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#1 cowboy_wilhelm

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 09:45 PM

I have a few suggestions/ideas for my area that I want to share with the Department of Transportation.  These ideas (for those interested or want to use them in reference to my question) are:

These ideas are not exactly "large," as in something you would see in the long-range Transportation Improvement Program, but rather minor improvements that I think would have a big impact and are critical for this area.  Turning lanes are added to roads all the time, and painting lines and adding signs don't exactly require years of planning.  They're not "pie in the sky" suggestions either, which I'm sure many transportation engineers/planners are used to hearing from over exuberant arm-chair engineers.

My question is, how in the world do I go about contacting the DOT with these ideas?  The hierarchical organization of the DOT makes it nearly impossible to know who to contact.  I attended the public meetings for a county Comprehensive Transportation Plan in 2006 (when I unfortunately hadn't thought up these specific improvements), so there won't be any more public involvement meetings for transportation in my area for several years.  Can I just e-mail the division engineer with suggestions, or is that a futile effort that will get no response?  I don't want to be on the "avoid" list every time they see a letter from me either, knowing that I'm a crackpot with more suggestions that they can't do anything about.

Has anyone on here had success in contacting the DOT with ideas/suggestions?  And if so, did they listen?  ;)

I also already know my transportation division (14) and district (1), but as you can see from those links, there are quite a few engineers to choose from.

I hope to hear back from others that like to become involved in OUR transportation system planning.  And it'd be REALLY great if someone on Urban Planet works for the DOT and has a suggestion for suggesting my suggestions.  Thanks a lot!

 

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 09:28 AM

You have to contact your state congressman for that stuff, as NCDOT can only do such projects that congress has funded and mandated them to do. Given how many projects they receive and how many roads they are responsible for, it could take years to get to projects. That being said, my experience with state congress has been that they will only act on such things when the get a HUGE number of complaints about the particular subject.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 12:36 PM

Cause a few fatal wrecks at that location and start a media storm. That'll usually get something done.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 02:11 PM

Going the political route is one way (as Gard suggests.)

Projects that are already planned will often have public input sessions, though it is unlikely that a single voice will be heard, so you'll need to bring a large group of like-minded individuals. And this only goes for projects that are already planned; though it is quite possible that the improvements you suggest could be included in some other project (for example, I-26 reconstruction if it's already planned).

The last way is the "proper" method. It goes something like this:

NCDOT's projects and priority lists (known as the TIP) are written by MPO's and RPO's. MPO's take input from the counties and municipalities within their jurisdiction. Each body creates a "priority list" ranking the projects that they think are the most important. The MPOs then weigh those priority lists against each other to come up with a final TIP. I think the projects you suggest would be in the FBRMPO. So, you should figure out which city / county the project you want to see belongs in. Then, find out which commissioner / councilor / whatever represents that location at the MPO, and let them know what you would like to see. It would also be worthwhile to find out what staff member from that county/city/whatever compiles the priority list and copy them on your e-mail as well. Even more effective would be to combine the political route (state reps and senators) with the MPO route.

Good luck. You have to remember that transportation money is scarce - EXTREMELY scarce. There's a HUGE backlog of important projects that are waiting for funding. Just your single voice honestly won't count for much so you'll need to get other people - preferrably important people - on board.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 03:58 PM

View Postcowboy_wilhelm, on 03 January 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

I have a few suggestions/ideas for my area that I want to share with the Department of Transportation.  These ideas (for those interested or want to use them in reference to my question) are:

These ideas are not exactly "large," as in something you would see in the long-range Transportation Improvement Program, but rather minor improvements that I think would have a big impact and are critical for this area.  Turning lanes are added to roads all the time, and painting lines and adding signs don't exactly require years of planning.  They're not "pie in the sky" suggestions either, which I'm sure many transportation engineers/planners are used to hearing from over exuberant arm-chair engineers.

My question is, how in the world do I go about contacting the DOT with these ideas?  The hierarchical organization of the DOT makes it nearly impossible to know who to contact.  I attended the public meetings for a county Comprehensive Transportation Plan in 2006 (when I unfortunately hadn't thought up these specific improvements), so there won't be any more public involvement meetings for transportation in my area for several years.  Can I just e-mail the division engineer with suggestions, or is that a futile effort that will get no response?  I don't want to be on the "avoid" list every time they see a letter from me either, knowing that I'm a crackpot with more suggestions that they can't do anything about.

Has anyone on here had success in contacting the DOT with ideas/suggestions?  And if so, did they listen?  Posted Image

I also already know my transportation division (14) and district (1), but as you can see from those links, there are quite a few engineers to choose from.

I hope to hear back from others that like to become involved in OUR transportation system planning.  And it'd be REALLY great if someone on Urban Planet works for the DOT and has a suggestion for suggesting my suggestions.  Thanks a lot!

Make a $4,000 contribution to the campaign of each candidate for Governor for both parties. This will cover your bases.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 10:09 PM

View Postorulz, on 04 January 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:


NCDOT's projects and priority lists (known as the TIP) are written by MPO's and RPO's. MPO's take input from the counties and municipalities within their jurisdiction. Each body creates a "priority list" ranking the projects that they think are the most important. The MPOs then weigh those priority lists against each other to come up with a final TIP. I think the projects you suggest would be in the FBRMPO. So, you should figure out which city / county the project you want to see belongs in. Then, find out which commissioner / councilor / whatever represents that location at the MPO, and let them know what you would like to see. It would also be worthwhile to find out what staff member from that county/city/whatever compiles the priority list and copy them on your e-mail as well. Even more effective would be to combine the political route (state reps and senators) with the MPO route.

The suggested projects are in Polk County, which is part of the Isothermal RPO.  I have thought about communicating with them first, since the MPO's and RPO's are focused on local planning and generally more involved with the public, so I'd likely hear a response.  This is probably the route I will take.

View Postorulz, on 04 January 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:


Projects that are already planned will often have public input sessions, though it is unlikely that a single voice will be heard, so you'll need to bring a large group of like-minded individuals. And this only goes for projects that are already planned; though it is quite possible that the improvements you suggest could be included in some other project (for example, I-26 reconstruction if it's already planned).

You hit the nail on the head with that one.  Repaving I-26 (TIP project I-5100) is on the January 19, 2010 project letting list.  The section being repaved is where the exit I mentioned in the original post is located.  The only problem is they don't have public hearings for pavement rehabilitation projects.

The pavement width is already there for a two-lane exit at Exit 67.  The only things needed to upgrade it are for the lines to be painted differently and new signs denoting a two-lane exit.  Seriously, that's it.  Maybe a couple of days worth of work.  It would make the exit more efficient and less confusing (some drivers already think that it is a two-lane exit).   Why it's not now, I don't know.  It looks as if it was initially planned to be a two-lane exit, but somebody screwed up the paint or didn't order the right signs and they had a no-return policy.  U.S. 74 continues with two lanes as a freeway literally feet after the exit splits from I-26, so it's essentially a bottleneck having this one lane exit leading from one freeway to another when it's completely unnecessary.

So, what my thinking for that improvement is, e-mail the division engineer and ask him if there are plans for Exit 67 to be upgraded to a two-lane exit during this project, and if not, why not?  Is there a specific reason this was never done before, and are there no plans for improving it?  That would be a simple, yet effective, improvement that can be done during the upcoming pavement rehabilitation project for I-26 when new lines are painted.  Perhaps all that is needed is some prodding, but such a small improvement hardly seems like something members of Congress need to be contacted about.  It's something I honestly don't think the public should even have to be contacting the DOT for!  It should have been done correctly the first time.  If I was suggesting a completely new exit or highway, then yes, I'd need all the political help I could get and would be facing a long and arduous process.  

As for the other two ideas I mentioned, it looks like contacting the RPO will be my best bet for working them into the planning process.

View Poststaffer, on 05 January 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

Make a $4,000 contribution to the campaign of each candidate for Governor for both parties. This will cover your bases.

I wouldn't even get $4,000 for my car.  I'm sure it'd work, though!

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:37 PM

I'd like for them to change the control cities at many of our major interstate interchanges.  Who in Raleigh really cares to go to Benson?  

Or at least keep them consistent.  Taking the ramp for I-485 Statesville/Pineville off of 85 and then being offered the option of Statesville or Columbia (huh..what happened to Pineville???) can be a bit confusing.

Why are cities so small and close used as control cities anyway?  In Atlanta they use the next major city (Greenville, Chattanooga, Birmingham, Macon).  Here in St. Louis, our interchanges use far away places such as Chicago, Memphis, Indianapolis, and Tulsa (over 400 miles away) as control cities.  

Typical rural NC politics.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:57 PM

Gov Perdue and Secretary Gene Conti are supposedly moving towards a decentralized NCDOT, where there is more work done at the District level as opposed to doing practically everything through Raleigh.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 05:06 PM

I agree about the control cities. When I was lived in NC I always thought I-95 when leaving Raleigh should be signed Fayetteville South, and Richmond North.  I remember reading once that the control cities are supposed to be the next metro area. Is Benson it's own metro?  

On that note technically when leaving North out of Atlanta I 75 should say Dalton.  Dalton became a metro in 2000 census.  Same applies to Cleveland TN.




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