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[CorgiMatt]

  I must have fallen in a time warp.

Edited by CorgiMatt, 31 July 2009 - 06:18 PM.

[krazeeboi]

It's OK; they change definitions so often you've got to work to keep up with them.

[CorgiMatt]

Would you agree, though, that MSA's have become more core-based by definition and that in order for cities to be included together in an MSA they have to function together more as one whole (one core) compared to the rest of the territory included in the MSA?  That's what I was getting at.  

I remember reading about and being aware of the changes in MSA's, etc., but obviously I forgot some of what I read.

[krazeeboi]

Well I really don't know exactly how the new MSA definition differs from the old, so it's hard to say. But what you're describing seems more applicable to metropolitan divisions that occur in metro areas of higher populations (2.5 million is the threshold I think).

[CorgiMatt]

By the time the GSA area hits 2.5 million, the three cities together will probably have the contiguous density needed to be considered one nucleus or core, and then they will probably be recombined as an MSA, unless by smart land use the three cities keep their distance from each other development-wise and continue to think of themselves as separate nuclei.

[krazeeboi]

CorgiMatt, on Aug 1 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

By the time the GSA area hits 2.5 million, the three cities together will probably have the contiguous density needed to be considered one nucleus or core, and then they will probably be recombined as an MSA, unless by smart land use the three cities keep their distance from each other development-wise and continue to think of themselves as separate nuclei.

I doubt that very seriously. Greer in particular seems eager to grow by any and all means necessary so they'll continue to rubber stamp anything that helps them in that regard.

[Spartan]

As will all of the counties in that area. The cities of Greenville, Spartanburg, and Anderson will be the only exceptions to this pattern.

[sumter]

krazeeboi, on Jul 31 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

This is incorrect according to the Census Bureau: "Metropolitan and micropolitan statistical areas (metro and micro areas) are geographic entities defined by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB) for use by Federal statistical agencies in collecting, tabulating, and publishing Federal statistics. The term 'Core Based Statistical Area' (CBSA) is a collective term for both metro and micro areas. A metro area contains a core urban area of 50,000 or more population, and a micro area contains an urban core of at least 10,000 (but less than 50,000) population."

Furthermore, this OMB attachment from 2007 shows that Columbia's metropolitan statistical area officially consists of Richland, Lexington, Kershaw, Fairfield, and Calhoun counties (pg. 29); Greenville's consists of Greenville, Pickens, and Laurens counties (pg. 34); and Spartanburg's consists of only Spartanburg County (pg. 50).

Okay why isnt Sumter MSA included in this.

[krazeeboi]

sumter, on Oct 6 2009, 10:22 AM, said:

Okay why isnt Sumter MSA included in this.

Included in what?

[Spartan]

If you're a Census 2010 junkie, you might find this article interesting. It discuses some of the challenges of address verification. It uses Lexington and Richland Counties as examples (since its from The State) but their situations are similar across the nation. Every city needs every address to be up to date and accurate.

The State

[vicupstate]

Greenville News reports that according to the 'American Community Survey', which is compiled by the census Bureau, Greenville County added 71,812 residents since 2000, for a total of 451,428.  Greenville City added 5,780 to reach a population of 61,782.  City growth rate was 10.3 and the County 18.9.  

Median Family Income rose 15.6 in the decade to 58,138. The number of residents 25 or older with at least a Bachelor's degree increased from 26.2 to 29.1 %, according to the survey.      


Population counts from the 2010 Census will be released next week. On December 21, it will be announced which states will gain or lose congressional seats from the new census.  It is believed that SC will gain a seat in Congress (and by extention, an electoral vote).    

Detailed demographic information from the 2010 census will be available in February.