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[kermit]

REeyes, on 03 February 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

Speaking of beer and this could just be a rumor, but does anyone have any more info on the brewery that is supposed to be built in South End?  Triple C - or something to that extent?

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Harker hopes construction will begin in the next couple of weeks with an opening date now set for early summer.

from WCNC yesterday: http://www.wcnc.com/...-138582449.html

Their facebook page has demolition picts: ... like it will be a while.

[kermit]

Just back from a walk along the rail trail between Remont and Tremont. The site work for Southline Apartments is full speed ahead (all foundations are gone and site drainage is going in). This has made Spectrum feel much less like its at the end of the earth -- it actually begins to feel like its in the middle of something now.

Despite the new 'brightness' of the Specturm / Dunavant area it is still a very isolated spot for pedestrians. While you are only a couple hundred feet (as the crow files) from Atherton mill / Lowes / Cannon Drugs its a very long walk due to the LRT tracks being uncrossable here. Some type of pedestrian crossing around Spectrum / Dunavant / Iverson Way would go a long way to tieing this part of Southend together and (given the apartment projects in the area) possibly stimulating more pedestrian friendly development along South blvd and in Atherton mill.

The crossing could be at grade (there are plenty of these at street crossings already), a bridge (it would not be easy to get above the catenery) or (as I have whined about in the past) a new station stop. Whatever route taken I think improving pedestrian connectivity down there would have significant benefits down the road.

[nonillogical]

I agree, an at-grade crossing there seems like a no-brainer immediate solution. I don't know if its been talked about, but extending Iverson itself across the tracks seems like it would be an even better idea in the long term.

[dubone]

An Iverson-Dunavant connector has long been discussed on Urban Planet, but I don't think there are any government plans for it. It is absolutely a no-brainer, although CATS is wary of too many crossings that'll slow them down, but I think they benefit in the long run from helping to synthesize that area into neighborhood.  

Meanwhile the Poindexter crossing is in the works and I think is almost approved to move forward with the development.  

While I know the lots were cleared near the tracks, but I do hope some infill can go in around Distribution Dr that will retain some of the light industry and commercial operators there.  SouthEnd shouldn't just be a bedroom community, and these businesses are employers in the neighborhood, so it would be nice to figure out a way to improve the area but still keep them.

[kermit]

Two electric car chargers were being installed on S. Blvd street spaces in front of Circle today.

[dubone]

That's cool.    I hope it adds consciousness to people that electrification of the automobile is a long term inevitability.

[uptownliving]

I think that CATS would be fine with a crossing as long as the developers front a good chunk of the cost...just like they did for the Poindexter crossing which should be going in soon....there was debate/talk of putting in a stop there that would be about halfway between East/West and New Bern....if the area continues to develop and densify then the cost and time loss of putting in another stop could be justified in the future.

[kermit]

no sign of work at the old Silos site but they were removing foundations at the Fountains (?) site at the corner of New Bern and Foster (adjacent to the LRT maintance facility).

I also drove by Triple C brewing -- its a LONG way off.

[southslider]

dubone, on 06 February 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

An Iverson-Dunavant connector has long been discussed on Urban Planet, but I don't think there are any government plans for it.

Actually, the City's adopted New Bern Station Area Plan calls for the connection:
http://charmeck.org/...s/New Bern.aspx

Hopefully, there was follow-through, then, by City staff reviewing plans for this development.

[kermit]

^ Thanks for the link Southsider! I had forgotten about the plans.

[kermit]

Today's CBJ is reporting on what I believe is a new apartment project. 153 units in two buildings will go in behind Prices Chicken Coop in the space between Camden, Tryon, Kingston and Park called the Park and Kingston Apartments in South End.

Marsh Properties and Merrifield Patrick Vermillion are partnering on the project. Narmour Wright and LandDesign are designing. Groundbreaking is planned for this summer.

http://www.bizjourna...s.html?page=all

[ah59396]

kermit, on 10 February 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

Today's CBJ is reporting on what I believe is a new apartment project. 153 units in two buildings will go in behind Prices Chicken Coop in the space between Camden, Tryon, Kingston and Park called the Park and Kingston Apartments in South End.

Marsh Properties and Merrifield Patrick Vermillion are partnering on the project. Narmour Wright and LandDesign are designing. Groundbreaking is planned for this summer.

http://www.bizjourna...s.html?page=all

Hooray for density!

[Dub_Ag]

Does anybody know what's going on with the three recently demo'd parcels between South Blvd and the rail just north of Remount?

[norm21499]

Dub_Ag, on 15 February 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Does anybody know what's going on with the three recently demo'd parcels between South Blvd and the rail just north of Remount?

Apartments I think?

[Prodev]

Southline Apartments site plan doesn't take into consideration the Iverson connection, and the city has no plans to fund it in the short term, so this connection is dead for all intensive purposes. The connection would drastically limit Cherokee/Pappas's development potential on South as well since it cuts right throug the middle of the site.

[Prodev]

The 3 parcels at Remount and South they're just finishing the demo on the existing buildings which includes asbestos removal which is why it seems to be taking so long. No immediate plans for this site.

[southslider]

Prodev, on 15 February 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

Southline Apartments site plan doesn't take into consideration the Iverson connection, and the city has no plans to fund it in the short term, so this connection is dead for all intensive purposes. The connection would drastically limit Cherokee/Pappas's development potential on South as well since it cuts right throug the middle of the site.

I agree that the City should have been willing to put some money behind their own plans.  But to say that a connection would go right "through the middle of the site" is a huge stretch.  Surely, Cherokee/Pappas would assemble multiple parcels for development, just as Cherokee did for Southline Apartments.  For comparison, Southline was able to provide multiple connections to Dunavant, even though those streets, albeit private, run right "through the middle of (that) site."  Afterall, residential parking lots, parking decks, or private garages for multi-family residential all require some sort of vehicular access.  What a waste of a traffic signal at Lowe's, too, since this connection could have also helped Greater South End residents not only cross the LYNX line, but also South Boulevard.

So yes, I personally blame BOTH the City and Cherokee/Pappas.  Granted, Pappas does have a history of only doing connections (Metropolitan, Scaleybark, Berewick), when City taxpayers largely foot the bill.

[Prodev]

Cherokee/Pappas acquired the Southline site, but has since sold it to JDH, who is developing the apartments on the 11 acres, so the site planning is on their behalf, not Cherokee/Pappas. They provide access to Dunavant because it's a garden apartment deal with surface parking and they have to provide some form of ingress/egress, so I don't really understand your logic. The site I was referring to the connector road running right through the middle is the 3.6 acre site that sits directly at the light at South and Iverson. If the connection happened, it would leave 200' on the south side and 100' on the north side with about 400' of depth. Not sure how you develop anything efficient and dense with that. It basically leaves you with enough land for outparcel/fast food users which is obviously not the intention.

[southslider]

Prodev, on 17 February 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

The site I was referring to the connector road running right through the middle is the 3.6 acre site that sits directly at the light at South and Iverson.

Your logic assumes a development on ONE parcel, when Cherokee owns MULTIPLE parcels along South Boulevard, just as they owned MULTIPLE parcels along Dunavant, which they then sold to JDH for Southline.

Plus, Pappas has a record of developing large projects.  Granted, Pappas often sells off smaller portions of his master plan to other developers. For example, Pappas is selling land to Levine for apartments at Metropolitan.

Are you telling us that this ONE parcel opposite Lowe's, unlike all the others, will actually be developed by itself?  That would be interesting, since adjoining parcels are also owned by Cherokee.

[Dub_Ag]

Iverson road connection through that site is dead for all intents and purposes. That city plan was old and dated and with JLB building without plans for connections, the extension is no longer feasible. Also no stop planned at that juncture either.

Southslider, the adjoining sites across from Lowes are owned by two different people. There's a 4.2 acre parcel on the north butting up to the Atherton Lofts owned by a family and then the adjoining 3.6 acres right next to the car wash owned by Cherokee. There's also a +-1.5 acre parcel inbetween the carwash and Off Broadway store owned by Cherokee and then the 3.5 acre parcel at the corner of Remount and South is owned by Cherokee. Other than that, Cherokee owns two other very small parcels off of Dunavant that JLB decided not to purchase (0.5-1.2 acre parcels).

I've heard the question posed in previous threads, but I was wondering if anyone had any new news as to whether or not a grocer was going to come to South End with all the recent residential development going on. I know there's a home market, but I'd think that a Harris Teeter or someone would put in something along South Blvd somewhere.