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[cityboi]

Euphorius, on 11 March 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

I added the numbers up for the Triangle and Triad CMSA. The Triad was 1,599,477 and The Triangle was 1,749,525. This was done quickly, so not 100% sure of the accuracy.

roughly 150,000 more people which isn't that much larger. But i'm sure the gap could widen.

[krazeeboi]

Could widen? More like it is widening. The Triangle is growing a good bit faster than the Triad. It was only a few years ago that the Triad was actually larger.

[twincity]

cityboi, on 11 March 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

I'd like to see where the (CMSA) Combined Metropolitan Statistical Areas stand. Greensboro, Winston-Salem, High Point and the other counties remains intact as a CMSA. Same for the Triangle cities.

Those 2009 estimates were also off quite a bit for some cities in NC. The 2009 estimate for Greensboro was 250,000 but the 2010 census population is 269,666. I don't recall Greensboro annexing 10,000 people between July 2009 and 2010. There was a mass annexation in Greensboro  recently but I think it was before the 2009 estimates.

  
The estimate released in 2009 was for the prior year, 2008.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

The literal gap is not what is important, it is the longterm growth rate, and it is clear that not only is the Triangle growing much faster than the Triad, but the Triangle is growing faster than just about any other metro in the entire nation!

[aceboogie]

DCMetroRaleigh, on 12 March 2011 - 12:30 PM, said:

The literal gap is not what is important, it is the longterm growth rate, and it is clear that not only is the Triangle growing much faster than the Triad, but the Triangle is growing faster than just about any other metro in the entire nation!

The Triangle is definitely growing faster percentage wise. It's incredible. But Charlotte is adding more residents than Raleigh numerically. I do see the Triangle and Triad gap widening. That's not saying the Triad is doing anything bad or is not growing. But compared to Charlotte and Raleigh, the growth is not fast or as much.

[aceboogie]

DCMetroRaleigh, on 12 March 2011 - 12:30 PM, said:

The literal gap is not what is important, it is the longterm growth rate, and it is clear that not only is the Triangle growing much faster than the Triad, but the Triangle is growing faster than just about any other metro in the entire nation!

The Triangle is definitely growing faster percentage wise. It's incredible. But Charlotte is adding more residents than Raleigh numerically. I do see the Triangle and Triad gap widening. That's not saying the Triad is doing anything bad or is not growing. But compared to Charlotte and Raleigh, the growth is not fast or as much.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

I am anxious to see the 2011 MSA estimates.

[RALBOI]

DCMetroRaleigh, on 09 January 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

I am anxious to see the 2011 MSA estimates.

I would like to see them as well, citiboi how you been?

[DCMetroRaleigh]

Fayetteville MSA is booming!  In fact, the Fayetteville metro area - which is Cumberland and Hoke counties - grew by 2.1 percent between 2010 and 2011, enough to rank 23rd out of the nation's 366 metro areas. It has the 66th highest numerical increase in the nation.   The metro had never cracked the top 100 in the previous 10 years.  Cumberland County increased to 324,885 people July 1, 2011, an increase of 5,454 in 12 months.  Hoke County had an estimated 49,272, an increase of  2,320 over the same period.  Thus, the Fayetteville MSA had an estimated 374,157 at that time.  Interestingly, adjacent Harnett County was the second-fastest-growing in the state with a gain of 4,578 people, or 4 percent growth.  It had 119,292 people.

The Fayetteville MSA is the 137th most populous MSA in the nation,having leapfrogged Tallahassee.  

Edited by DCMetroRaleigh, 07 April 2012 - 09:56 AM.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

The Raleigh-Cary metropolitan area population grew 2.9 percent from April 1, 2010, to July 1, 2011. That rate was the fifth highest nationwide. The estimated July 1, 2011 population of Raleigh-Cary MSA was 1,163,515, an increase of 26.218 from July 1, 2010. The 12-month growth rate was 2.3 percent. Raleigh-Cary had the 23rd highest numerical increase for that 12-month period, fifth highest growth rate. Raleigh-Cary is the 47th most populous MSA in the nation.

It is interesting to note that in April 2000, the old Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill MSA had an estimated 1,187,941 people. Hence, the newish Raleigh-Cary MSA is currently the size of the old Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill MSA in 2000. Incredible!

[DCMetroRaleigh]

By the Census Bureau’s reckoning, the Dunn micro area, which consists wholly of Harnett County, gained more residents in the 15 months ending last July 1 than any other micro area in the nation. The county added an estimated 4,578 residents, bringing its population to 119,256.

That 4 percent increase was the fifth-fastest rate of growth among the country’s 575 micropolitan areas.

Read more here: http://www.newsobser...l#storylink=cpy

Edited by DCMetroRaleigh, 07 April 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

From July 1, 2010 to July 1, 2011, the Winston-Salem MSA grew by 0.7 percent  or 3,549 people to 482,025.  It had the 157th largest growth rate, 98th largest numerical growth.  It is the 105th largest MSA in the United States. It will be interesting to see if it reaches half a million residents by the end of the decade.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

According to the US Census, Asheville grew from 425,567 people to 429,017 from July 1, 2010 to July 1, 2011, an increase of 3,450 or 0.8 percent. Asheville MSA had the 139th largest growth percentage, 101st largest numerical increase in the nation. It is the 116th largest MSA in the nation.

According the US Census, the Wilmington MSA increased from 363,776 to 369,685 from July 1, 2010 to July 1, 2011, an increase of 5,909 people or 1.6 percent. It had the 32nd highest growth rate, or 71st largest numerical increase. Wilmington is the 139th largest MSA in the nation.

Edited by DCMetroRaleigh, 07 April 2012 - 10:53 AM.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

The question is will Harnett County become annexed into the Raleigh-Cary or Fayetteville MSAs when the new MSAs are defined.  IF not this time, probably the next decade.

The current Raleigh-Cary MSA is somewhat larger than Charlotte's MSA was in 1990. In 1990, Charlotte's MSA had 1,162,093 people.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

Out of the 50 largest MSAs in 2011, Charlotte has the 6th highest growth rate, Raleigh has the 2nd highest. Austin has the highest rate of growth at 3.20 percent. Charlotte added roughly the same number of new residents as Chicago and Boston, Raleigh roughly the same as San Jose.

Edited by DCMetroRaleigh, 09 April 2012 - 07:17 PM.

[NcSc74]

I also read that NC still had a high rural population.  I wonder what the definition of rural is.  Is it what we think of like one householdper so many sqaure miles or how far away from an urban center a certain concentration of population is.  I know in the east most people live within an hour of a population center of 50K so I am assuming that isnt the metric used.  I'm looking forward to an uptick in the economy so CLT and RDU can crash that 2 million MSA ceiling.  That would put NC in some fine company.  Heck the Triad wouldnt be to far behind itself.  It should be an exciting stretch to get there.