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[HartfordTycoon]

This is actually a pretty good idea. I had heard of it in passing but didn't really know the specifics. Something like this is definitely needed to encourage pedestrians to explore Downtown while they are here.

Hartford Business Journal

Almost all the key cultural destinations within the quilt, including the Capitol, Bushnell Park, The Bushnell Center for the Performing Arts, the Wadsworth Atheneum, Hartford Stage Company, the Old State House, and the new Connecticut Science Center, are within a 15-minute walk of each other.

The pathways would make it enjoyable to walk from one cultural site to another with offerings such as public art, education and entertainment activities, vendors and small parks.

[HartfordTycoon]

This iQuilt plan is even more interesting now that I have a visual to go along with it. I like what I'm seeing here. This could be pretty big.



Hartford Courant

A dramatic vision for making downtown Hartford more walkable — including extending Bushnell Park to Main Street and creating gardens and restaurants in the space — will be shown in detail Tuesday for the first time.

The project, known as iQuilt, has been in the works for four years and its rough form has been public since 2009. Details such as a redesigned Gold Street and Travelers Plaza, with an ice skating rink outside the iconic office tower, would be part of a "continuous walkway" connecting the Connecticut River with the state Capitol.

"We hope that people will think of this when they think of downtown Hartford," Douglas Suisman, a Hartford native and principal of Suisman Urban Design, said Monday.

[Hartfordfan]

looks interesting. i was hoping they would uncover the park river but this is nice also.

[HartfordTycoon]

Hartfordfan, on 14 June 2011 - 08:07 AM, said:

looks interesting. i was hoping they would uncover the park river but this is nice also.

I just caught this. Looks like you may be getting your wish. This project is now officially awesome. Hopefully this really comes to fruition.

From the article:

Tuesday's meeting at 5:30 p.m. at the Hartford Public Library is for the public and will focus on the walkway, dubbed the "greenwalk," and restoration plans for Bushnell Park, including bringing back a river that once wound its way through the park.

[The Voice of Reason]

HartfordTycoon, on 14 June 2011 - 08:11 AM, said:

I just caught this. Looks like you may be getting your wish. This project is now officially awesome. Hopefully this really comes to fruition.

From the article:

Tuesday's meeting at 5:30 p.m. at the Hartford Public Library is for the public and will focus on the walkway, dubbed the "greenwalk," and restoration plans for Bushnell Park, including bringing back a river that once wound its way through the park.

yeah, reading the park river aspect is cool.

The best part about the whole thing is that this is a long term plan, and they are not looking to shoot the silver billet tomorrow, its something that will be worked on over a long period of time like the riverfront recapture, and will be completed piece by piece untill its is fully awesome.

Making the area near MDC, Travelers Plaza, The Wadsworth, Bushnell towers and gold street in general more pedestrian friendly will just be awesome!

The inclusion of an ice rink as well as an uncovered pak river are PRICELESS!!!

I will be attending this thing at 5:30

HartfordTycoon, on 14 June 2011 - 08:11 AM, said:

I just caught this. Looks like you may be getting your wish. This project is now officially awesome. Hopefully this really comes to fruition.

From the article:

Tuesday's meeting at 5:30 p.m. at the Hartford Public Library is for the public and will focus on the walkway, dubbed the "greenwalk," and restoration plans for Bushnell Park, including bringing back a river that once wound its way through the park.

hey HT, you should pull these into their own thread, this IQUILT thing is pretty big and will be around for quite some time.

also projects proposed by all of the cities leading cultural institutions with buy ins from the park, Travelers, the city and state are pretty much the kind of thing that happen, and do not fizzle.

[HartfordTycoon]

The Voice of Reason, on 14 June 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

yeah, reading the park river aspect is cool.

The best part about the whole thing is that this is a long term plan, and they are not looking to shoot the silver billet tomorrow, its something that will be worked on over a long period of time like the riverfront recapture, and will be completed piece by piece untill its is fully awesome.

Making the area near MDC, Travelers Plaza, The Wadsworth, Bushnell towers and gold street in general more pedestrian friendly will just be awesome!

The inclusion of an ice rink as well as an uncovered pak river are PRICELESS!!!

I will be attending this thing at 5:30





hey HT, you should pull these into their own thread, this IQUILT thing is pretty big and will be around for quite some time.

also projects proposed by all of the cities leading cultural institutions with buy ins from the park, Travelers, the city and state are pretty much the kind of thing that happen, and do not fizzle.

I agree. I was just going to move this stuff over to a new thread for this project.

[HartfordTycoon]

This thing is going to be much more major than I realized.

[The Voice of Reason]

HartfordTycoon, on 14 June 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

This thing is going to be much more major than I realized.

I hate to get anyones hopes up but Imagine Hartford with IQUILT, and uncovered Park river, the buries I-84  the new police building finished, and new apartments on the plaza, Hollander II and 101-111 Park, and AI tech center+ the new HH parking garage and 12 story office tower....

These are all realistic and dare I say likely to happen....

Seriously not a bad piece of potential there ehh?

[Theophrastus Bombastus]

Jeez, the frikkin' negative comments are unbelievable - there ought to be a thread started here to discuss ways of stemming the tide of Hartford's awful perception problem.

http://discussions.c...624-20110613/10

[HartfordTycoon]

Theophrastus Bombastus, on 14 June 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

Jeez, the frikkin' negative comments are unbelievable - there ought to be a thread started here to discuss ways of stemming the tide of Hartford's awful perception problem.

http://discussions.c...624-20110613/10

I think its a lost cause. All cities have the same problems to varying degrees but our suburban population has no tolerance for urban ills and are just generally unwilling to give Hartford a chance or even have any optimism for anything happening in the city. Personally I say screw em'. They are not going to be the ones to help turn this ship around for good. If things improve enough to change some these people's perception then obviously that is great but I don't lose sleep over the Hartford haters. The apartments downtown are full and they are building more. Obviously there are those who want to live in Hartford and see it do well. Those are the people we need not the closed minded ones who don't think the city has any positive attributes.

[Mike D]

After looking at the rendering, I believe iQuilt will be a really great project for downtown Hartford. It looks like a realistic project and I hope it gets underway soon. Uncovering the Park River and having some sort of river walk would be great for the city.

[The Voice of Reason]

I went to the meeting and it was PACKED.

having been to the Hub meetings, the One city plans, etc, I gotta say this one is totally different.

I really like the firms hired, they clearly care and are thoughtful.

and I want to clear something up, this is not one project
it is 8 projects quilted together.

its potentially dozens of projects really, but there are 8 specific independent elements, and well its not finalized, but its kind of amazing what they will be doing in the park.    there is a while lighting scheme.  absolutely amazing

more another time

[HartfordTycoon]

The Voice of Reason, on 14 June 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

I went to the meeting and it was PACKED.

having been to the Hub meetings, the One city plans, etc, I gotta say this one is totally different.

I really like the firms hired, they clearly care and are thoughtful.

and I want to clear something up, this is not one project
it is 8 projects quilted together.

its potentially dozens of projects really, but there are 8 specific independent elements, and well its not finalized, but its kind of amazing what they will be doing in the park.    there is a while lighting scheme.  absolutely amazing

more another time

Sounds extremely promising. Wish I could have made it.

[nor'easter]

HartfordTycoon, on 14 June 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

I think its a lost cause. All cities have the same problems to varying degrees but our suburban population has no tolerance for urban ills and are just generally unwilling to give Hartford a chance or even have any optimism for anything happening in the city. Personally I say screw em'. They are not going to be the ones to help turn this ship around for good. If things improve enough to change some these people's perception then obviously that is great but I don't lose sleep over the Hartford haters. The apartments downtown are full and they are building more. Obviously there are those who want to live in Hartford and see it do well. Those are the people we need not the closed minded ones who don't think the city has any positive attributes.

I completely agree with your thinking. they don't matter. people moving into the city will make the difference, not the suburban people. people that come to the city for its unique qualities will make the difference. I understand their position, as silly as it is. but they are there, not here. they really don't matter. save any comments about the city needing the suburbs. the city needs people moving into downtown. it won't be me moving in. but i work downtown, subscribe at theatreworks, HSO, attend the Atheneum monthly and have more than enough places to drink and dine. I love the city for what it is. If suburban people think perching on a barstool in west hartford is where it's at, then good for them because there is nothing else to do there, but go home.

Edited by nor'easter, 15 June 2011 - 07:18 AM.

[The Voice of Reason]

OK, so a little more now...

They gave out a map and it includes some interesting stuff.

Some of the interesting stuff is as follows.

1: Travelers needs to re do its plaza, the parking garage it covers is in bad shape and it needs to be town out completely and rebuilt in some way.  Since Travelers is doing this, they were open to working with IQuilt and the Bushnell park to make a better plaza and to help improve the area.   THIS IS PRIVATE MONEY.

So the result will be that one of Hartfords corporate citizens will help to create "hartfords living room"   The intention is to have a book store cafe type thing at the wadsworth, and seating all over the place.  it is a space that could also be potentially used as winter skating and such.  Think less walls, less road, and more umbrellas coffee and books.

2: The intention is to narrow Jewell Street as it is built for rush hour maximum loads, and most of the time sits empty.  if the road were right sized from 3 lanes each way down to 1 each way, the park can be widened, and the sidewalk can be expanded allowing people to be more in the park than in the street while walking on the sidewalks around the park.   it looks amazing, honestly.  you do not think about it till you are there, but you feel very exposed on these sidewalks now because they go from road to sidewalk, no grass strip, no trees, just paving.  we will see the results if it happens, as DOT is involved, but so is a traffic engineer who is making these suggestions, so kinda cool.

3 Bridges!!!
they would be rebilding all of the original bridges we lost, and unburying trinity bridge , 1 bridge would be slightly moved, and a few additional bridges added, but ultimately the parks iconic stone bridges will be back.  

4 The pump house will now be waterfront and would have its patio come to the water so not only would this be in a park, but even better have waters edge seating. and the would be partly possible because of number 5

5: pulaski circle is being adjusted or removed.  when this was put in back 50 years ago the park lost a lot of land to the circle, the roads, and really this is an example of the car pushing out the human.   the plan is fluid, but the thought now is to remove the circle and create an intersection reclaiming the parkland, and cleaning up a terrible wasteland .  

6 on gold street they want to put some kind of space for a jazz club near the Hubline location reflecting on our heritage, and there would be maybe greenhouses there and a reflecting pool etc..
up by the state office building, that huge parking lot weould be re done (has allready been mandated by the state and funded)  but will be done as a permiable green space with potential uses as an event space(performances, farmers markets, festivals etc...

[MadVlad]

I agree with everything 1000% except..... the State parking lot nonsense.  That area along Capitol Ave was supposed to be brownstones... or row houses... or... something.  Adding more park there is kinda silly.  I love the idea, really I do, but we need more RESIDENTIAL downtown!  Yes, I know, we are getting some, but Capitol Ave is a perfect place to create a nice neighborhood.  Go look at Paris, full of 6 story apartment buildings with nice iron-wrought balconies, etc.  Now, imagine that along Capitol Ave and the little side streets.  That's what's needed, not a farmer's market...

[The Voice of Reason]

MadVlad, on 15 June 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

I agree with everything 1000% except..... the State parking lot nonsense.  That area along Capitol Ave was supposed to be brownstones... or row houses... or... something.  Adding more park there is kinda silly.  I love the idea, really I do, but we need more RESIDENTIAL downtown!  Yes, I know, we are getting some, but Capitol Ave is a perfect place to create a nice neighborhood.  Go look at Paris, full of 6 story apartment buildings with nice iron-wrought balconies, etc.  Now, imagine that along Capitol Ave and the little side streets.  That's what's needed, not a farmer's market...

Dont jump!!!

the state parking lot is being repaved regardless, and there is a FEDERAL mandate requiring lots like this to be "green" and permiable and reclain wastewater from cars, so the whole thing will not be a park, but a green parking not, and the city will start to use it for events on weekends and such when people are not parking on it.... and if townhomes ever come along... they still happen.

the plan also had all the other lots edging the main one envisioned as being developed, so they very much see the area needing residential, but this I quilt is about pedestrians... it just includes this lot because of the federal mandate(and funding) so its happening with or without iquilt, so they decided to include it as the bushnell uses the lot

so again, not a park, just a green parking lot

[MadVlad]

Lol, green surface parking is still surface parking, which I find to be the single biggest waste of space in the universe.  However, I concede the point, I misunderstood it's use, and since it's happening anyways, it might as well happen this way.

[The Voice of Reason]

hey and look at it this way, everything released yesterday was completely conceptual,  its not like anything is final designs they in their own words take artistic liscence and try and make things liike as detailed as possible as a proof of concept, so we do not have to imagine it.   while in reality, there may be no reflecting pool, no jazz club no greenhouses etc...

the designers were very clear about that.

[MichaelQReilly]

The Voice of Reason, on 15 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

OK, so a little more now...

They gave out a map and it includes some interesting stuff.

Some of the interesting stuff is as follows.

1: Travelers needs to re do its plaza, the parking garage it covers is in bad shape and it needs to be town out completely and rebuilt in some way.  Since Travelers is doing this, they were open to working with IQuilt and the Bushnell park to make a better plaza and to help improve the area.   THIS IS PRIVATE MONEY.

So the result will be that one of Hartfords corporate citizens will help to create "hartfords living room"   The intention is to have a book store cafe type thing at the wadsworth, and seating all over the place.  it is a space that could also be potentially used as winter skating and such.  Think less walls, less road, and more umbrellas coffee and books.

Done and done. This plan makes a ton of sense and can be done at minimal cost to the public. Things like this are exactly what needs to happen more in the city. It's the kind of relatively small change that has the potential to make a huge difference.

Now if only Phoenix, the owner of the stilts building, the Clarion owners, and a bunch others can be convinced to do similar remodeling to make their properties more city friendly.

The Voice of Reason, on 15 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

2: The intention is to narrow Jewell Street as it is built for rush hour maximum loads, and most of the time sits empty.  if the road were right sized from 3 lanes each way down to 1 each way, the park can be widened, and the sidewalk can be expanded allowing people to be more in the park than in the street while walking on the sidewalks around the park.   it looks amazing, honestly.  you do not think about it till you are there, but you feel very exposed on these sidewalks now because they go from road to sidewalk, no grass strip, no trees, just paving.  we will see the results if it happens, as DOT is involved, but so is a traffic engineer who is making these suggestions, so kinda cool.

Great. From my understanding, the actual location of the Park River is under what is now Jewell Street due to its widening. So this would be a prerequisite to uncovering the river. That said, never underestimate the DOT's ability to screw this up somehow.

The Voice of Reason, on 15 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

4 The pump house will now be waterfront and would have its patio come to the water so not only would this be in a park, but even better have waters edge seating. and the would be partly possible because of number 5

Do we know if there is any idea where the city can get funding for daylighting the river?

The Voice of Reason, on 15 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

5: pulaski circle is being adjusted or removed.  when this was put in back 50 years ago the park lost a lot of land to the circle, the roads, and really this is an example of the car pushing out the human.   the plan is fluid, but the thought now is to remove the circle and create an intersection reclaiming the parkland, and cleaning up a terrible wasteland .  

I always thought that this would be a superb place to put another fountain. Maybe this would help get some momentum going to build on that hardly used parking lot here.

The Voice of Reason, on 15 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

6 on gold street they want to put some kind of space for a jazz club near the Hubline location reflecting on our heritage, and there would be maybe greenhouses there and a reflecting pool etc..
up by the state office building, that huge parking lot weould be re done (has allready been mandated by the state and funded)  but will be done as a permiable green space with potential uses as an event space(performances, farmers markets, festivals etc...

These are the weakest parts of the plan, IMHO. It's like they ran out of truly visionary ideas and fell back on urbanite warhorses. A farmer's market! A jazz club! I have no objection to these things, in fact, I'm a fan of both (although I get bored of jazz pretty quickly). I just don't think that these locations are very good fits for these things. These areas need dense development as they are crucial to tying central downtown to south downtown.