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[GRguy]

Check out the Jane Hotel. It is in the Village, but could be a great adventure. Rooms are small, some with shared bath, but the rates are great...

Edited by GRguy, 01 April 2009 - 11:33 AM.

[mallguy]

The Pod on 51st between 2nd and 3rd isn't that expensive and it's right near the E train stop at 53rd & 3rd (which as other have said connects to the Airtrain to JFK at Jamaica).  It's a short walk to Fifth Avenue and it's in midtown Manhattan; everything is definitely within walking or subway distance.  

I am a NY'er (now) and I hate Times Square- tourists, crowds, ghetto.

[The Voice of Reason]

mallguy, on May 9 2009, 09:26 PM, said:

The Pod on 51st between 2nd and 3rd isn't that expensive and it's right near the E train stop at 53rd & 3rd (which as other have said connects to the Airtrain to JFK at Jamaica). It's a short walk to Fifth Avenue and it's in midtown Manhattan; everything is definitely within walking or subway distance.

I am a NY'er (now) and I hate Times Square- tourists, crowds, ghetto.

I kind of want to reem you out.

the use of the phrase Gheto is entirely innapropriate in Manhattan.  you may be some kind of preppy kid from the burbs that is scared by urbanity, but time square is not ghetto by any sense of the word.

it is kitsch, it is touristy as all get out, but ghetto?

I am no fan of really anything touristy in NYC, but to call it ghetto is completely off base.

[Lowerdeck]

I can't stand Times Square, seeing it once was enough for me.  Far too touristy, far too crowded, far too many nutjobs trying to peddle crap (comedy show tickets, bootleg merchandise, religion, political agendas).  

Ghetto?  Well, unless you call all the creepy people trying to peddle crap as ghetto - I think not.

I don't get down there enough to explore more of the non-touristy things to do in New York.

[mallguy]

The Voice of Reason, on May 9 2009, 10:34 PM, said:

I kind of want to reem you out.

the use of the phrase Gheto is entirely innapropriate in Manhattan.  you may be some kind of preppy kid from the burbs that is scared by urbanity, but time square is not ghetto by any sense of the word.

it is kitsch, it is touristy as all get out, but ghetto?

I am no fan of really anything touristy in NYC, but to call it ghetto is completely off base.

FYI I have lived in Manhattan, apart from a brief break, for over 10 years- from lower Manhattan to Midtown to the Upper East Side. And you?

Edited by mallguy, 14 May 2009 - 06:00 PM.

[The Voice of Reason]

I do not give a damn where you live or have lived.  What you wrote was wrong.  think about what you wrote.  Times square is not ghetto.  Parts of the Bronx are "ghetto".  East St. Louis might be "ghetto". The North End of Hartford might be "ghetto", there are tons of places that can be called "ghetto" with some accuracy, but times square is not one of them.  Heck, even labeling the areas I just listed as ghetto is not fair, and reeks of elitism.

Using the term "ghetto" is inappropriate for times square.  It is a disservice to the area and especially when giving advice to someone visiting on a forum like this.

I have no problem saying every place I have lived and worked, and my contact with times square is maybe 1 dozen visits over the last 15 years when I had family around or whatever, but the fact is that your ignorant statement has nothing to do with where you live or have lived.  it is ignorant no matter your "qualifications".

Hey I hate Times square as well.  It is crowded, it is touristy, but its more corporate and cheezy that ghetto.

I stand by my innitial attack against your post.

[mallguy]

The Voice of Reason, on May 15 2009, 02:03 PM, said:

I have no problem saying every place I have lived and worked, and my contact with times square is maybe 1 dozen visits over the last 15 years when I had family around or whatever, but the fact is that your ignorant statement has nothing to do with where you live or have lived.  it is ignorant no matter your "qualifications".

So you want to physically attack me for my viewpoint, you swear and misspell words in your posts, and you admit to having very limited familiarity with Times Square?  

And you're doing this in front of someone who is planning a summer trip to NYC?

Times Square is ghetto, in my view, and I work in the Times Square area.  For the reasons I list above, I pay no attention to your attacks, other than to laugh hysterically at them.

Edited by mallguy, 16 May 2009 - 09:12 PM.

[The Voice of Reason]

mallguy, on May 16 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

So you want to physically attack me for my viewpoint, you swear and misspell words in your posts, and you admit to having very limited familiarity with Times Square?

And you're doing this in front of someone who is planning a summer trip to NYC?

Times Square is ghetto, in my view, and I work in the Times Square area. For the reasons I list above, I pay no attention to your attacks, other than to laugh hysterically at them.

First off, pissing and moaning on the internet is not really something I get joy out of, regardless, here is in my opinion the end on the subject.

I never personally attacked you.  I certainly never physically attacked you or your ego would not be the only thing injured.  If you took my judgement of your words as a personal attack I am sorry, but it is not my fault you took it personally.  The fact however is that I attacked your position I attacked the act of making an ignorant statement.  good people make absolutely stupid statements all the time.  It does not make the person stupid.  I admit to making stupid statements all the time.  

on to Ghetto, lets face it, some words are trouble.  You used one of them and you are welcome to, but you are to be judged for it just as I am to be judged for "swearing and mispelling"

when did damn become swearing?  someone call George Carlin!!!
damn made it past the censors in Casablanca, but I digress

fact is, I type the way I talk, so swearing will happen.  You are certainly welcome to call me out on since it is something I wish I did a little less(but I mean real swear words).  As far as the spelling, I taught myself to type and I am clumsy.  me aculpa.  calling out someones spelling on the internet is weak sauce.  I could run spell check, I do not.  pick on my swearing all you want.  pick on my spelling too, but there is no defense for calling Times Square ghetto to a potential tourist who is planning on going there.  You can warn someone away from an unsafe area for real reasons of personal safety.  However, tainting someones view of a safe place before they even venture there, and to do it in a flippant manner is just sad.  The whole point of travel is seeing what you have never seen and making your own experience.  dispelling myths, proving steryotypes, whatever.  

Ghetto is a term that goes back to the Jewish Ghettos in Europe, at least it does as far as I know, but I'm not going to look it up just like I do not spell check my posts.  It might even translate into neighborhood from yittish or something like that?  Those old ghettos are actually usually very nice areas now, but the term Ghetto has lived on and now a ghetto is some mix of what you imagine in "South Central" LA or Detroit and what a true real modern ghetto is in India or Africa.  so if you are going to use a pointed term like Ghetto and bring up images of Calcutta, or Krenshaw when talking about times square?  are you serious?

midwestern tourists in Khacki shorts, black socks and sandals are terrifying, I agree, but not ghetto.

re read what was writen in the other posts  I am done.
and frankly mallguy I dont give a damn.

[HAMMETTM]

Well it's been a while but I've finally made my decision. I will be staying at the Wellington Hotel in Midtown (I guess that's midtown) Manhattan. It isn't too far away from Times Square (or at least it doesn't look too far according to Google Earth). I'll have to see just how "ghetto" or "cheesey" Times Square is but I'll make my own experience out of it all. More than likely when I do go to Times Square I won't notice either of those things because I'm looking for something totally different.

If anyone knows anything about the Wellington or about any fun things to do in proximity of it, I'll be happy to see your suggestions.