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[jolive]

THis is a great forum!

Edited by jolive, 05 August 2004 - 02:14 PM.

[Neo]

jolive, on Aug 5 2004, 04:11 PM, said:

THis is a great forum!

  

Very good to hear about your experience here!

[uptownliving]

Here are some more details on the Midtown Project, including an aerial schematic.



To orient you...the bottom of the pic is Kings Drive...in the middle road bisecting Kings is Independence Blvd. The road running along the top is Kennelworth St.

Before the project starts they are going to reconfigure some of the area streets:
-Independence will be realigned to intersect with Kennelworth and be directly connected to the 277 off ramp. Currentlly the road curves to the right after crossing Sugar Creek and takes you back to 3rd St.
-The Baxter St bridge will be taken down. Baxter St will end in the new development connecting with the main street.
-A new bridge and connector road will be built about 200 feet south of the current Baxter St. connecting Kings Dr and Kennelworth.



On the riight hand side is Phase I which is expected to start constrction in 2Q 2006. Currently on this site is the abandoned Charlottetown Cinemas.
Phase I is composed of:
95,000 sq ft Home Depot Expo
135,000 dq ft Target (above EXPO)
870 space parking deck.

Home Depot EXPOs have a market penetration of 125 miles. That compares with 20 miles for the typical Home Depot.

While Phase I is being built the Greenway will be developed as well. You can see the greenway in the pic as it runs along Sugar Creek.

Phase II will be built across Independence Blvd from Phase I and will consist of:
28,500 sq ft Restarants overlooking the greenway and downtown skyline.
138,000 sq ft Retail along the "main street"
92,000 sq ft Office
92 Unit 12-15 story Condo Tower overlooking the greenway.
1050 space parking deck.

Edited by uptownliving, 09 August 2004 - 05:20 PM.

[49er]

is that deck parking in phase one? and is that a free standing wendys?

thanks for the site plan, sad to hear construction is so far away now.

[uptownliving]

Yes and yes...that is a parking deck in phase 1 and that is a free standing wendys which is currently there in operation. I think the reason that construction of this is still 2 years out. is becasue they want the road reconfigs done first...to ensure good connections with 277.

Edited by uptownliving, 10 August 2004 - 10:43 AM.

[49er]

Right, I know the Wendys, but was thrown off by the creek being shown without asphalt over it. To me it looked like a new building instead of the existing one. I wonder if the street heading to the target/depot wil be lined with shops in the parking deck or just cars.

[uptownliving]

The Mecklenburg Co Commision voted tonight to have County Manager Harry Jones negotiate a deal with Pappas Properties and Charlotte to come up with a possible deal for the Midtown recevelopment. All the commisioners voted for it except for Bill James....who said that Midtown was "overpriced swampland"

[49er]

Leave it James. That guy has to be the most anti urban person to hold office in Charlotte. I really like this proposal though. I wonder if Wendys wont sell its property or is asking too much. When will road work begin I wonder?

[uptownliving]

If the deal goes through...the roadwork could begin at the end of this year.

[49er]

Thanks for the updates. Its tough living in Raleigh now. I like it here a lot, but being from Charlotte I still follow developments more closely than most who still live there.

[Southend]

49er, on Aug 11 2004, 11:04 AM, said:

Thanks for the updates. Its tough living in Raleigh now. I like it here a lot, but being from Charlotte I still follow developments more closely than most who still live there.

not to divert the thread, but describe actually living in raleigh, if you don't mind.

[49er]

Well I'm still getting a feel for it. Politically, its very backward. City leaders like to do things their own way, regardless of what every other major city might do. There are a ton of good ol' boys still running things around here. Important people whose claim to fame might be that their granddaddy started the paper or great granddaddy was governor or...you get the drift. There are some urban projects happening, not nearly as many as in Charlotte. The roads arent as good as I thought theyd be, this being the Capital and all. As for the feel of the city, taxes are low and it shows a little in terms of upkeep of sidewalks, roads, the bus system etc.

the worse thing is that the anti urban, anti downtown folks are very vocal. If you think a lot of South Charlotte people dont care much for downtown, North Raleigh and Cary are worse. These are the anti urbanism pits of North Carolina. There are LITERALLY people who would like to see all of downtown imploded.


thats rambling for ya, hope it helps. no more hijacking the thread

[uptownliving]

...but the university scene is nice.

[Southend]

49er, on Aug 12 2004, 07:14 AM, said:

Well I'm still getting a feel for it. Politically, its very backward. City leaders like to do things their own way, regardless of what every other major city might do. There are a ton of good ol' boys still running things around here. Important people whose claim to fame might be that their granddaddy started the paper or great granddaddy was governor or...you get the drift. There are some urban projects happening, not nearly as many as in Charlotte. The roads arent as good as I thought theyd be, this being the Capital and all. As for the feel of the city, taxes are low and it shows a little in terms of upkeep of sidewalks, roads, the bus system etc.

the worse thing is that the anti urban, anti downtown folks are very vocal. If you think a lot of South Charlotte people dont care much for downtown, North Raleigh and Cary are worse. These are the anti urbanism pits of North Carolina. There are LITERALLY people who would like to see all of downtown imploded.


thats rambling for ya, hope it helps. no more hijacking the thread

Thanks for the info, 49er.

[monsoon]

[uptownliving]

monsoon, on Oct 8 2004, 11:08 AM, said:

Apparently the city is considering a 17 million dollar package which would allow Pappas and others to develop the property.   They are expected to vote on it in November.

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To clarify: the total package is $17M partial tax exemption over a 10 year period. The City's share of that will be a lot less than $17M....I beleive their portion will be closer to $8M...the rest will be made up by Meck Co.

[dubone]

The final public contribution by the city was approved this week.   I just saw some of the plans from the City Council Mtg. ( Does anyone have a copy  to post?)

The Wendy's is actually moving, but is still an out-parcel restaurant on this site.

I think this project will really cause some of the under-utilized  lots along old Independence and King's to sprout into action.    I also like the fact that the city is fixing the flubbed  up intersection of Stonewall, 277, Kenilworth, Independence, and Baxter.    from what I can see, they are reconnecting stonewall to Independence (the original route as seen in monsoon's posted old aerial)

[monsoon]

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Edited by cantnot, 16 November 2004 - 11:47 AM.

[Spartan]

I didn't know Charlotte had a Midtown, but there it is.