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#1 Cotuit

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 08:52 AM

You may have seen our newest member, Herb Weiss posting in the Pawtucket Renaissance thread. Herb is the Economic & Cultural Affairs Officer for the City of Pawtucket and he has graciously offered to answer questions about developments in Pawtucket, specifically about the thriving arts community in the city.

Herb posted this exhaustive list of past, present, and planned developments in the city in the other thread:

Herbs, on Mar 18 2005, 04:05 PM, said:

Here's an article about redevelopment of Pawtucket, using the arts -- Herb Weiss, Economic and Cultural Affairs Officer.

Pawtucket’s Arts & Entertainment Initiative: An Economic Engine Bringing New Life, Vitality to the City

In 1793, Samuel Slater constructed and operated the first cotton-spinning machine in America at the Slater Mill site in Pawtucket, igniting America’s Industrial Revolution. The City of Pawtucket was the nation’s first industrial site and today has one of the largest manufacturing bases in Rhode Island.

More than 70 mill properties and complexes, housing manufacturing firms, offices, life/work lofts and artist studios are located with the City. Pawtucket’s growing artist community was accelerated in 1999 when the City’s Arts & Entertainment District came into being.

Pawtucket’s art policy initiative to attract artists to unused and underutilized mill spaces is gradually transforming these properties.  Mayor James E. Doyle has received recognition for these efforts by the U.S. Conference of Mayors and most recently by the Providence-based Arts & Business Council of Rhode Island. Moreover, newspaper articles have appeared across the nation noting Pawtucket’s efforts to save its old mill properties.

While the City’s arts policy initiative was economically driven, it had a preservation goal of saving used and underutilized historic buildings throughout the City’s struggling downtown.

In just the last few years, preservation of Pawtucket’s mills and historic commercial properties, in the City’s Arts & Entertainment District that encompasses 60 streets and 23 mill sites, has also occurred in dozens of properties. Many of these properties were once vacant, but now are being renovated by artists and creative sector companies.

This is a sampling of Pawtucket’s historic properties preserved and now seeing new uses as a result of the City’s ongoing arts policy initiative.

Internationally-recognized restaurant designer Morris Nathanson and his wife, Phyllis, have breathed new life into the former Rhode Island Cardboard Company by transforming the 25,000 sf of space into 13 live/work spaces and studios in 1986. Blackstone Studios, at 163 Exchange Street, was the first legal live/work loft sites in the City. Over the years, artists and creative sector companies have enjoyed their spaces because of high ceilings, hardwood floors, open spaces and large windows.

As a result of the City’s six year arts initiative, the Nathansons are moving ahead to convert the remaining 25,000 sf adjoining mill into an additional 12 studios.

Next to the Nathanson’s mill, new tenants will move into Riverfront Lofts, a new live/work loft conversion at the former Lebanon Mill, at 10 Exchange Court. The $15 million 110,000 sf mill rehabilitation project will create 59 live/work style condos (50 are under contract)..  This is one of the few remaining mill buildings sited on the Blackstone River. Funding for this project is provided by BankRI with participation from JP Morgan-Chase Manhattan Bank and Bank of Newport.

Across the street, The Sandra Feinstein Gamm Theatre has moved into the vacant annex of the Pawtucket Armory. The Pawtucket Armory Association, overseeing the rehabilitation of the historic armory will ultimately turn the site into 40,000 sf regional performing arts center. Next September, the new state-wide arts high school will open, with offices and class rooms in the front portion of Gothic-looking armory building that has been formerly the home of the Rhode Island National Guard.

Next to the Pawtucket Armory, the John W. Little Company became the home of Mirror Image, a textile printing company. Owner Rick Roth brought 25 jobs to this 26,000 sf unused mill.  Originally labels and tags were printed in this mill. Now Mr. Roth’s company silkscreen prints more than one million t-shirts annually, including the recent official National Football League’s Patriot Super Bowl shirts and Red Sox shirts in stores everywhere.

Michael Cronin, of Classic Display, purchased the R.B. Gage Company mill, at 80 Fountain Street, to operate his company which fabricates displays and signage.  Twelve artists are operating studios in 22,000 sf out of the 100,000 sf mill, that originally was used to manufacture cotton yarn.

Meanwhile, the Providence-based developer, Seven Stone Building Group, will shortly purchase the former Parkin Yarn mill from the limited partnership that owns it. The developers plan to create 25 live/work condos in the 39,000 square foot five-story flat roofed mill brick building, located at 32 Commerce Street (20 condos are now under contract). The historic mill property has been vacant for over 10 years after being the home of a host of manufacturers.

As part of the Parkin Yarn project, the City is providing $300,000 in federal HOME funds to create six affordable units and undertaking parking and roadway improvements for this section of downtown. Along with this revitalization effort, the Pawtucket Redevelopment Agency (PRA) has purchased the former Old Colony Bank Building. PRA will shortly offer the property for purchase and rehabilitation. This 16,152 sf property has also been vacant for ten years.

Since the beginning of Pawtucket’s arts initiative a number of vacant commercial properties have been transformed into live/work lofts and studios.

Richard Kazarian, an antique dealer and designer, purchased the former U-Pick Shoe Store at 9 Montgomery and converted the 2,190 sf space to a home/studio.  This historic property formerly housed the Pawtucket Progressive Spiritualist Lyccum.  The property had been vacant for years.

Meanwhile, Mr. Kazarian is also purchasing the underutilized Elks Club, on 27 Exchange Street, to bring it back to its former luster. This commercial property was specifically designed to be an Elks Club. Built in a Mediterranean style, the 20,000 sf well-recognized Pawtucket landmark, located in the City’s Time Square, plans to turn the historic building into artist studios, restaurants, and offer artistic venues.

Finally, Mr. Keith Sousa has purchased the 6,500 Gorman Furniture Company building at 400 Main Street.  The oldest part of this structure, dating back to the 1830s, sits next to one of the oldest City fire stations. This property has been vacant for several years before being purchased to be rehabbed into a recording studio, live-work lofts and studios.

Architect Joe Haskett and Kirsten Murphy, a graphic artist, recently brought new life to the 3,537 former Schaffer’s Furniture Company building at 163 Broad Street. Built in 1926, the couple purchased the property and created a live/work loft and studios.

Artist Scott Roop has also purchased the long-vacant former Hospital Trust Building with a later addition building built in 1946 at 216 Main Street, turning over 8,000 sf commercial bank building into artist studios.

Two Ton, Inc., an architectural firm formerly based in San Francisco, CA, also came to Pawtucket because of the City’s arts initiatives.  The company recently purchased the 3,500 sf former motorcycle repair shop at 49/51 Montgomery Street, across the Pawtucket Post Office.

Artists Gretchen Dow Simpson, Mimo Riley and Ray Warner, an architect, have jointly  purchased 75-81 Montgomery Street a 6,000 sf building that formerly housed a vending company, into artist studios and an architectural office.

Zaev Nienberg and Naomi Subsanik have recently purchased the historic 1892 Tool Building on 228 Main Street. The five story, 22,700 sf historic building will be turned into live-work lofts, artist studios and galleries.

Right next door, a Washington, DC-based antiques dealer will close on Friday to purchase the 6,500 square foot domed building at 238 Main St., the former Morse Shoe store. David Bell will renovate the property for an antique shop and artist gallery.

In addition, the Pawtucket Boys & Girls Club, created a 7,000 sf arts center in the former Fleet Bank building at 210 Main Street. Among its uses is an educational teaching center. This Pawtucket landmark now serves as the permanent performance space for Stone Soup Coffee House.

Finally, at 151 Front Street, a Boston-based graphic designer and website designer have signed a purchase and sale agreement to purchase a 2,200 square foot building, for use as live-work space and their offices.

Even outside the boundaries of Pawtucket’s 307 acre Arts & Entertainment District, the largest in the state, the City is seeking the arts initiative bring in developers to preserve old mill buildings, transforming them into live/work lofts and studios.

Central Industry Properties, LLC, a Warren-based developer, has recently purchased the 300.000 sf former American Insulated Wire complex, at 36 Freeman Street. The developers will create mixed uses for this mill. Targeting Pawtucket’s growing arts community, the first phase of this project, now called the Phillips Wire Company Lofts, will develop 28 live/work lofts and 48 studios, totaling 200,000 sf. 

A developer by the name of 545 P. Associates has reused the 145,000 sf former Chernack Manufacturing Company mill at 545 Pawtucket Avenue, and the 95,000 sf American Textile Company Mill, at 250 Esten Avenue, into studios for more than 100 artists.

Nearby, Rag and Bones Bindery creates handcrafted books at 1088 Main Street, in a 7,600 sf mill built in 1920. In addition to purchasing and rehabilitating this property, the former Providence-based company came to Pawtucket with 15 jobs.

560 Mineral Spring Avenue, LLC, converted some of its 300,000 sf textile mill in the Lorraine Mills Complex at 560 Mineral Spring Avenue into space for artists. Currently 50 artists operate studios in the mill with an additional 40 studios planned for future development.  These studios will take up approximately 93,000 sf of space in this mill.

Also, in the former Lorraine Mills Complex, a Pawtucket manufacturer is planning to convert 38,000 sf of mill space to lease live-work or studios. The plans call for developing eight affordable live-work lofts, from 700 to 1,200 sf (from $600 to $1,200 per month). Also, seven studios from 450 sf to 5,000 sf will be available soon.     

Finally, a California-based developer has signed a purchase and sale agreement to purchase the 500,000 sf Hope Webbing Company Mills located on 1005 Main Street. The developer plans mixed use of the 1889 mill.  One portion of this historic mill will be dedicated to light industry. About 200,000 sf of space house live-work lofts, studios, and performance space. 

While many urban industrial cities are losing young adults because of reduced employment opportunities, Pawtucket’s arts development policies are bringing the creative artists and entrepreneurs back into its old mills to live or operate a business or studio.

Pawtucket’s Arts & Entertainment policy has brought new life to the Pawtucket’s historic downtown core and throughout the 8.9 square mile radius of the City. Over one million sf of space in historic mills and commercial properties have been saved, restored and are seeing new uses as artist live/work, studios, or housing artistic venues.

An Arts & Entertainment initiative can bring innovative and creativity into a community. Additionally, it can enhance the quality of life in a community. As an economic engine the growing number of artist studios and live/work lofts can bring restaurants, create jobs, and attract tourist dollars. 

For more information about Pawtucket’s Arts & Entertainment initiatives, call Herb Weiss, Pawtucket’s Economic & Cultural Affairs Officer, at 401/724-5200; or e-mail to: hweissri@aol.com.

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As you can see, there is a lot going on up in Pawtucket. So if you have any questions about the Renaissance in Pawtucket, here's your chance. Herb will be checking in occassionally to answer our questions.

 

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 08:22 PM

Herb's a great guy, and very helpful. He's been known to tour people like myself around and point things out during any given business day, or weekend. He's a great ambassador.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 09:18 PM

ArtInRuins, on Mar 22 2005, 09:22 PM, said:

He's been known to tour people like myself around and point things out during any given business day, or weekend. He's a great ambassador.

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Well I was thinking something like that might be something we could ask him to do for a group of us from here at UrbanPlanet if there were enough interest. Does the lack of posts here denote a lack of interest?  :(

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 07:04 AM

Cotuit, on Mar 22 2005, 09:18 PM, said:

Well I was thinking something like that might be something we could ask him to do for a group of us from here at UrbanPlanet if there were enough interest. Does the lack of posts here denote a lack of interest?  :(

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I am here an available to answer questions...Here's a hot news tip.  The 500,000 sf Hope Webbing mill at 1005 Main Street has been purchased for reuse as live work lofts for lease, studios for lease, performance space, restaurant, retail and light industry (50,000 sf already rented to woodwokers from Providence).  The closing  will be finalized today.

The developers will develop this site to be a major art destination stop in Rhode Island.  They were attracted to Pawtucket by this mill, the growing arts  communilty and a City government that is very artist  friendly.  Those cruizing UrbanPlanet to this thread heard this first.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 07:53 AM

Herbs, on Mar 23 2005, 09:04 AM, said:

I am here an available to answer questions...Here's a hot news tip.  The 500,000 sf Hope Webbing mill at 1005 Main Street has been purchased for reuse as live work lofts for lease, studios for lease, performance space, restaurant, retail and light industry (50,000 sf already rented to woodwokers from Providence).  The closing  will be finalized today.

The developers will develop this site to be a major art destination stop in Rhode Island.  They were attracted to Pawtucket by this mill, the growing arts  communilty and a City government that is very artist  friendly.  Those cruizing UrbanPlanet to this thread heard this first.

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I was wondering the status of the old train station... Will it become another restaurant? Will it be restored back into a train station to help draw in the Bostonians?  How important is this development for the continuing efforts of Pawtucket?

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 07:56 AM

Yes, that is a good question. Where does the train station stand, now that the city council has decided not to take by emminent domain? Is that the end, is it getting knocked down?

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 08:44 AM

Last I heard from the Pawtucket Foundation was that even though the city has decided to not take it by eminent domain, the zoning board can stop developers plans to turn it into a CVS, apartments and an auto parts store (ick) by not granting the variances needed to convert it into commercial/residential. The last meeting I heard of was March 9.

The Pawtucket Foundation's Save our Station page
ArtInRuins: Pawtucket Central Falls Station

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:37 PM

I don't know how many people I speak for but there definitely isn't a lack of interest in the opportunity given here.  Welcome Herb and thanks much for lending your time.  Sorry if I've been a ghost lately but things have been hectic and I probably won't even be back on here during the next five days or so.  That being said, I look forward to some interesting point exchanges when I come back.  Once again, welcome Herb and thank you for joining us.

Now going back to the station, my question is about what other zoning changes/plans do the two cities have in store as far as development in the surrounding area of the station.  There is a desperate need to maximize the space around this station for it to work (dense space for work, live, and play), it essentially needs to be the focal point of any core revival.  Much like the Providence station in relation to Capital Center.  How radical are Pawtucket and Central Falls willing to be to truly take advantage of the stop?

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 04:06 PM

Herbs, on Mar 23 2005, 09:04 AM, said:

I am here an available to answer questions...Here's a hot news tip.  The 500,000 sf Hope Webbing mill at 1005 Main Street has been purchased for reuse as live work lofts for lease, studios for lease, performance space, restaurant, retail and light industry (50,000 sf already rented to woodwokers from Providence).  The closing  will be finalized today.

The developers will develop this site to be a major art destination stop in Rhode Island.  They were attracted to Pawtucket by this mill, the growing arts  communilty and a City government that is very artist  friendly.  Those cruizing UrbanPlanet to this thread heard this first.

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That is fantastic news!

And thanks for letting us know...that is pretty awesome.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:44 PM

Cotuit, on Mar 23 2005, 07:56 AM, said:

Yes, that is a good question. Where does the train station stand, now that the city council has decided not to take by emminent domain? Is that the end, is it getting knocked down?

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The old train station is very important to the city.  We believe that it is a key economic development project for that area of the our community and will have a major impact in that neighborhood.  Currently, the City Council defeated the Administrations attempt to take the train station property by eminent domain.  The City Council  voted to give the developer a zoning change to allow commercial development on the Pawtucket portion of the site.  The developer's purchase and sale agreement called for the rezoning.  'A second vote by the City council resulted in giving thumbs down to the zoning change.  So, at this time nothing  is happennig.  Both sides are assessing the impact.


However, the City of Pawtucket is moving forward to push for a commuter rail stop to be placed at this station.  Federal and state grants are allowing data to be  compiled to determine the feasibility.  Mayor James E. Doyle is doing everything he can to keep the developer from tearing down the train station.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 05:33 PM

Herbs, on Mar 23 2005, 11:44 PM, said:

The old train station is very important to the city.  We believe that it is a key economic development project for that area of the our community and will have a major impact in that neighborhood.  Currently, the City Council defeated the Administrations attempt to take the train station property by eminent domain.  The City Council  voted to give the developer a zoning change to allow commercial development on the Pawtucket portion of the site.  The developer's purchase and sale agreement called for the rezoning.  'A second vote by the City council resulted in giving thumbs down to the zoning change.  So, at this time nothing  is happennig.  Both sides are assessing the impact.
However, the City of Pawtucket is moving forward to push for a commuter rail stop to be placed at this station.  Federal and state grants are allowing data to be  compiled to determine the feasibility.  Mayor James E. Doyle is doing everything he can to keep the developer from tearing down the train station.

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That is great news...
Another questoin i have has to do with the Hope site. Are there other buildings within that general area that will also be turned into condo style apartments, thus creating a village style section for the would be tenents...

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 08:30 PM

Mij, on Mar 24 2005, 05:33 PM, said:

That is great news...
Another questoin i have has to do with the Hope site. Are there other buildings within that general area that will also be turned into condo style apartments, thus creating a village style section for the would be tenents...

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Yes, the Union Wadding mill on Goff Street (probably 500,000 sf.   Will give you an  update about this property soon...

Here's an article about the Hope Webbing mill site that was in the Projo today.

Investors see Hope as urban village

Developers say the Hope Webbing complex will become a self-contained community, with its own restaurant, bar, gym, theater for live performances, and boutiques.

01:03 PM EST on Thursday, March 24, 2005

By JOHN CASTELLUCCI

PAWTUCKET -- A factory complex idle for more than a decade was purchased yesterday by a group of investors who plan to transform it into an urban village, complete with a restaurant, office suites, artists' lofts and, oh, yes, a bowling alley.

Journal photo / Steve Szydlowski
Ron Wierks, of Urban Smart Growth, stands in the bowling alleys on the top floor of the Hope Webbing mill complex in Pawtucket. The sprawling complex, which once employed more than 1,000 people, will be transformed into an urban village, say the devlopers, in a five-year, $25-million project.


Hope Webbing, the 115-year-old factory complex in Woodlawn that once employed more than 1,000 people, was bought by an investors' group led by California developers who specialize in acquiring historical buildings and adapting them to new uses.

Ron L. Wierks, East Coast representative of Urban Smart Growth, the developers' property management and construction arm, said everything of historical significance on the 13-acre Hope Webbing site will be preserved, including the bowling alley that the mill owners built for their workers.

Wierks, who led a tour of the former textile factory with Michael R. Gazdacko, the project manager, said the bowling alley will be transformed into a lounge where people who live and work in the former factory complex can relax.

"We take old buildings and we try to keep the historic integrity and make them useful again," Wierks said.

He said the first tenants of the renovated Hope Webbing complex will probably be the light manufacturing firms -- a furniture refinisher, a woodworker and a metal stamping company -- that are being displaced from the Eagle Square mill complex in Providence, which Urban Smart Growth is cutting up into apartments.

The Hope Webbing development is expected to take five years and cost $25 million. Wierks said that the key to the project was the state historic tax credits the General Assembly passed four years ago. The state credits, combined with the 20-percent historic tax credits offered by the federal government, have made it worthwhile for developers to acquire dilapidated mill buildings and fix them up.

The investors' group that bought Hope Webbing consists of several family trusts, a financial firm, and a limited liability corporation headed by Lance Robbins, a Berkeley, Calif., lawyer who specializes in development work, and Frank Gamwell, head of a construction management company that has done projects for Disney, the University of California at Los Angeles, and Amgen, the West Greenwich, R.I.-based biotechnology firm.

A deed filed in City Hall yesterday showed the investors group paid $2.575 million for the Hope Webbing complex, though it is largely empty. One of the few remaining tenants, Cooley Inc., a local manufacturing company, uses part of the 600,000-square-foot complex for warehouse space.

Wierks said the developers plan to transform the half-dozen buildings in the complex into factory space for light manufacturing companies, 80 to 130 office suites for businesses and 150 to 200 loft-style apartments for artists.

The plans call for the complex to be a self-contained community, with its own restaurant, bar, gym, theater for live performances, and boutiques.

The courtyard, now a desolate area full of potholes and fallen bricks, will become a warm weather performance venue, with musical concerts and live dramatic performances, Wierks said.

Urban Smart Growth will have its East Coast regional office in the mill complex. Wierks said the developers are hoping to turn Hope Webbing into a destination, and plan to retain ownership until it catches on.

Mayor James E. Doyle called it the largest such project in the city in recent memory and predicted it would help boost's Pawtucket's reputation as a mecca for the arts.

The section of Woodlawn where the factory complex is located, between Main Street, Esten and Warren avenues, and Dudley Street, has already begun to draw artists. They've acquired mill buildings and turned them into lofts and studios even though the area is outside the special district the city created seven years ago to offer breaks on artists' sales and income taxes.

"It's going to have a big spillover effect in Woodlawn," Doyle said, providing construction jobs for people in the neighborhood as well as new sales for local businesses.

Doyle said the redevelopment of Hope Webbing will continue the trend of artists moving into Pawtucket from Providence, helping to fulfill city officials' dream of revitalizing the city by luring artists into dormant mill buildings.

Things didn't look so promising for Hope Webbing in July, when the bleachery, a building in the complex with the Hope sign visible from Route 95, caught fire and burned to the ground.

At the time, M&P Management, a group of New Jersey-based investors, was negotiating to buy the factory complex out of receivership. In September, M&P Management paid $900,000 for the property and went looking for a buyer. Lowe's Home Improvement Warehouse, the big hardware chain that recently opened stores in Warwick and Cranston, was rumored to be interested in acquiring the mill complex and tearing it down for one of its stores.

Wierks said Urban Smart Growth has no such intention. The company, which has done projects in Los Angeles, Portland, Ore., Bloomfield, N.J., and Columbus, Ohio, as well as Providence and North Providence, is planning to nominate the complex for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Properties.

"We've been doing this since 1984, in Los Angeles," Wierks said. "That's where we created the idea of working with old buildings."

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 08:36 PM

Here's an excellent article about affordable artist housing issues in Pawtucket. This article was published today in the Providence Phoenix.

HOUSING CRUNCH
Although the plight of artists and affordable housing has gained more attention since Eagle Square, things are not necessarily any better
BY ROBIN AMER


AN ITEM LISTED for the March 15 meeting of the Providence City Plan Commission — "CASE NO. 00-046MA X EAGLE SQUARE" — seemed innocuous enough on the surface. But Feldco’s attempt to eliminate one of the conditions for final approval of its project in Eagle Square could open a lot of old wounds. The bland listing, after all, hinted at none of the intense public debate that raged five years ago over the New York company’s initial proposal to demolish a complex of historic mill buildings — including the fertile and widely recognized Fort Thunder art collective — to make way for a Shaw’s supermarket and other development.

The resulting uproar from artists, preservationists, and others led Feldco to offer a second plan that preserved some of the mill structures. Now, though, Feldco, which is apparently having difficulty renting artist studio space at $15 per-square-foot on one floor in the Uncas and Crawford Seed buildings — the rate set during past negotiations — seems interested in changing this condition. (As it turned out, Feldco requested that the matter be pulled from the agenda for the March 15 meeting. Spokesman Gene Beaudoin did not return a call seeking comment.)

It remains to be seen what happens with this attempt at below-market rent — the only thing, notes Erik Bright of the Partnership for Creative Industrial Space "that was given to the artists population displaced by the redevelopment." It’s clear, though, that many artists still feel under the gun in the Providence, the city’s continued promotion of itself as an arts mecca notwithstanding. In addition to the Eagle Square evictions, a year has passed since 60 artists were evicted on a day’s notice from mill buildings at Oak and Troy streets in Olneyville, and it’s been two years since the Station fire prioritized issues of fire safety statewide.

These influential events have not necessarily made things better, safer, or easier for Providence artists. Some have been dissuaded from living in mills. But Laura Mullen, the artists’ affordable housing liaison for the Rhode Island State Council for the Arts, says that the ones who have chosen to stay "are so afraid of getting busted by the code enforcement people that they’re not even putting up permanent structures, or are putting up structures that are even shoddier because they’re hastily done, so they can be hastily disassembled," in the event of short notice fire inspections or evictions.

This situation, Mullen notes, is the very opposite of what is desirable. "What we want is people becoming invested in their space because they know they can stay," she says, "so that they then take the proper precautions working with the code officials to make the space a safe space." Yet public dialogue on the issue has not been forthcoming, largely because of the precarious living situations of some artists.

Mullen is currently working to address these issues with several groups, including Rhode Island Citizens for the Arts, the Rhode Island State Council on the Arts, and the Housing Network of Rhode Island. The first step is a survey about the "current and ideal live/work conditions" for Rhode Island artists, which indicates that a large portion (62 percent of respondents) make less than $25,000 a year. Mullen says this information is important in showing developers of affordable housing that artists are part of their demographic.

Pawtucket, another city garnering attention for its arts and revitalization efforts (see "Pawtucket makes its move," News, February 18), has yet to really face the thorny issue of artists living illegally in mill buildings. That city is attracting artists, but as one person put it, "If you’re asking if Pawtucket has a Fort Thunder, the answer is, ‘No.’ " So far, Pawtucket’s art scene has attracted mostly older, established artists and, as a result, it has largely been spared the clashes, conflicts, and hand-wringing that come with artists dwelling illegally in old mills.

Why hasn’t Pawtucket seen the same sorts of artist communities develop as in Providence? It could be the absence of institutions like the Rhode Island School of Design, which draw young artists to Providence and help keep them here. Pawtucket also lacks stores and services within walking or biking distance that cater to the arts’ community.

Part of the reason for the concentration of illegal underground mill living in Providence is certainly the cache. To the people living there, the spaces carved from the blank slate of industrial workspace are exciting, dynamic, and community-oriented. But more importantly, the lack of affordable workspace, plus the lack of affordable housing, leads some artists to illegal mill living because these spaces meet their physical needs — and it’s all they can afford.

The type of space available in Providence and Pawtucket, and their relative affordability, makes a big difference. Most mill redevelopment projects in Providence have been of the high-end variety. These projects have largely preserved historic buildings, but they decrease the affordable workspace available to artists and other small businesses, and displace much of the arts community.

Developers in Pawtucket, on the other hand, have actually developed affordable workspace for artists in a way that developers in Providence have not. You can see examples of this at 545 Pawtucket Ave. and 560 Mineral Spring Ave. Both buildings have been divided into units ranging from 500- to several thousand-square feet, which are rented out as workspace. With the exception of a few thousand square feet, both buildings are fully occupied with artists and light manufacturers, and there’s a waiting list to get into 545 Pawtucket Ave. Many of the artists and craftspeople in these buildings live in Providence but work in Pawtucket precisely because these spaces are there. The studios in 545 Pawtucket Ave. include those of Cloth, formerly located on Westminster Street on the West Side of Providence, Highchair Design Haus, photographer Scott Lapham, silkscreen artist Pete Cardoso, woodworker Corwin Butterworth, and bookbindery If’n Books & Marks. They’re all Providence institutions, but they ply their trade in Pawtucket.

The man largely responsible for developing affordable commercial space in Pawtucket is real estate broker Len Lavoie. Lavoie has been brokering commercial and industrial real estate in Rhode Island for 27 years, and the building owners he represents have been the first and only ones to develop affordable workspace on this scale. Lavoie says that after the evictions at Eagle Square, he convinced building owners he knew to divide up their buildings and turn them into clean, safe, legal, reasonably priced work spaces.

This is not to say some artists haven’t tried to live in these spaces. "I was here one morning," Lavoie says of 560 Mineral Spring Ave., "to do some work and put some fliers up at about 6 or 7 o’clock in the morning. A young lady walked past me in her bathrobe and slippers. There was no way she was going to tell me she wasn’t living here." The reaction to such instances, Lavoie says, is severe and decisive. "She was out the door by 3 o’clock in the afternoon," he says. "The police were removing her. In order to make these things work, we have to do them properly. We have to abide by the law."

Some affordable, newly remodeled workspace will soon be available in Providence. Lavoie is helping to develop workspaces in 951 Hartford Ave., a mill building right behind Atlantic Mills in Olneyville. And the Partnership for Creative Industrial Space, led by Lisa Carnevale and Monohasset Mill’s Erik Bright, are master-leasing the old Dunlop Tire building at 200 Allens Ave., which they plan to make available as workspace.

What no one in either Providence or Pawtucket has yet made available is affordable live-workspace that mimics the experience of illegal mill living. The construction cost is one reason for this, but code is another, especially since the state building and fire code was changed following the Station fire.

Paul Audette manages property for Pawtucket-based Providence Metalizing, a company with substantial real estate holdings around the Lorraine Mill complex in Pawtucket. After the evictions at Oak and Troy streets in January 2004, Audette says, a group of artists from that building came to him looking for live-work space. He had 10,000 square feet of space he would have been happy to set up for them — "wide open all the way," he says. "Brick walls, stairwells, double-wide bit." Audette approached the planning department and the city’s fire marshal with his preliminary plans, saying, "What I want to do is make a dormitory for these people and the rest is a workshop. The max would be 10 people, dormitory living, the rest is a workshop; anyone who doesn’t conform to the group has to leave." According to Audette, the response was, " ‘absolutely no.’ By the time I got through [with requests from planning and the fire marshal], the people could no longer afford it. I had plans all over the place that I had to abandon." Audette adds that this is a statewide issue — one that developers in every city and town are now forced to contend with. The state fire marshal’s office did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Although many people see new developments in Providence and Pawtucket as a sign of good things to come, others lament the hot real estate market’s ability to continually displace artists and other small businesses. Mullen says, "One of the saddest things about this conversation is that the era of incredibly cheap square footage is just gone from these buildings. The era for $200 rent for 2000-square-foot little factory spaces is just gone. [It’s sad] because I think that allowed a lot of people who wouldn’t necessarily be in a position to own their own business to own their own business; or to work in a business or to have a space."

Meanwhile, a wave of new luxury residences is planned in Providence. A Boston subsidiary of Intercontinental Real Estate Corporation, for example, plans to develop 193 luxury condos in two high-rise towers adjacent to the State House. How such projects will impact artists and their access to space, beyond the obvious issue of displacement is not clear, but Cliff Wood, director of Providence’s Department of Arts, Culture and Tourism, says that his office is there to help facilitate and sustain the development of new artists’ spaces, if and when artists take the initiative. "If you’ve chosen to go through the city, then it’s our job to assist your sustainability, to guide you through the law, to guide you through the resources available to you. Therefore as we guide you through it, when you’re done, it’s cool. If you want to go around it, see what happens."

The arts remain an important part of Rhode Island’s identity and economy. Providence, Pawtucket, and the state all say they want to encourage and nurture this trend. But if they truly do, they’ll need to help ensure that price and code issues don’t drive out the artists responsible for this activity.



Issue Date: March 25 - 31, 2005

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:20 PM

I'm so excited about Hope Webbing. Phew. I'm relieved that Lowe's didn't get to level it as Home Depot did a couple of years ago in Providence with the Silver Spring complex.

THese are good times for us mill huggers. The Foundry, Rising Sun, Ashton in Cumberland, Royal Mill in West Warwick, and now Hope Webbing. It looks like the state tax credit program as well as the enlightened and energetic work of people like Mayor Doyle and Herb Weiss are saving the state's industrial architectural heritage.

Let's hope that the General Assembly keeps the tax credit in place. I remember that last year Costantino and some others on the House Finance Committee were talking about scrapping it.

PS- a memory about the Hope Webbing building. I live about a mile south in the Summit area of Providence. I remember every so often outside my house I would smell this almost sickly sweet scent like corn syrup or cotton candy. I was a mystery what was causing it for some time. Until I discovered the culprit on a happenstance drive down Esten St. in Pawt. - the Hope Webbing bldg was being used to manufacture candy.

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 09:44 AM

gregw, on Mar 24 2005, 11:20 PM, said:

I'm so excited about Hope Webbing. Phew. I'm relieved that Lowe's didn't get to level it as Home Depot did a couple of years ago in Providence with the Silver Spring complex.

THese are good times for us mill huggers. The Foundry, Rising Sun, Ashton in Cumberland, Royal Mill in West Warwick, and now Hope Webbing. It looks like the state tax credit program as well as the enlightened and energetic work of people like Mayor Doyle and Herb Weiss are saving the state's industrial architectural heritage.

Let's hope that the General Assembly keeps the tax credit in place. I remember that last year Costantino and some others on the House Finance Committee were talking about scrapping it.

PS- a memory about the Hope Webbing building. I live about a mile south in the Summit area of Providence. I remember every so often outside my house I would smell this almost sickly sweet scent like corn syrup or cotton candy. I was a mystery what was causing it for some time. Until I discovered the culprit on a happenstance drive down Esten St. in Pawt. - the Hope Webbing bldg was being used to manufacture candy.

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Glad you have the mories about this mill.  Here's another article about the Hope Webbing mill and the developer's vision to transform the 13 acre site into an artist village. -- Herb Weiss

03/24/2005

Old Hope site sold; in line for makeover  
David Casey  

PAWTUCKET -- The Los Angeles-based company that purchased the six-building, 600,000 square-foot former Hope Webbing mill complex for $2.5 million Wednesday plans to invest an additional $20-$25 million to transform the late 19th century brick-and-timber behemoth into a veritable Greenwich Village.
Ron Wierks, the director of operations for Urban Smart Growth’s fast-growing east coast bureau, said the company intends to restore the buildings back to their original condition and fill them with artists -- a familiar strategy in Pawtucket.

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USG, which "takes old mills and under-performing assets and re-develops them into viable assets for the community," according to Wierks, is artist-friendly Mayor James Doyle’s dream-come-true.

For the past seven years, Doyle has courted the state’s arts community, which has been increasingly priced-out of the Providence marketplace. After several successful mill conversions, arts festivals and a truckload of economic outreach, he’s finally managed to fill two city block’s worth of un-taxable tinder at the heart the city’s new 300-acre Arts & Entertainment District with a honeycomb of Bohemian cafes, artist’s lofts, workshops and retailers.

"This is the biggest project to hit the City of Pawtucket in the last 50 years," Doyle told The Times Wednesday. "Nothing even comes close. To see the amount of money they’re putting into this and the scale and quality of this project ..this is going to make people who haven’t noticed Pawtucket before, stand up and pay attention. If someone is building a massive project like this here, maybe people will start wondering why."

Doyle knows that buzz begets buzz, and for the better part of the last decade, he’s believed that Pawtucket can achieve economic success by repackaging itself as a trendy, urban outpost. The logic is simple: Artists like mills because they’re affordable and spacious; mills in Providence (just 7 miles away) and Boston (about 45 miles away) are too expensive; and Pawtucket, a depressed mill city straddling Interstate 95, could use the buzz consumer markets artists bring with them.

According to Wierks, who is in the process of getting the 600,000-square-foot complex re-zoned from industrial to general commercial (Pawtucket’s Arts and Entertainment District only provides for tax-free art sales), the "Hope Artiste Village" will be a regional commercial-cultural "destination."

All told, the complex will feature boutiques and artists’ galleries, live-work space, apartments, restaurants and cafes, light-industrial space (woodworking, glass-blowing, etc.), an outdoor live music venue in the courtyard, a black-box theater and an executive business center, where out-of-towners can rent fully-equipped office space by the month.

The breakdown is roughly: 25-30 percent living space, 40 percent retail, 15 percent office space, 10 percent restaurants and cafes, and 10-15 percent light manufacturing, according to Wierks.

Manufacturing units will range from 1,600 to 10,000 square feet, starting at $5 per square foot; live/work units will be around 2,000 square-feet, starting at $5 per square foot; and apartments will range from 700 to 1,400 square-feet, starting at $2 per square foot.

And this is no rush-job, according to Wierks, who helped introduce the run-down East Coast mill market to USG’s core market of run-down Art Deco motels and apartment buildings in Southern California.

After all, Rhode Island’s generous historical tax credits are the number one reason this nationwide developer chose to base its east coast bureau in little, old Pawtucket.

"The basic tax credits in the State of Rhode Island are a tremendous incentive to developers like us," said Wierks. "That’s what we do -- we restore buildings to their original condition. We get the city’s support and all of the exposure, and they get the ambience and people they’re looking for."

As such, floors will be sanded and re-finished, brick and tresses left exposed wherever possible, and windows replaced with stylistically-appropriate facsimiles of their 100-year-old counterparts. And this sort of attention to detail takes time.

The entire project is expected to take five years to complete, with buildings 1-6 reaching completion in order of market priority.

The Hope Artiste Village will become the fourth east project for USG, which is currently working on the Eagle Square project in Providence (144 condo units), Greystone Mill project in North Providence (136 condo units) and a 114-condo complex in Bloomfield, New Jersey.




  
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 10:02 AM

The city has been hoping for this revival for some time now... with the re-relocation of DMV, why isnt the old apex building the clear front runner, considering the smooth transition, and making the DMV a more plesent atmosphere...? Is it in the hands of the city or is it more of a state venture. Sorry one last thing.... if the dmv were to leave the city would it hurt the progress that the local government has been pushing forward?

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 07:47 AM

Mij, on Mar 25 2005, 10:02 AM, said:

The city has been hoping for this revival for some time now... with the re-relocation of DMV, why isnt the old apex building the clear front runner, considering the smooth transition, and making the DMV a more plesent atmosphere...? Is it in the hands of the city or is it more of a state venture. Sorry one last thing.... if the dmv were to leave the city would it hurt the progress that the local government has been pushing forward?

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We believe that the DMV will be moved to Cranston this summer.  The Governor is pushing to move MANY of the state agenceis scattered throughout the state to the Cranston complex (it's state property).    Apex is privately owned and the City can only describe its vision to that individual, who ultimately will develop the property that wayhe wants.

I do not believe that  moving the DMV will hurt the City's efforts. The users do not come into the City and spend their money.  However, we were able to assist a restaurant (Crazy Burger) to get a loan interest loan to open in the old Newport Creamry site at Apex.

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 12:31 PM

I think having Pawtucket thought of in the same breath as a visit to the Registry can't really be good for the city. After spending an eternity in the Registry, people are only going to want to leave and get as far away as possible.

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 05:25 AM

Cotuit, on Mar 27 2005, 12:31 PM, said:

I think having Pawtucket thought of in the same breath as a visit to the Registry can't really be good for the city. After spending an eternity in the Registry, people are only going to want to leave and get as far away as possible.

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That is the truth.  State agencies were put in Cities througout the state in hopes of having a positive impact on the host community.  The DMV really did not  bring a lot of money into the City.  Waiting in long lines for service did not give  people much  time to  drive around to seasrch out a restaurant.   They probablly lost their appetite too.

For those who are interested, Pawtucket's first published artist resource directory will probably be back from the printer at the end of the week.  We were able to compile the names of hundreds of artists and creative sector companies.  Those seeking one of a  kind art work or creative sector services can easily identify the appropriate artist or company by the table of contents listing a comprehensive listing of headings.  In Pawtucket, we consider artists to be small bssinesses.  The intent of publishing this directory was to get customers into our City to buy art work or services to support the City's creative community.

For more information about this project call Diane Agostini at 724-5200.

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 11:52 AM

Herbs, on Mar 23 2005, 09:04 AM, said:

I am here an available to answer questions...Here's a hot news tip.  The 500,000 sf Hope Webbing mill at 1005 Main Street has been purchased for reuse as live work lofts for lease, studios for lease, performance space, restaurant, retail and light industry (50,000 sf already rented to woodwokers from Providence).  The closing  will be finalized today.

The developers will develop this site to be a major art destination stop in Rhode Island.  They were attracted to Pawtucket by this mill, the growing arts  communilty and a City government that is very artist  friendly.  Those cruizing UrbanPlanet to this thread heard this first.

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Just curious. Are you aware of any restaurant chains or coffee shops moving into Pawtucket- -or significant retail establishments? A Starbucks would be nice, ha, ha.




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