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#1 spenser1058

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:23 AM

Since we officially have a name for this project, I thought it might be time to open its own thread. Here's hoping Dan Bellows can stay out of Jail and OC, Maitland and WP can avoid squabbling and get this moving. It's a great location that's been woefully in need of a makeover for a very long time.

'Ravaudage' development someday may change look of Winter Park-Maitland area

http://www.orlandose...0,4981931.story

 

#2 Jernigan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

The site is cleared and the Ale House is currently under construction. Huge project for this area.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:07 PM

Hard to get excited about an Ale House :ermm:

This project was signficantly scaled down.



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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

Is this near a Sun Rail station?



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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:14 PM

It is not within walking distance to a SunRail station.

 

As for the project itself, I am waiting to see what all goes in there. Anything that takes down another hideous billboard is better than nothing.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

It is not within walking distance to a SunRail station.

 

As for the project itself, I am waiting to see what all goes in there. Anything that takes down another hideous billboard is better than nothing.

thats a bummer



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

Ale House now looks like a Ale House, complete with signage.  Very large ring on the corner of Lee and 17-92 (a fountain?)

 

Took a photo while waiting at the light this morning.  Not a great photo but gives you a peek.    Nothing else realy happening at the moment.

 


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

Ale House now looks like a Ale House, complete with signage.  Very large ring on the corner of Lee and 17-92 (a fountain?)

 

Took a photo while waiting at the light this morning.  Not a great photo but gives you a peek.    Nothing else realy happening at the moment.

 

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What do you suppose the word Ravaudage means?



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:16 PM

The loose translation is "Mending."  I assume they are refering to the no man's land between Maitland and Winter Park where this is located. Unfortunately, this once ambitious project has turned into a glorified suburban strip mall.


Edited by prahaboheme, 15 February 2013 - 02:17 PM.


#10 Jernigan

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

Do we have a recent site plan?   The last time I heard Bellows talk about the project, it was something he viewed could "mend" as you said and even possibly warrant an additional SunRail station on the north side of it.   He's one of the more urbanist developers in the area so i'd also be surprised if he'd settle for something too suburban in nature.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

There was this plan from a long time ago:

 

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Found this one from May 2012, which has the Ale House:

 

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From this article

 

I hope they fill in the rest of those blocks.  It really is a great location, considering it's between Winter Park Village, the Enzian Theater, and Lake Lily. I could see a nice urban area forming all the way from downtown Winter Park to (the future) downtown Maitland.  I agree, a SunRail stop could definitely be warranted there.

 

 

 

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

I like the location and love anything in theory I can walk/run to from my place at Lake Lily but this development is doing nothing for me personally. That intersection is so busy and I would like to think they could do better than an Ale House and who has any clue what beyond that.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:57 PM

It's a weird area when you think about it. Very urban wasteland-esque, but sandwiched between some nice sections of town (Winter Park Village and Enzian/Lake Lilly area of Maitland).



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

I like that the clean lines and light color of the wall really bring out the industrial looking base of the billboard.  I also can't believe that sign isn't down.   



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

I like that the clean lines and light color of the wall really bring out the industrial looking base of the billboard.  I also can't believe that sign isn't down.   

 

It's not possible that they would leave the sign up, right? Tell me that is not possible.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

"It's not possible."



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

It's not possible that they would leave the sign up, right? Tell me that is not possible.

I'd hope not lol

 

Its more likely they already had a leasing deal for the billboard already signed and they probably will let the deal run through instead of paying early termination fees.



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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:16 PM

News today about the minor league baseball plan for Ravaudage...

 

http://www.orlandose...0,7842441.story



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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

I wonder how long this concept will last:  http://www.wesh.com/...ign=wesh+2+news

 

Millers Ale House charges a Ravaudage Personal User Fee


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:11 AM

From a business perspective it is really dumb. If they had just added a few cents to all the different items no one would ever have been the wiser to this. After all it is what everyone else does with their rent costs. Almost every retail place is paying their CAM fee which is between $5-10 a sqft in Orlando at most places. Some places even pay an additional percentage of sales on top of base rent and CAM. But never heard of any of these places pulling those charges out and having them directly paid like this on the bill. Not good press when you are opening.






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