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[citylife]

Possibly a new bank from what I hear.

[vicupstate]

citylife, on 04 January 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Possibly a new bank from what I hear.

Well that is a good location for one. When you say 'new' do you mean a new 'branch' or a bank that is new to this market ? BTW, the KFC parcel has the same owner as two adjoining parcels in the Church-Tindal-Augusta triangular block. That leaves only one other parcel in that block. Do you know if all three parcels were for sale or just the KFC one?

Edited by vicupstate, 04 January 2012 - 02:39 PM.

[citylife]

Certus Bank is who I am hearing bought the old KFC. Sorry for the late response.

[vicupstate]

Thanks !  That is good to hear.  Being new. I hope they create a high standard here in there HQ city. I hope they have a good design with nice landscaping, that will help set a standard for the new appearance of the street.

[vicupstate]

Certus Bank bought all THREE parcels.  should be a big change in appearance.

[GvilleSC]

vicupstate, on 16 January 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

Certus Bank bought all THREE parcels.  should be a big change in appearance.

The pressure is on them to make a statement on that corner as it now becomes the gateway to the new Church Street and really, downtown/West End.

[vicupstate]

From the Alta Vista meeting tonight, the new design for the Walmart is in Bentonville pending approves.  It should be though that  process approximately in April.

[gsupstate]

Unless the design changes perform a miracle and change a Walmart into a Target, then, doesn't really matter.  Low end retail for city center.  Yea!!!!!!

[GvilleSC]

gsupstate, on 29 February 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Unless the design changes perform a miracle and change a Walmart into a Target, then, doesn't really matter.  Low end retail for city center.  Yea!!!!!!

Despite the tenant, the physical design does matter.

[gsupstate]

GvilleSC, on 29 February 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Despite the tenant, the physical design does matter.

Not IMO.  The fact the city let Walmart in.......grow some Greenville.  If it is 130,000 square feet with acres of parking, or half that size with a parking deck.....doesn't matter.......past it here.  It is WALMART.  I expected better from Greenville.

[vicupstate]

gsupstate, on 29 February 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Not IMO.  The fact the city let Walmart in.......grow some Greenville.  If it is 130,000 square feet with acres of parking, or half that size with a parking deck.....doesn't matter.......past it here.  It is WALMART.  I expected better from Greenville.

Greenville hasn't approved ANYTHING at this location YET, and may very well not do so.

It is a free country, neither Walmart nor Dollar General nor fill-in-the-blank can be banned out of existence simply because of snobbery.  

I would prefer Target myself, but not if they wanted the same design Walmart started with.

To say design doesn't matter undermines your own argument against it.

[gsupstate]

vicupstate, on 29 February 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Greenville hasn't approved ANYTHING at this location YET, and may very well not do so.

It is a free country, neither Walmart nor Dollar General nor fill-in-the-blank can be banned out of existence simply because of snobbery.  

I would prefer Target myself, but not if they wanted the same design Walmart started with.

To say design doesn't matter undermines your own argument against it.

Not really.  
Concern about the design of a Walmart is like putting lipstick on a pig.  
If Greenville is going to muck up downtown retail with a Walmart, then go whole hog.....muck it up in a grand way......stop being concerned about the design and bring on the payday loan stores, Sally beauty, and Family Dollar to complete the development.

[scgubers]

gsupstate, on 29 February 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Not really.  
Concern about the design of a Walmart is like putting lipstick on a pig.  
If Greenville is going to muck up downtown retail with a Walmart, then go whole hog.....muck it up in a grand way......stop being concerned about the design and bring on the payday loan stores, Sally beauty, and Family Dollar to complete the development.

Greenville has not approved anything. It is far from certain. So stop getting so worked up. I know for a fact that David Sudduth does not want this to be built. When Walmart first announced their plans he was extremely upset, and made sure there initial design would not get through. He holds an incredible amount of sway and power within the city, so if he doesn't want it, it probably will not happen. Calm down.

[dwfrp2010]

vicupstate, on 28 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

From the Alta Vista meeting tonight, the new design for the Walmart is in Bentonville pending approves.  It should be though that  process approximately in April.

I missed the meeting. Was there discussion behind the progress of the Church St. road work? I heard city officials were going to be there to discuss.

[vicupstate]

dwfrp2010, on 05 March 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

I missed the meeting. Was there discussion behind the progress of the Church St. road work? I heard city officials were going to be there to discuss.

There was some discussion mainly around speed limits and such.  Work should be finished by July.

[citylife]

The first decorative streetlight was being installed today at the intersection of University Ridge and Church Street. I figured they were going to look like the streetlights in ICAR or next to TD Bank. I was way wrong though. These look MUCH better than those. Gorgeous black ones. Kind of reminds me of the ones along Main Street in the West End.

[dwfrp2010]

GvilleSC, on 06 March 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

CIP for fiscal years 2013-2017:  http://issuu.com/cit...Color=%23007b57

Page 9 talks the Cancer Survivors Park and the addition of access from Church St. being in the budget (which I think may have been mentioned earlier from a news article). Both also noted as a finish date of June 2014... seems far off.

[dwfrp2010]

citylife, on 05 March 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

The first decorative streetlight was being installed today at the intersection of University Ridge and Church Street. I figured they were going to look like the streetlights in ICAR or next to TD Bank. I was way wrong though. These look MUCH better than those. Gorgeous black ones. Kind of reminds me of the ones along Main Street in the West End.

I would say they had in 15 or so when I drove home last night. Some of them actually have two lights, one on the street side and one on the sidewalk side. Once they remove the old stop light wires and the old street lights from the telephone poles and all the lighting looks consistent I think they will show even better.

I am still not sure how the bike lane is going to fit in. With the median being the size it is and the two lanes on each side, there does not seem like there is much, if any, room.

[GvilleSC]

dwfrp2010, on 07 March 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

I am still not sure how the bike lane is going to fit in. With the median being the size it is and the two lanes on each side, there does not seem like there is much, if any, room.

Last time I went down Church Street, the two travel lanes were pushed to the outside curb and there was about 3 or 4 feet of excess space around the medians (where work was being done). My understanding is that these lanes will shift back toward the center, and this excess space will be freed up and striped on the outside edge as a bike lane. Not sure what it looks like now, but several weeks ago there seemed to be enough space.

[dwfrp2010]

GvilleSC, on 07 March 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Last time I went down Church Street, the two travel lanes were pushed to the outside curb and there was about 3 or 4 feet of excess space around the medians (where work was being done). My understanding is that these lanes will shift back toward the center, and this excess space will be freed up and striped on the outside edge as a bike lane. Not sure what it looks like now, but several weeks ago there seemed to be enough space.

Hmm... you may be correct. The lanes are pushed towards the outer curb, but I dont remember seeing the excess space around the center median. Probably just missed it. Will look tonight.. thanks.