The site plan has yet to be posted on the city's website, so we have no idea what it will look like yet.

Thank you for providing this information!!!

Per the comments in the Technician, how is this project to be built upon for 100 years? Last 100 years??? But built upon?

[orulz]

I went by this area this morning and it looks like they are currently pouring the sixth floor of the main apartment building.

[orulz]

There is a site plan for the second phase of Stanhope Center / Valentine Commons. It is mostly 5-7 stories. There are two buildings facing Hillsborough Street - one at the corner of Hillsborough and Concord, and the other at the corner of Hillsborough and Friendly. There is a massive parking deck, but the deck is screened by buildings almost all the way around. The only unscreened portion is a parking lot that faces HIllsborough Street, between the two buildings mentioned above, though there are no curb cuts from Hillsborough Street to the parking lot (the parking lot is accessed from the rear.)

The site plan has architectural elevations depicting the parking deck building and the residential buildings screening it, but not the two buildings facing Hillsborough Street.

The deck is mostly screened by several 7-story buildings containing 126 residential units as below:
28 4-bedroom units
28 2-bedroom units
10 2-story, 2-bedroom units
60 1-bedroom units

All in all this seems pretty good. I'm not too pleased with the parking lot along Hillsborough but it seems to be done in a way that's not super intrusive so I'm not terribly upset either. I suppose in some theoretical future where there is less demand for parking near NC State (yeah, right...) the parking lot could be redeveloped into another building.

I'm interested to see renderings of the two buildings that will be along Hillsborough.

[orulz]

This is what the building at the corner of Hillsborough & Friendly will look like (w/ Kerr Drug).

[Justin6882]

I actually really like it - it will fit in with other buildings at State.

[Jones133]

Looks like another JDavis special. Totally fine and has a decent techy clean look. But this does not undo the fact that about twelve commercial spaces will be lost between Friendly and Concord, several about 100 years old with 4 inch hardwood floors and pressed tin ceilings (Blue flame was one but its gone now). Raleigh has maybe 50 such buildings left. So not only are we reducing the number of small affordable places that college type businesses can open in, but you are erasing most of the history of this end of Hillsborough Street. Tearing down Zaxbys and putting in this building alongside refurbished old buildings would have been a better total urban package. I realize of course, that Valentine does not own the Zaxbys property.