[Allan]

Here's a preview of what's to come, before the next official Trump Tower information is released this week.

http://www.trumpchic.../test/index.htm

[savethewtc]

Great timing Future Architect. I just posted these new renderings/models at SSC yesterday. Here they are:

[Allan]

I can't wait to see this actually being built. It'll be a great addition to the Chicago skyline. Thanks for posting the renderings, savethewtc.

[turlough]

I love this building I think it's the best Trump has done

[savethewtc]

Here's an update:

Trump unwraps building plan
Skyscraper would be city's 4th-tallest; completion set for 2007

By Mary Umberger and Thomas A. Corfman
Tribune staff reporters
Published September 24, 2003

Charging into Chicago in the midst of a questionable real estate climate, Donald Trump on Tuesday unveiled plans for his massive mixed-use skyscraper on the site of the Chicago Sun-Times building.

Trump said that construction on the 2.4 million-square-foot Trump International Hotel & Tower would begin next summer with the demolition of the Sun-Times building and that the tower would be ready for occupancy in 2007.

The 90-story structure will include condominiums, office space, a "condominium hotel," retail stores and restaurants. At 1,125 feet, it would be the city's fourth-tallest skyscraper, two feet shorter than the John Hancock Center.

The plan has been scaled back since 2001, when Trump announced he would build a 150-story building. That plan was loudly criticized for overwhelming the space along the Chicago River at 401 N. Wabash Ave.

Acknowledging the criticism, Trump said Tuesday that the design changed because the original size became less desirable after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"Prior to Sept. 11, we had plans for 150 stories, the tallest building in the world," he said. "What we end up with is a better building, a more practical building."

He also ends up in a questionable real estate climate in Chicago, where both the office and condo markets have entered a slump.

Some real estate analysts say that even though the city's condo boom has greatly subsided, the residential part of the plan could have relatively little competition at its highest end.

Trump's condos, on the 40th through 88th floors, will range from $470,000 for a one-bedroom unit to $8.7 million for an 11,616-square-foot penthouse.

"We've had very little new construction of high-end condos until the last two years," said Gail Lissner, who tracks the downtown residential market for Appraisal Research Counselors. "There has been a lot of pent-up demand for high-end luxury. Most of the [downtown] development in the late 1990s was middle market."

Others are less optimistic.

"He doesn't have financing, and most lenders are going to insist on [having significant numbers of] pre-sales before giving him financing," said James Kinney, president of Rubloff Residential Real Estate, which is known for sales of high-end Gold Coast properties.

"In this market, the investor crowd has gone to the sidelines. At the prices they're looking at, I don't think you can convince them of turning a profit in 2007."

Trump said he wasn't worried about financing the structure, which would be topped by television broadcasting antennas and which could cost as much as $650 million.

"It's very easy for me to get financing," he said. "Every major financial institution wants to be involved in this deal."

Although the condo hotel concept is fairly well known in other major cities and in Europe, it has been relatively untried in Chicago. Under the concept, hotel suites are sold as condominiums to private buyers, who allow the hotel to rent them out when they're not in use.

"If you're talking about 2007 and beyond, that time frame is good news" for Trump, said Melinda McKay, who analyzes the hotel market for Jones Lang LaSalle in Chicago. "The hotel market has undergone a severe downturn over the past couple of years, though now Chicago is one of the better-performing markets in the U.S.

"It's an excellent location, and the condo approach to financing hotel development is becoming increasingly popular. Trump did the same thing in New York. I think it could work."

The office market is also a hurdle, and Trump is offering far less office space than originally planned. The initial plan of more than 1.2 million square feet was cut to 351,500 in the version announced Tuesday.

The Sun-Times could account for as much as third of that if it moves back in, an option that has been under consideration since parent company Hollinger International Inc. announced the joint venture with Trump more than two years ago.

"They could very well come back. ... We're trying to work out a deal," Trump said.

The Sun-Times is still evaluating its options, including short-term arrangements, should it decide to return, said Publisher F. David Radler, who is also president and chief operating officer of Chicago-based Hollinger International.

Despite the reduced office space, which will be on the 17th through 26th floors, Trump insisted that interest among potential tenants is strong.

Although Trump is confident about finding financing, some experts said the deal didn't depend as much on his financial wizardry as on his marketing machine's ability to sell condos and sign leases with office tenants and retailers.

"This is not an environment in which lenders are looking to take a lot of risk," said Bruce Cohen, chief investment officer of Chicago-based real estate investment bank Cohen Financial

"When all is said and done, the project has to have some of the risk taken out of it. If it's residential, it's pre-sales. If it's retail or office space, it's got to be pre-leased."




DECEMBER 2001: The first version of Trump Tower Chicago is made public. It is sharply criticized as too bulky and a visual bore.


JULY 2002: Architect Adrian Smith of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill dramatically alters the original design, making it less a series of stacked boxes and more an essay in soaring verticality.


SEPTEMBER 2003: With fewer floors devoted to offices, Smith further slims the tower, refining its glass exterior and breaking down its scale so it is less domineering alongside the Wrigley Building.


Donald Trump describes his planned Trump Tower of Chicago, to be built on the site of the Sun-Times building on the Chicago River.

[LSyd]

it's cool and all, i just wish they'd gone for WTB...

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[Allan]

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it's cool and all, i just wish they'd gone for WTB

Me too, but I don't see the U.S. recapturing the WTB title anytime soon .

savethewtc, thanks for the update.

[tocoto]

It's good to see that there are still real plans for major skyscrapers in the USA. The building looks sleek and impressive. The cost of high rise living in Chicago is amazingly reasonable compared to other cities like NY, Boston and SF. I can't imagine those condos lasting long on the market.

[JS9]

Soooooo....what's the latest on it? Have they broken ground on it or what?

[Allan]

The last thing I heard is that they are still looking for tenants. So it hasn't started construction yet. It'll probably start next year sometime.

[Cotuit]

I don't see any tacky brass or T R U M P in GIANT letters. This can't be the same Trump I'm thinking of.

People in NYC are kinda dissappointed (well really dissappointed) in what Trump has done. He has so much real estate in New York, he really could have left the city with another Rockefeller Center, a really great project, but he's just spread around a bunch of really crappy buildings. Looks like Chicago may be the city to finally benefit from Trump's pocketbook.

[Skymissile162]

Construction on the TCC, recently renamed Trump International Tower, is slated to begin sometime in spring or early summer 2004. The exact date depends on, as Future Architect already pointed out, when they get a high enough number of tenants signed up.

J P

[Allan]

Thanks for the update, Skymissile. I'm hoping to see this tower under construction when I visit Chicago next summer.

[turlough]

yeah thanks for the update sky

[Skymissile162]

I too hope to see this building under construction during my next visit to Chicago, which will probably be around next Christmas. BTW, what do you guys think of the building's new name? Personally, I like it a lot better.

J P

[turlough]

I like it I think it shows that this is Chicagos and Chicago's ONLY

[Skymissile162]

Trump International Tower now has 100 floors! The height has apparently been increased as well, to perhaps 1200 feet. In this rendering, you can see the transition from the shorter 90 story model to the present one. Enjoy!


J P

[turlough]

OK i think this is going to be Trumps best can he come to Sumter and do stuff like this?

[Allan]

Awesome! This is great news. If anything I figured it would be shortened. In this case I'm happy to see that I'm wrong! Is it still supposed to begin construction this year? The Sun-Times still needs to move the people out of the building and demolish it. I don't see it starting construction until next year myself.

I think Trump needs to go to San Diego. He needs to challenge the FAA & try to build a tower taller than 500 feet. If any one person can get their height limit lifted it would be him.