Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge

[Quixotic 1]

There are erosion barriers lining the parking lot behind the historic houses at the corner of Taylor and 6th Ave. North. It looks like the mixed use project proposed for that corner may be getting underway. I think this is the link to the docket that was posted on this site in April of this year.

http://www.nashville.gov/Portals/0/SiteContent/MHZC/docs/2014%20Meetings/04%20April%2016/SR%206th%20and%20Taylor%20COMPLETE.pdf

[MLBrumby]

I like this project.  It's on a scale that fits the neighborhood... and there is a new row of townhouses that front on 5th, opposite the alley behind this project.  And I like that they are renovating/remodeling the commercial space across 6th Avenue. 

[smeagolsfree]

So - I was driving by vacant land at the railroad tracks and Heiman Street, near the 2500 block and noticed a sign for a zoning hearing to change zoning to RM40. 

 

I can't find any information about the hearing online and thought some of ya'll might know something about it, or know where I could find out about it (besides calling in, which I plan to do Monday if no info)

 

Also - RM 40 seems to be zoning that goes a bit beyond normal apartments - the language says something about structured parking and walkable community. I highly doubt someone is getting that ambitious in North Nashville (remodeled houses are really starting to move, but that area is quite a ways away from the spillover areas from Germantown and Buena Vista) to do something imminently, but this has been the best place to come for info on this sort of thing.

 

Thanks!

The only information I can find at this time is an LLC and the owner. Looks as if it is Heiman Street Partners is listed as the owners. The LLCis FMBC Investments, LLC.The website is here: http://www.fmbcinvestments.com/ .The actual Development tracker map was down, but the search feature was working. When the map comes back online, there may be more information such as the application and site plan, but not always.

[rookzie]

So - I was driving by vacant land at the railroad tracks and Heiman Street, near the 2500 block and noticed a sign for a zoning hearing to change zoning to RM40. 

 

I can't find any information about the hearing online and thought some of ya'll might know something about it, or know where I could find out about it (besides calling in, which I plan to do Monday if no info)

 

Also - RM 40 seems to be zoning that goes a bit beyond normal apartments - the language says something about structured parking and walkable community. I highly doubt someone is getting that ambitious in North Nashville (remodeled houses are really starting to move, but that area is quite a ways away from the spillover areas from Germantown and Buena Vista) to do something imminently, but this has been the best place to come for info on this sort of thing.

 

Thanks!

 

"... I highly doubt someone is getting that ambitious in North Nashville..."

 

So-so right. This piques my interest also.  Seems a bit head-scratching, to say the least!  I spent 7 of my first ten years in that immediate neighborhood during the 1950s (on 23rd, north of the (then) Knowles senior home (east of those tracks, at Heiman and 23rd).  Much of that property along those tracks near Heiman had been primarily industrial during the '50s and '60s and into the early '70s.  A handful of parallel tracks formed what still is known officially as the Jefferson Street Yard of the Nashville and Western RR.  Tennessee Tufting Company and Agrico Fertilizer were two primary firms of booming business during those days accessible from that part of Heiman.  In the '50s a small but popular wrestling ring arena (Maceo's) frequently drew crowds during the weekends, and around 1962 this "dive" was replaced with a 32-lane bowling alley (Pinnacle AMF Lanes), which had been typical in the major entertainment trend of that period.  Needless to be said, this had been a favorite and very popular hangout for the college crowds and locals throughout all North Nashville during those pre-Interstate years (in part due to limited accessibility to other similar venues during that period of desegregation).  Except for the spotty and very modest retail development on upper Jefferson (between 26th and 28th) during the last 30 years, I've noticed absolutely no indicator of any lower-Jefferson-like re-urbanization.

 

Basically everything has been stagnated in that chopped up northwest sector of Nashville bordered by Charlotte/Clifton/Jo Johnston Avenues on the south; 40th Ave on the west; the Cumberland River and Clarksville Pk on the northwest (with pockets of residentials north of that highway and adjoining Metro Center); and on the east by I-65 and lower Jefferson (in parts of Hope Gardens west of Eleventh Ave), with very few notable exceptions such as the new Cal Turner Family Center at Meharry Medical College (21st Ave) and Matthew Walker Health Center (14th Ave).  It seems that the demarcation of redevelopment and investment generally has fallen along the border of I-65 (formerly I-265).

 

The older barriers of two distinct railroad companies (CSX, and NWRR), the dissection by the 1960s' I-40/I-65 construction (with very few surface cross-passings, unlike at the downtown portion of the same Interstate system), and the historically undeveloped plains along the river behind TSU (and including TSU's agricultural facilities), along with general transportation constraints onto and away from that portion of North Nashville, in summary have rendered that entire portion segmented and sequestered from market-induced development (similar to what had occurred concurrently with East Nashville during the construction of I-65 and Ellington Pkwy in the Cleveland and McFerrin Park districts).  Heiman extends from TSU at 28th on the west, and it used to extend to align with the existing Monroe St. in the Buena Vista district.  When the Interstate construction condemned all that land (like splitting the end of a firewood log in 3 ways) Heiman St. was forced to dog-leg totally away from its original path to a new ending at about 11th Ave, within a district which formerly was called "Wharton".  Just about anywhere one travels in that particular stretch, is basically locked from "influence" by the interstate.  Most of this part of North Nashville comprised much of the original inner street grid, east of 28th on the northwest, and 40th Ave., north of Clifton Ave.

 

Unlike in "common" city layouts where "compass" sectors are defined with discreet division quadrants as NW, NE, SE, and SW, the haphazard manner that Nashville was expanded (along radial pikes) during the early 20th century has created confusion on what constitutes the border of North Nashville and West Nashville.  Many consider anything west of 40th Ave. but north of Clifton Ave as being within North Nashville (unofficially), although in following jagged and undefined or questionable boundaries, properties along Charlotte Ave. east of I-440 and north of West End are "officially" considered part of North Nashville.  In observing the renaissance of development of Buena Vista, Salemtown, Germantown, and along the 2200-to-3100 block stretch of Charlotte, one might never believe that Heiman Street was even a part of North Nashville.  I agree; RM-40 sounds sort of mind-boggling for Heiman.

 

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Edited November 5, 2014 by rookzie

[mirydi]

Snapped a few pics of the amphitheater before the meet Saturday. Looks like they're making a lot of progress on the structure of the stage. 

 

 

[mirydi]

Another development with Highwoods and the Sheet Music site. 

 

Highwoods expands prime downtown office tower site

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/real-estate/2014/11/highwoods-expands-prime-downtown-office-tower-site.html

 

 

[barakat]

This mentions a potential Edition Hotel for the Gulch.

 

http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2014/10/20/175838/04/hotels/Music_to_Our_Ears%3A_An_Ace_and_an_Edition_May_Be_Coming_to_Nashville

Edited November 3, 2014 by barakat

[NikOnder]

Driving by the cbd this morning I noticed a long mechanical arm extending from the roof of the Pinnacle. It appeared to be extending from either the north or the western side of the building, though, which made me curious as to whether it was a camera for the SoBro site or something else. However later today after lunch, it appeared to be gone. Anyone know what that was? Seems to me if it was a camera it would have made sense to be coming from the south side, assuming it was for SoBro.

Edited November 3, 2014 by NikOnder

[dmillsphoto]

Driving by the cbd this morning I noticed a long mechanical arm extending from the roof of the Pinnacle. It appeared to be extending from either the north or the western side of the building, though, which made me curious as to whether it was a camera for the SoBro site or something else. However later today after lunch, it appeared to be gone. Anyone know what that was? Seems to me if it was a camera it would have made sense to be coming from the south side, assuming it was for SoBro.

That's how they clean the windows. 

[NikOnder]

That's how they clean the windows. 

 

Derp! Well now I know, haha

[bwithers1]

There was something on the Planning and Council agenda recently about a social services provider who is expanding the footprint of their existing campus.  Would that make sense for the property in question?  It seems that it was in the district that Edith Taylor Langster represents if my memory serves.

[titanhog]

This mentions a potential Edition Hotel for the Gulch.

 

http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2014/10/20/175838/04/hotels/Music_to_Our_Ears%3A_An_Ace_and_an_Edition_May_Be_Coming_to_Nashville

There's something confusing about that article.  They state that "Virgin" is also another boutique hotel coming...and it will also be in Printer's Alley, like Ace.

 

Are they mistaking the Richard Branson Virgin Hotel with something else...or is there a boutique hotel called Virgin going in near Printer's Alley?

[Leif]

There's something confusing about that article. They state that "Virgin" is also another boutique hotel coming...and it will also be in Printer's Alley, like Ace.

Are they mistaking the Richard Branson Virgin Hotel with something else...or is there a boutique hotel called Virgin going in near Printer's Alley?

I thought perhaps they meant it'd be in the same room count arena.

[titanhog]

I thought perhaps they meant it'd be in the same room count arena.

Oh...ok.  That makes sense.

[Vrtigo]

Random photos of the Ryman expansion:

 

 

 

Seems like an odd update to the entryway... I'm sure it will look more appealing when it's finished, but I thought the previous layout was quite functional and am not sure how this one is going to compare.

[rookzie]

There was something on the Planning and Council agenda recently about a social services provider who is expanding the footprint of their existing campus.  Would that make sense for the property in question?  It seems that it was in the district that Edith Taylor Langster represents if my memory serves.

 

Yeah, it does make real sense for the context of that location.  I knew that you probably would be the most likely one privy to an answer, if anyone.

 

I'm somewhat taken aback by the scarcity of such initiatives, since that sector is one of the most disadvantaged parts of the 37208 zone.  In a manner of speaking, it's analogous to the Dead Sea, in the sense that very little diversity is present in that area, with barely detectible flux of activity ─ except of course what one hears weekly, if not every other day, in media of incidents in tragedy, and on a more positive note, the Jefferson Street  Heritage Park Project, a recent post-mortem "monument" to the dissection of the district by the Interstate and built as a plaza beneath the I-40 skewed-angle, 6-lane, viaduct-like underpass. (actually an attempt to transform into a pedestrian park, the blighted space overshadowed by the large footprint of the Jefferson Street I-40 underpass in the 2500 block ─ not a bad idea, though)

 

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Edited November 3, 2014 by rookzie

[BnaBreaker]

This mentions a potential Edition Hotel for the Gulch.

 

http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2014/10/20/175838/04/hotels/Music_to_Our_Ears%3A_An_Ace_and_an_Edition_May_Be_Coming_to_Nashville

 

I'm stunned that we're getting such exclusive hotels these days.  Edition hotel locations: Shanghai, Abu Dhabi, London, Istanbul, Miami, New York, Bangkok....Nashville. 

[NashvilleTaylor]

"... I highly doubt someone is getting that ambitious in North Nashville..."

 

So-so right. This piques my interest also.  Seems a bit head-scratching, to say the least!  I spent 7 of my first ten years in that immediate neighborhood during the 1950s (on 23rd, north of the (then) Knowles senior home (east of that those tracks, at Heiman and 23rd).  Much of that property along those tracks near Heiman had been primarily industrial during the '50s and '60s and into the early '70s.  A handful of parallel tracks formed what still is known officially as the Jefferson Street Yard of the Nashville and Western RR.  Tennessee Tufting Company and Agrico Fertilizer were two primary firms of booming business during those days accessible from that part of Heiman.  In the '50s a small but popular wrestling ring arena (Maceo's) frequently drew crowds during the weekends, and around 1962 this "dive" was replaced with a 32-lane bowling alley (Pinnacle AMF Lanes), which had been typical in the major entertainment trend of that period.  Needless to be said, this had been a favorite and very popular hangout for the college crowds and locals throughout all North Nashville during those pre-Interstate years (in part due to limited accessibility to other similar venues during that period of desegregation).  Except for the spotty and very modest retail development on upper Jefferson (between 26th and 28th) during the last 30 years, I've noticed absolutely no indicator of any lower-Jefferson-like re-urbanization.

 

Basically everything has been stagnated in that chopped up northwest sector of Nashville bordered by Charlotte/Clifton/Jo Johnston Avenues on the south; 40th Ave on the west; the Cumberland River and Clarksville Pk on the northwest (with pockets of residentials north of that highway and adjoining Metro Center); and on the east by I-65 and lower Jefferson (in parts of Hope Gardens west of Eleventh Ave), with very few notable exceptions such as the new Cal Turner Family Center at Meharry Medical College (21st Ave) and Matthew Walker Health Center (14th Ave).  It seems that the demarcation of redevelopment and investment generally has fallen along the border of I-65 (formerly I-265).

 

The older barriers of two distinct railroad companies (CSX, and NWRR), the dissection by the 1960s' I-40/I-65 construction (with very few surface cross-passings, unlike at the downtown portion of the same Interstate system), and the historically undeveloped plains along the river behind TSU (and including TSU's agricultural facilities), along with general transportation constraints onto and away from that portion of North Nashville, in summary have rendered that entire portion segmented and sequestered from market-induced development (similar to what had occurred concurrently with East Nashville during the construction of I-65 and Ellington Pkwy in the Cleveland and McFerrin Park districts).  Heiman extends from TSU at 28th on the west, and it used to extend to align with the existing Monroe St. in the Buena Vista district.  When the Interstate construction condemned all that land (like splitting the end of a firewood log in 3 ways) Heiman St. was forced to dog-leg totally away from its original path to a new ending at about 11th Ave, within a district which formerly was called "Wharton".  Just about anywhere one travels in that particular stretch, is basically locked from "influence" by the interstate.  Most of this part of North Nashville comprised much of the original inner street grid, east of 28th on the northwest, and 40th Ave., north of Clifton Ave.

 

Unlike in "common" city layouts where "compass" sectors are defined with discreet division quadrants as NW, NE, SE, and SW, the haphazard manner that Nashville was expanded (along radial pikes) during the early 20th century has created confusion on what constitutes the border of North Nashville and West Nashville.  Many consider anything west of 40th Ave. but north of Clifton Ave as being within North Nashville (unofficially), although in following jagged and undefined or questionable boundaries, properties along Charlotte Ave. east of I-440 and north of West End are "officially" considered part of North Nashville.  In observing the renaissance of development of Buena Vista, Salemtown, Germantown, and along the 2200-to-3100 block stretch of Charlotte, one might never believe that Heiman Street was even a part of North Nashville.  I agree; RM-40 sounds sort of mind-boggling for Heiman.

 

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This area is gonna blow up in development.  There was a 265?  I am confused.  How can that be? 

[titanhog]

I'm stunned that we're getting such exclusive hotels these days.  Edition hotel locations: Shanghai, Abu Dhabi, London, Istanbul, Miami, New York, Bangkok....Nashville. 

Yes...unprecedented growth for Nashville.

 

Question: what do you guys think are some of the major reasons that Nashville is the "it" city at the moment?

[e-dub]

yep:

http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/ix65.html#265tn

[Leif]

Yes...unprecedented growth for Nashville.

Question: what do you guys think are some of the major reasons that Nashville is the "it" city at the moment?

Domestically it's so expensive, housing wise, to live in a top tier city I think perhaps people are flocking to the lower tiers with good press.

[rookzie]

yep:

http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/ix65.html#265tn

thanX...

[MLBrumby]

I think some of what is going on is a result of the "big boys" passing on Nashville a few years ago.  I recall the rumor of the Four Seasons at the 21st and Broadway corner, across from where Aertson (still can't quite say that right) is going up.  About five years ago, Four Seasons could have had that whole market to themselves (by now and) for a few years going.  The other factor going on is that there is such an uptrend in boutiques across the board, even for business travelers. I still wonder if Hyatt will really go up at the FBC site on Demonbreun.  That agreed sale price ($18m) is astronomical.  They'd be betting very big on "it" city as a convention destination.

[smeagolsfree]

This area is gonna blow up in development.  There was a 265?  I am confused.  How can that be?

I 265 use to run north of downtown. It is now just I 65. The stretch that is I24 going across the river was 24 and 65.

They just changed the designation a dozen or so years ago to funnel the 65 traffic around to the west.

[smeagolsfree]

I am pretty sure that one of the television stations has a camera atop the Pinnacle.