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#1 zman9810

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:56 PM

After a scary road rage incident years ago and many years of employment related defensive driving training I think I have become a good safe driver but I still find myself in situations where I could be in an accident. Case in point; I'm driving down the freeway in the outside lane coming up to an entrance ramp. There is a vehicle gaining speed on the ramp with plenty of room for it to merge before I reach it. To make sure it has room I take my foot off the gas pedal and check for traffic on the inside lane in case I need to get over. As the vehicle reaches the merging lane it seems to be keeping a steady speed as I am slowing down- still plenty of room to get over. As it reaches the end of the merging lane it moves over to the traffic lane and I see it's brake lights. I have to make a last second lane change in order to not hit it. If there had been traffic in the inside lane it would have been a choice to rearend the merging vehicle or sideswipe whatever was in the inside lane. As I go by I see a finger waving at me! :angry:

I guess what was expected was that I would move over regardless of whether the driver had room to merge or not. It would have been an unnecessary lane change on a busy freeway out of a fake display of courtesy. It was the same as when you pull up to a fourway stop sign and the driver already stopped there waves you across. Or when a driver is stopped in the inside lane of a city 4 lane street and is waving someone to make a left hand turn in front of them without regard for what is coming up behind in the outside lane ( that happened at College and Poplar and a person was killed).

Hers's what the state driving manual says about it,

Merging With Traffic When you merge with traffic, try to enter at the same speed
that traffic is moving. High-speed roadways generally have ramps to give you time to
build up speed. Use the ramp to reach the speed of the other vehicles before you pull
onto the road. Do not drive to the end of the ramp and stop. This will not leave you
enough room to get up to the speed of traffic. Also, drivers behind you will not expect
you to stop. If they are watching traffic on the main road, you may be hit from the rear.
If you have to wait for space to enter the roadway, slow down on the ramp so you have
some room to speed up before you have to merge."

I wonder if yearly driving tests are needed. At least some sort of defensive driving training required when you renew your liscense every fout years would help.

Anyway....just writing about I feel better already :)

Anybody else got a driving story to share? It's great therapy!

Edited by zman9810, 26 May 2009 - 12:58 PM.


 

#2 skirby

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:33 PM

After a scary road rage incident years ago and many years of employment related defensive driving training I think I have become a good safe driver but I still find myself in situations where I could be in an accident. Case in point; I'm driving down the freeway in the outside lane coming up to an entrance ramp. There is a vehicle gaining speed on the ramp with plenty of room for it to merge before I reach it. To make sure it has room I take my foot off the gas pedal and check for traffic on the inside lane in case I need to get over. As the vehicle reaches the merging lane it seems to be keeping a steady speed as I am slowing down- still plenty of room to get over. As it reaches the end of the merging lane it moves over to the traffic lane and I see it's brake lights. I have to make a last second lane change in order to not hit it. If there had been traffic in the inside lane it would have been a choice to rearend the merging vehicle or sideswipe whatever was in the inside lane. As I go by I see a finger waving at me! :angry:

I guess what was expected was that I would move over regardless of whether the driver had room to merge or not. It would have been an unnecessary lane change on a busy freeway out of a fake display of courtesy. It was the same as when you pull up to a fourway stop sign and the driver already stopped there waves you across. Or when a driver is stopped in the inside lane of a city 4 lane street and is waving someone to make a left hand turn in front of them without regard for what is coming up behind in the outside lane ( that happened at College and Poplar and a person was killed).

Hers's what the state driving manual says about it,

Merging With Traffic When you merge with traffic, try to enter at the same speed
that traffic is moving. High-speed roadways generally have ramps to give you time to
build up speed. Use the ramp to reach the speed of the other vehicles before you pull
onto the road. Do not drive to the end of the ramp and stop. This will not leave you
enough room to get up to the speed of traffic. Also, drivers behind you will not expect
you to stop. If they are watching traffic on the main road, you may be hit from the rear.
If you have to wait for space to enter the roadway, slow down on the ramp so you have
some room to speed up before you have to merge."

I wonder if yearly driving tests are needed. At least some sort of defensive driving training required when you renew your liscense every fout years would help.

Anyway....just writing about I feel better already :)

Anybody else got a driving story to share? It's great therapy!


I think a question should be raised about the driver tests themselves. A couple of years ago in a town outside of Little Rock driver's tests were given once a week. After taking the written test the state policeman would get into the test takers car an take off on the driving part of the test. This including going around a couple of residential city blocks and returning to the testing point. I even saw one test taker run up on the curb but they still passed. Does driving around in a residential are qualify a person to drive?
I did read a few months ago that fewer an fewer 16 year olds are taking the test. I think it has to do with liability and parents are not willing to pay the cost of insurance. Getting a license is very important but a large number of school districts do not offer any driver training. They can offer a course like Clothing Management but not Driver Education.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 07:27 PM

I can't count how many times similar things have happened to me. Another common issue is people slamming on their brakes on the freeway so that people can merge at 50-55 mph, this causes traffic to immediately backup behind them as well as reinforcing the bad behavior that ultimately caused the situation in the first place.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:25 AM

I think a question should be raised about the driver tests themselves. A couple of years ago in a town outside of Little Rock driver's tests were given once a week. After taking the written test the state policeman would get into the test takers car an take off on the driving part of the test. This including going around a couple of residential city blocks and returning to the testing point. I even saw one test taker run up on the curb but they still passed. Does driving around in a residential are qualify a person to drive?
I did read a few months ago that fewer an fewer 16 year olds are taking the test. I think it has to do with liability and parents are not willing to pay the cost of insurance. Getting a license is very important but a large number of school districts do not offer any driver training. They can offer a course like Clothing Management but not Driver Education.

Good point- the test isn't a good measure of a new driver's ability in the actual conditions they will face. Considering the costs to society in the loss of life and injuries plus the costs of car repairs, etc due to driving you would think that there would be much more emphasis placed on driver education. If anything else caused 40,000 unnatural deaths per year there would be a huge public outcry to do something about it but because it's driving it seems to be ok.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:29 AM

I can't count how many times similar things have happened to me. Another common issue is people slamming on their brakes on the freeway so that people can merge at 50-55 mph, this causes traffic to immediately backup behind them as well as reinforcing the bad behavior that ultimately caused the situation in the first place.

That's kind of what happened to me except the other driver had made it up to highway speed before they moved over and slowed down. They got off at the next exit so I figure it was like a local driver that regularly takes that same route. It makes a person wonder what the heck are they thinking...........

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:36 PM

What milestones are there for drivers after they receive their driver's license in this state? Can they retain their license for the rest of their life? I think people should at least be retested with a written test periodically. I think people forget basic rules like what to do at a four-way stop. Also, it could help disuade drivers from unnecessary courtesies such as ones that create inefficiencies in traffic movement. It could also add common sense, like not to wave people to turn when they are taking a left across two-lanes, as well as to ignore the waving when in the situation.

Something has to be done about handicap drivers who routinely drive well under the speed limit also. I would argue that they are not capable to drive. I think if we didn't have such a car culture, that more restrictions would be used.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:13 PM

I like the drivers who are eating a cheeseburger, while drinking something, talking on their cell all at the same time. Or merge through 3 lanes to turn left from a right lane, cut me off then drive 30 in a 55. Was on I-40 driving from the rock and passed a guy reading the newspaper while driving 70.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 08:57 PM

What milestones are there for drivers after they receive their driver's license in this state? Can they retain their license for the rest of their life? I think people should at least be retested with a written test periodically. I think people forget basic rules like what to do at a four-way stop. Also, it could help disuade drivers from unnecessary courtesies such as ones that create inefficiencies in traffic movement. It could also add common sense, like not to wave people to turn when they are taking a left across two-lanes, as well as to ignore the waving when in the situation.

Something has to be done about handicap drivers who routinely drive well under the speed limit also. I would argue that they are not capable to drive. I think if we didn't have such a car culture, that more restrictions would be used.

Other than the eye exam I don't think there are any reviews to get a renewal. I've known elderly drivers who were far past the point they should have been behind the wheel still get renewed every four years. This is even after they have had accidents that could have been very serious. It's left up to the individual as to whether or not they drive and that independence is extemely hard to give up. That goes for those handicaped drivers also. It's another good reason to have more public transportation options.

This would have been better put in the Coffee House section if you want to move it there, Mith.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:37 PM

It totally agree. A lot of drivers in this area are pretty lousy. It's like most of these people have never seen an on ramp.

FYI- if you are one of those who timidly approaches an on ramp at 45 MPH, it is YOUR responsibility to merge into traffic. I can't tell you how many times I have almost been in an accident because some clueless....

Ah, never mind. Yes, a lot of drivers in NWA need to get a clue...




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