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[dbull75]

I noticed that we keep having these annual Panthers topics, so thought it would be a good idea to just wrap it up all under one. Anyways, interesting piece of info from Forbes. The Carolina Panthers are 17th most valuable sports franchise in the world (yes, the world). They are valued at $1.04 billion. If Cam Newton can do his thing here, it will only go up. Not too shabby for little ole Charlotte, NC huh? There are a few other sports franchises sprinkled in, but the NFL teams make up the vast majority of them.

[ct36]

dbull75, on 13 July 2011 - 08:07 PM, said:

I noticed that we keep having these annual Panthers topics, so thought it would be a good idea to just wrap it up all under one. Anyways, interesting piece of info from Forbes. The Carolina Panthers are 17th most valuable sports franchise in the world (yes, the world). They are valued at $1.04 billion. If Cam Newton can do his thing here, it will only go up. Not too shabby for little ole Charlotte, NC huh? There are a few other sports franchises sprinkled in, but the NFL teams make up the vast majority of them.

I don't know why. I mean I love Charlotte, but the Panthers suck. Like bad. This is coming from someone who couldn't care much less about football, either. My family & I went to see them practice in Spartanburg last summer and they just stood around and didn't do much. Probably one of most boring hours of 2010. Possibly. I don't think they did good last season, but it is coming from me, so I don't know. I don't mean to be bitter or anything, but I don't really know half of what I'm talking about, so if I'm wrong, then sorry. It is surprising that it is the 17th most valuable still, but I couldn't think it would be any lower than 30th.

[dbull75]

^Well, I doubt anyone would disagree with you for last year. They were terrible. Though, they have a fresh look now with a new coaching staff and some player additions that should help. It will take a year or two, but hopefully this franchise is on the upswing. They set the bar pretty low after last year.

[rworkman09]

The Panthers are worth so much as a franchise because the team owns the stadium and the stadium is on very valuable property.

[caterpillar2]

ct36, on 13 July 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

I don't know why. I mean I love Charlotte, but the Panthers suck. Like bad. This is coming from someone who couldn't care much less about football, either. My family & I went to see them practice in Spartanburg last summer and they just stood around and didn't do much. Probably one of most boring hours of 2010. Possibly. I don't think they did good last season, but it is coming from me, so I don't know. I don't mean to be bitter or anything, but I don't really know half of what I'm talking about, so if I'm wrong, then sorry. It is surprising that it is the 17th most valuable still, but I couldn't think it would be any lower than 30th.

The Panthers have had two bad years. They are a young team and have already made it to the Super Bowl. The other years, they were a descent. Two bad years don't make them "suck". It means they have had bad luck for two years.

[AuLukey]

caterpillar2, on 14 July 2011 - 10:27 AM, said:

The Panthers have had two bad years. They are a young team and have already made it to the Super Bowl. The other years, they were a descent. Two bad years don't make them "suck". It means they have had bad luck for two years.

And 3 NFC Championship appearances!  The Panthers aren't consistently good, but they have an overall winning record.  Last year was particularly bad because John Fox already knew he was on the way out and didn't really care, oh yea, and we drafted a POS quarterback.  I'm surprised he didn't just resign at the start of the season.

Being the 17th (and not very far behind 12-16th) most valuable franchise in the world is pretty exciting.  I figured with all the major soccer teams in Europe and baseball teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that we'd be MUCH further down the list.  Guess my view of sports economics was way off...

[dbull75]

The Panthers have announced they hired an architect to study and create a master plan for a major renovation of Bank of America Stadium. It will take a year to complete the study and master plan. Team officials haven't released any details, but given the fact it will be a sizable renovation there will be some big changes. My guess is that you'll see such things as major scoreboard renovations (can we get a bigger one like everyone else?), better fan experiences and stadium configuration changes. The one thing they did mention is that the renovation will be PRIVATELY funded. So we don't have to listen to gripes about taxes being raised, though the NIMBYs will just complain about something else I'm sure. Given the success of Cam Newton early on, it might be wise to get this done now. The Panthers (should) only get better after this season.

[ah59396]

I honestly believe that Jerry Richardson wants to host a superbowl bad.  I don't buy the "lack of hotel room" claim for Charlotte and its surrounding area, what I do think is this up-fit will have a lot to do with securing the game.  If they can have an outdoor game in New York, they can certainly hold one in Charlotte (speaking in terms of weather).  Plus the "Big Cat" carries a lot of weight among the owners.  And remember who pays Roger Goodells salary.

[49er]

I think we are still years away from hosting but maybe after upgrades to the stadium the NFL would reconsider. The host city is always a combination of the climate, the tourist factor of the city and the stadium itself. The superdome may not be that great, but its in NO and its indoors. We would suffer from being a so-so place to visit from a tourist perspective topped by a mediocre stadium in a potentially cold weather climate. New York has a new stadium and well, its New York! That's just my 2 cents. Fo

[dbull75]

^Yea, but have you ever traveled from NYC to the Meadowlands for a game? It's a complete clusterf***. I can't imagine what it will be like on Super Sunday in a few years. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

I agree that the hotel issue should be a non-factor in a few years, especially if uptown gets another one or two built. I think the Super Bowl is certainly doable, but based on a few things:

1) How the city handles the DNC in 2012. If it ends up being a disaster, it hurts the city's chances of landing the Super Bowl. If it's a success or non-factor, then it helps.
2) The scope of the renovation to BofA Stadium. The Super Bowl likes glitz in their stadiums, especially for non-traditional host cities (Indy, Detroit, etc). I think it's safe to say there won't be a roof added.
3) How the Super Bowl fares at the Meadowlands. While Charlotte and the NY metro area are completely opposite in terms of experiences, the whole outdoor venue in a cold weather environment changes the dynamics of the game. While Charlotte isn't the northeast for weather, it still gets chilly here in early February.

[rworkman09]

dbull75, on 02 November 2011 - 11:54 AM, said:

The one thing they did mention is that the renovation will be PRIVATELY funded. So we don't have to listen to gripes about taxes being raised, though the NIMBYs will just complain about something else I'm sure.

They'll complain about rising ticket prices paying for the cost of the upgrades I'm sure.

Edited by rworkman09, 04 November 2011 - 07:46 AM.