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[dubone]

Won't greyhound still be part of the multimodal complex?

I know that the seediness of that block will be improved drastically when construction begins in 3 years, but in the mean time, i still think it would hard to target market to women while the existing stuff is still there.  Also, even in its eventual state, transit stations tend to feel less safe at night than other areas, so it still would be hard to imagine building such a large project tailored to women right across the street.  

I don't feel strongly about it, though, as i can see some ways it could work... just a gut feeling that it isn't a good location.   (and was a good setup for a joke, so i took it ).

[skysdalimit]

Sweet 50 stories!!  When do u think this story may break the news?

[moonshield]

Fifty Stories!?!?! When do we break ground?

[cooperdawg]

No idea, this was the first I heard of it in a morning meeting today.  I don't know much else about it, but when I do, I'll be sure to pass it along here.

[skysdalimit]

I love getting inside information.  ahhhhh

[atlrvr]

ok.....I asked around, and this is what I heard......someone is assembling the block bound by 5th, 6th, Graham, and Pine for a large scale residential project.....they didn't know about scale of that proposal, but didn't seem surprised when I mentioned 50 stories in 4th ward......when I questioned them about that block being in the historic district, they didn't think it was, though the HDC clearly shows that it is........it is possible that the HDC and FoFW wouldn't protest this block, as long as the Fire Museum was left as is (since the rest of the block is surface parking and a warehouse in horrible condition)

Anyway......whether or not this is the same project, it looks like something will be happening on this block relatively soon which is good.....since it one of the few blocks that seriously damages the urban fabric.

[rockhilljames]

Yeah, that block has needed something for some time now...

but for God's sake leave the Fire Museum alone. That building rocks the house.

[cooperdawg]

I always thought that block would have been a good fit for a multi-story indoor retail (or at least interior courtyard retail) with residential on top of it due to it's location between fourth ward/5th and Poplar and the rest of town, and Gateway/Johnson and Wales.  Would make a great meeting place between the two Wards.

[skysdalimit]

Does anyone have a pic of that block with the firehouse?

[atlrvr]

Well.....there are surveying stakes all around the block, and the surveyors are out there today........could this be the block????

[norm21499]

somone take a picture! ya'll are killin me!

[dubone]

for some reason, i originally thought that the student apartments that later because Cityview Towers was going on that block... i guess because they kept saying "across the street from Harris Teeter".  

I would be extremely surprised if a 50 story building went on that block.  It would look so lonely, being surrounded by such low rise buildings. i still doubt the neighborhood would be okay with it, even if they don't have legal authority.  I mean, 5th and poplar saved and integrated the st peters building, and gave the neighborhood a grocery store... but that didn't stop them from forcing a lower roof line on the north side of the block.  

in the scenario where they do, infact, break all expectations and build a highrise on that block, do you think that will start development pressure to rebuild old 80s multi-tenant places along graham like springfield?

[rockhilljames]

You know, I don't think it would be out of place. It's not uncommon for downtowns to have highrises that aren't surrounded by other highrises. In my opinion, the Arlington looks just fine in South End (well...you know what I'm saying....) This spot is less than four blocks away from other towers, it won't look out of place at all.

I also don't see how the neighborhood could complain, it's not that far from where Trademark is going. Plus..you live in downtown, you might see a high-rise or two....

Edited by rockhilljames, 09 March 2005 - 12:22 PM.

[atlrvr]

I checked tax records......BofA and Lincoln Harris bought one of the parcels on this block last fall (so I would suspect they are involved in whatever is going on here)  The rest of the block is owned by Preferred Parking (of course) and a family.......certainly these parcels could be under contract.....

It might look a bit out of place, but maybe not in a bad way.....I think the back bay of boston looks really cool because of how a few skyscrapers jut out of mid rises.

I think there is already development pressure on the low-rise multi-family in 4th Ward......however, the apartments would certainly be the easiest to redevelop.  Buying up all the condos will be difficult to do in a cost effective manner.

[Mobuchu]

I passed by this block today and didn't realize how much of an incline its on. (for uptown anyway)

I think whatever goes here, if its a highrise, is gonna look shorter then it really is...

[graydog]

Rumors about a new condo tower in 4th Ward were confirmed by Doug Smith in today's Charlotte Observer. It's called The Vue and it'll be located at 5th and Pine between Cityview Tower and Fifth & Poplar apartments. Another surface parking lot bites the dust!

Here's the article:
http://www.charlotte...th/11096274.htm

Besides the announcement, there are various comments from real estate experts and the developers about Charlotte's Uptown residential growth that are very interesting.

Developers are Churchill Development Group, Orlando, and Westminster Partners, Chicago.

There's a web site, but nothing is posted there yet.
http://www.vuecharlotte.com/

[moonshield]

holy crap there are so many buildings going up, this one looks awesome in itself.

[cooperdawg]

Wow, that is an impressive structure.  Good to hear the neighboring community is on board with it already.

[Neo]

[cooperdawg]

I know there is a lot of new development going on, but when you look at that locational map of that project, you really get a sense of how much room is left for development in the center city.