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[VistaLakes01]

Viper, on Jun 28 2005, 11:18 PM, said:

By the next census, Orange and Pinellas will also have passed 1,000,000 with Duval passing it around 2012-2013.

Here is your helpful census employee.  These are the top 10 Florida county pops as of 2006:
1 Hillsborough: 1,201,000
2 Palm Beach County 1,307,414
3 Orange: 1,098,978
4 Duval County 925,002
5  Pinellas:   924,995  (actually a loss of popuation, the county is built out and deaths have been greater than births)
6  Polk County 562,222
7  Lee County  548,096
8  Brevard County 541,154
9  Volusia  538,997
10 Seminole 428,319
*Special note, Polk county is expected to keep having explosive growth as compared to the fast growing coastal counties and their actually is an argument as to whether Polk should be added to Greater Orlando or Greater Tampa.  The majority of growth in Polk at this time is Orlando related.  The older more populous areas of Polk, (Lakeland) has a greater number of commuters in to Tampa although Orlando growth is also spilling in to Lakeland.  As a rule in Florida, counties have not been divided in to two different metro areas. So far the plan is to leave Lakeland as its own metro until 2020 (est pop of Polk co. 2020: 825,000). Then by 2020 census Orlampa will be ready to go as one population center, tentatively named: Tampa-Orlando-St. Petersburg CSA (including Volusia, Flagler,Sumter, and Marion counties.)

[poonther]

I'm confused:  What happen to Miami-Dade and Broward in your rankings?

On edit:  Also are those 2006 rankings?  If so, the Duval pop. to me looks a little high, I know they are really growing, but by that much?  The Census website shows Duval's 7.1.06 pop as 837,964.  Just curious as to why the difference.

Edited by poonther, 08 June 2007 - 12:47 PM.

[JRS1]

poonther, on Jun 8 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

I'm confused:  What happen to Miami-Dade and Broward in your rankings?

On edit:  Also are those 2006 rankings?  If so, the Duval pop. to me looks a little high, I know they are really growing, but by that much?  The Census website shows Duval's 7.1.06 pop as 837,964.  Just curious as to why the difference.

maybe Miami-Dade and Broward seceded from Florida.

I think Pinnelas and Seminole are probably the most dense;  didn't realize how much Seminole had grown in the last decade.

[JRS1]

metrowester, on Jun 8 2007, 01:51 PM, said:

Then by 2020 census Orlampa will be ready to go as one population center, tentatively named: Tampa-Orlando-St. Petersburg CSA (including Volusia, Flagler,Sumter, and Marion counties.)

is this a for real?  i.e., they are already slating Tamlandoburg for 2020?  I thought it just the collective ramblings of a bunch of forumers; didn't realize the census bureau is planning to do this.  that's going to be one big extended metro.  Well, in that case, when CFRAIL goes out to Poinciana, they might as well plan on extending it into Haines City and farther into Polk...

[VistaLakes01]

JRS1, on Jun 25 2007, 01:31 PM, said:

is this a for real?  i.e., they are already slating Tamlandoburg for 2020?  I thought it just the collective ramblings of a bunch of forumers; didn't realize the census bureau is planning to do this.  that's going to be one big extended metro.  Well, in that case, when CFRAIL goes out to Poinciana, they might as well plan on extending it into Haines City and farther into Polk...

Don't know why I left out South Florida, guess was mainly talking about this regions populations.  As for your question about the one big extended metro, there are so many regions of the country that are extending and connecting (like the megopolis in the NE) there is talk of ranking certain regions in different categories. Say, like besides the Orlando/Daytona CSA ranking, there will may be a ranking of large extended urban areas: For example only (not factual):
Top 10 US Mega-Urban Areas
1. Washington/Philadelphia/New York/ Boston (or the area could have a specific name like NE megaplex)
2. Los Angeles/Long Beach/Riverside/San Bernadino/Oceanside/San Diego(Southland California)

etc...
It only makes sense as we go in to the future and the US and the World's population is exploding that these different population rankings be used for whatever purpose.  The "I-4 Corridor" is definetely an area of huge urban sprawl and huge population growth that is being looked at.  What's amazing also is now the Orlando and Jacksonville metro's are bumping in to each other.

[bulldogger]

metrowester, on Jun 29 2007, 12:16 AM, said:

Don't know why I left out South Florida, guess was mainly talking about this regions populations.  As for your question about the one big extended metro, there are so many regions of the country that are extending and connecting (like the megopolis in the NE) there is talk of ranking certain regions in different categories. Say, like besides the Orlando/Daytona CSA ranking, there will may be a ranking of large extended urban areas: For example only (not factual):
Top 10 US Mega-Urban Areas
1. Washington/Philadelphia/New York/ Boston (or the area could have a specific name like NE megaplex)
2. Los Angeles/Long Beach/Riverside/San Bernadino/Oceanside/San Diego(Southland California)

etc...
It only makes sense as we go in to the future and the US and the World's population is exploding that these different population rankings be used for whatever purpose.  The "I-4 Corridor" is definetely an area of huge urban sprawl and huge population growth that is being looked at.  What's amazing also is now the Orlando and Jacksonville metro's are bumping in to each other.

Yeah, I think a hip-hop group already named this SE corridor...  95 SOUTH!!!!

[depechecureguyorl]

metrowester, on Jun 8 2007, 11:51 AM, said:

Then by 2020 census Orlampa will be ready to go as one population center, tentatively named: Tampa-Orlando-St. Petersburg CSA (including Volusia, Flagler,Sumter, and Marion counties.)

I'm sure that will make TAMPA'S day; when it finally can include Orlando in all it's statistics. They already tried with the Olympics bid a few years ago, and now the Devil Rays are trying to lure Orlando residents, cuz It's own population base won't goto a game...anyways...it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever associate Tampa with Orlando. Ya'll Yankee snowbirds just don't get it...

[neoanderz]

metrowester, on Jun 8 2007, 01:51 PM, said:

Here is your helpful census employee.  These are the top 10 Florida county pops as of 2006:
1 Hillsborough: 1,201,000
2 Palm Beach County 1,307,414
3 Orange: 1,098,978
4 Duval County 925,002
5  Pinellas:   924,995  (actually a loss of popuation, the county is built out and deaths have been greater than births)
6  Polk County 562,222
7  Lee County  548,096
8  Brevard County 541,154
9  Volusia  538,997
10 Seminole 428,319
*Special note, Polk county is expected to keep having explosive growth as compared to the fast growing coastal counties and their actually is an argument as to whether Polk should be added to Greater Orlando or Greater Tampa.  The majority of growth in Polk at this time is Orlando related.  The older more populous areas of Polk, (Lakeland) has a greater number of commuters in to Tampa although Orlando growth is also spilling in to Lakeland.  As a rule in Florida, counties have not been divided in to two different metro areas. So far the plan is to leave Lakeland as its own metro until 2020 (est pop of Polk co. 2020: 825,000). Then by 2020 census Orlampa will be ready to go as one population center, tentatively named: Tampa-Orlando-St. Petersburg CSA (including Volusia, Flagler,Sumter, and Marion counties.)

Where did you get these?  They can't be correct.  Duval couldn't have grown that quick.  I also didn't expect Volusia to catch Brevard by 2010 much less last year.  Is this insider info?  On the previous page, I posted the numbers I found on the census web page and they are quite different.

[tombarnes]

I'm confused by this list.  Broward County has over 1.7m according to The Census Bureau.

The listing in Wikipedia...
  

While that seems higher than I had thought, the list above doesn't make sense to me either.

[poonther]

poonther, on Jun 8 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

I'm confused: What happen to Miami-Dade and Broward in your rankings?

On edit: Also are those 2006 rankings? If so, the Duval pop. to me looks a little high, I know they are really growing, but by that much? The Census website shows Duval's 7.1.06 pop as 837,964. Just curious as to why the difference.

Um, I've been saying that this information is incorrect since the day it was posted.  In metrowester's defense, I think he was trying to post the top ten largest counties in Central FL, b/c it could not be FL's top ten since Number 1 (Miami-Dade) and Number 2 (Broward) were left off the list.  However a Central FL list should not include Duval (NE FL), Palm Beach (South FL) or Lee (SW FL) counties.

Also many of the population figures seem suspect.  This list to me reads more like a wish-list than actual fact.

[Julez]

Well he in fact said those were Floridas ten largest counties. But sure is a wierd list.

[neoanderz]

Here are the official census numbers as I posted on the first page:

2006 18,089,888
1. 2,402,208 Miami-Dade County
2. 1,787,636 Broward County
3. 1,274,013 Palm Beach County
4. 1,157,738 Hillsborough County
5. 1,043,500 Orange County
6. 924,413 Pinellas County
7. 837,964 Duval County
8. 571,344 Lee County
9. 561,606 Polk County
10. 534,359 Brevard County

No need to update it until the 2007 census figures come out.

[dgreco]

I just got hte numbers from the fastest growing counties in fl.  I thought it would add to the discussion.  I think the interesting ones are the ones that are just outside of the top 10 counties in FL, but yet are in the top 100 growth rates so we could see some new counties entering the top ten.

FL-Florida Rank
NT-National Rank

FL  NT COUNTY               2006       2000

01  01 Flagler County       83,084     49,835
02  17 Osceola County      244,045    172,493
03  23 Lake County         290,435    210,527
04  25 St. Johns County    169,224    123,148
05  44 St. Lucie County    252,724    192,695
06  50 Pasco County        450,171    344,768
07  59 Lee County          571,344    440,888
08  62 Wakulla County       29,542     22,863
09  66 Sumter County        68,768     53,345
10  67 Walton County        52,270     40,602

11  77 Clay County         178,899    140,184
12  83 Hernando County     165,409    130,802
13  97 Collier County      314,649    251,377

[USF_Rockstar]

Pinellas county is almost completely built out with the exception of some of the extreme nothern areas of the county. In 2000 according to the census it had 3,292 people per square mile. The next closest county was Broward coming in at 1346.5 then Seminole at 1184.9. If the county wants to grow it has got to grow up which is starting to happen but at a snail's pace. There has actually been talk of splitting the county in two but it has more to do with schools than anything.

Source:
http://factfinder.ce...mp;-format=ST-2