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H20 Urban Waterfront District

timmay143 — Sat, 10 May 2008 07:55:20 -0500

Looks like good news for this project.

H2O Developers plan waterfront district

One Beale

Clobber — Sat, 10 May 2008 07:40:59 -0500

Ditto. I'm presuming the new design will not be too much different than the current one, in terms of style of the new tower. But it'll be interesting to see what they do with the space of the old tower. I also like the idea of a taller building.

Whats going on in East Tennessee?

Tennesseestorm — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:00:48 -0500

Well, to update the big bridge in downtown Bristol is finally completed and about to open. I cannot wait to see the view of downtown from the bridge. I know there will be a nice view of Shelby Towers from the bridge (as you head toward Martin L King Jr. BLVD.), but not sure about the other parts of downtown.

I think the new downtown restaurant is about to be built.

Still NO word on the downtown parking garage, or the "20+ story" building that I heard was proposed for downtown.

21 Story Tower for Knoxville

Tennesseestorm — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:55:15 -0500

QUOTE (RedStar25 @ Apr 27 2008, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What are you talking about? They put up a sign. Thats it. Nothing but over grown weeds and trash on the lot right now.

How funny.

One Beale

Rural King — Fri, 09 May 2008 22:22:11 -0500

I like that the Carlisle Group continues to adjust plans as needed to move the project forward. I would much rather see an impressive new taller tower on that site, then to see the project linger and hinge on hopes the economy turns around sooner rather than later. This is positive news IMO and I look forward to seeing the redesign.

Signature Tower

nashvylle — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:39:38 -0500

I saw that too. I found the "out of the box" stuff interesting as well. I like how they said the main probably was the banks tough requirements on loans (via economy), rather than presales. I would love to see this break ground this year. Who cares about the delay, as long as Signature Tower gets built.

One Beale

Memphis77 — Fri, 09 May 2008 18:47:50 -0500

QUOTE (qwertycc @ May 9 2008, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Memphis Business Journal

New developments in One Beale. Down to 1 tower. It will be taller, but no word on how much taller. Hopefully, we'll hear more soon.

Sounds like it may be around 40-50 stories instead. At least 40 which would be the tallest ever built in Memphis and will give the Memphis skyline a new signature look. Can't wait to see the final design.

Signature Tower

timmay143 — Fri, 09 May 2008 18:21:49 -0500

Just saw a report on Channel 4 reporting how he is a year behind and is waiting on the housing market to turn around, he hopes in months. Same stuff. However, one interesting thing he said was about some "out of the box solutions" which he couldn't disclose at the moment. Wonder what that means?

Thermal plant site

donNdonelson — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:35:26 -0500

After looking at images from the Pinnacle construction webcam for a while now, I've grown quite fond of the large patch of green on the left side of the screen. Perhaps the old thermal site should be kept mostly as a green urban park.....a "front yard" for all those new downtown dwellers. Toss in some gardens, fountains, trees and lush turf and it could become an awesome addition to the riverfront.

Signature Tower

nashvylle — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:00:05 -0500

ParkAve--
Tony's problem isn't selling the most expensive condos high up, as a matter of fact the 5 million penthouse on the 70th floor is under contract (not just reserve), and I believe the there were more on the 65-70th already under contract.

I agree with Plasticman and blame the economy. This building needs lax lending requirements to get it off the ground so the buyers on the bubble will put forth the money; and I believe it will sell out once it goes under construction.

As far as the April Marketing, I know for a fact that Tony is waiting for the economy to settle down before he puts for the marketing compaign, which yes was supposed to be in April.

Hopefully the economy and lending requirements will improve very soon.

Signature Tower

FromParkAveToTN — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:36:20 -0500

I wasn't suggesting that Nashville wasn't ready for a tower of 70 stories, but my point is I don't think he's going to find too many people that will want to live up that high. I hope this building is a success, but I really don't see it happening. I hope he proves me wrong.

Signature Tower

ariesjow — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:22:00 -0500

What about the option of increasing the number of hotel rooms? Tony mentioned that was a possibility. Does anyone know how practical that option would be at this stage?

Signature Tower

Plasticman — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:04:35 -0500

The number of floors of this building isn't what is holding it up. It is the economy. If this project had been approved back in 2004 or 2005 it would be standing tall today. Going higher is expensive but I cringe when I hear someone mistakenly say things like "Such and such city isn't ready for a building this tall". There is no "ready" to it. That premise just doesn't make sense to me. The only thing that matters are the local height restrictions, the infrastructure of the area like water, sewer, etc., and the demand. If all are in line, you could build a 2,000 foot tower in a Nebraska cornfield.

Does anyone know how his April marketing push is going? I have the feeling if it were good news it would be all over the media.

Signature Tower

nashvylle — Fri, 09 May 2008 11:54:15 -0500

Does anyone have a link to that fox story, I thought I saw a fox story about a week or so ago, and I wonder if it's the same one.

I don't think reducing the # of floors is an option, just because he'd have to get it passed by mdha and then start from scratch. I think the economy is a huge part in the delay, but I read in the Economist yesterday (which is a negative magazine IMO) that they think the worst of the credit crunch is over.

Would it be possible to turn some of the condos into apartments? I believe this might add a bunch of money to the project and maybe get it off the ground sooner than later.

More East Nashville Infill Development

JGarrison — Fri, 09 May 2008 10:42:16 -0500

I would certainly hope they will address the Woodland Street side � perhaps even more than the Main Street side. I live in this neighborhood, so I've thought about this quite a bit. With that park right there, I always thought that development on the discussed block could make for quite an area.

One Beale

qwertycc — Fri, 09 May 2008 10:39:02 -0500

Memphis Business Journal

New developments in One Beale. Down to 1 tower. It will be taller, but no word on how much taller. Hopefully, we'll hear more soon.

Signature Tower

FromParkAveToTN — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:44:00 -0500

I think this is going to be a parking lot for a long time. At least not until he lowers the number of stories. It's sad that he doesn't realize that.

Memphis Pictures

Fellowmann20 — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:25:42 -0500

Nice pictures L T! Thanks for showing them. I really like the picture of the newly renovated Goodwyn Tower.

Signature Tower

Shuzilla — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:23:16 -0500

QUOTE (jice @ May 8 2008, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The DT condo market may not be saturated, but at what price point can condos still be sold? The ST spaces seem awfully expensive. Part of the RE bubble was folks overextending themselves to get double-digit returns on as expensive a property as one could get financing for. A 10% appreciation on $500K is twice that of $250K, right? Unfortunately, a 10% depreciation is twice as much of a hit on the more expensive property, as millions are learning. The real question is, if you buy it, will someone be there to buy it form you at a price reasonably close to what you paid?

For me, the trend to living downtown is not the same as living downtown long enough to make buying smarter than renting. I think that Nashville is and will be for some time a suburban city, and folks will migrate to the suburbs to raise families more often than not. For the prices of many of these condominums, there are lots of choices in the nice old suburbs within 20 minutes of downtown. We need $150K condos that 20-somethings can afford without having to sacrifice the lifestyle that draws them downtown.

More East Nashville Infill Development

it's just dave — Fri, 09 May 2008 06:18:29 -0500

I think the keyword here is "apartments and retail." With home and condo sales continuing their nationwide slide, reports are that apartments are becoming much, much more prevalent in development plans. I think the area would benefit from both these projects as rentals. If these succeed, look for the boom. Just look at parts of the Murfreesboro Road corridor. The increased density has created huge amounts of retail and small office. I wouldn't expect anything on that scale to develop as "strippish" as that, particularly given the strict East Nashville guidelines and its proximity to downtown, but I see the area becoming very densely populated over the next few years because of higher fuel prices, still high home prices, lenders' reluctance to lend money to those underqualified, and the proximity to downtown amenities.

There are still huge (collectively) swaths of land on which to build an active and diverse community here. This will help the immediate area and provide population density figures to help attract businesses either in the core, or in the new ring of development around the core that seems to be burgeoning right now. "Bringing it all home" so to speak. If Mt. Juliet can build its Disneyland Providence and be such the suburbanites dream, East Nashville can build a real city, even in these days. I, for one, think it will happen sooner than later. And East will be so much cooler. Transit options and even walking into downtown are distinct possibilities to increase the attractiveness of this area even more.

More East Nashville Infill Development

East Side Urbanite — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:17:04 -0500

Friends,

the former BofA site is massive so you have to wonder -- given the slumped economy -- how Double A can pull off such a large-scale development. Maybe it will be done in stages. District Lofts (which is in North Capitol, and not Gemantown, as noted in the article) is a very nice project.

WW

Signature Tower

jice — Thu, 08 May 2008 22:38:47 -0500

Saw Tony G on the local Fox news tonight.. didn't hear all of it, but he did mention that the downtown condo market is not saturated, even including all the new projects under construction.. there is still demand for somethin like 2000 more I think?

Also, the reporter said Signature Tower may not get completed until 2011. And some mention of the project being a victim of the economy right now.

Nothing really newsworthy here I guess... just nice to know the project is still on Tony's mind.

Berry Hill development design concepts

timmay143 — Thu, 08 May 2008 22:35:03 -0500

It would be crazy if Berry Hill transformed like that! Great find.

More East Nashville Infill Development

it's just dave — Thu, 08 May 2008 18:52:23 -0500

Both of these projects are just what's needed to continue a renaissance being boosted by 5th & Main. The bank property has been vacant for so long, I'm particularly interested in what's in store for that acreage. As the article stated, it's unusual to have such a large site available for infill development. I sense a grocery component among other things.

Excellent news for the east side.

More East Nashville Infill Development

bwithers1 — Thu, 08 May 2008 17:02:49 -0500

TN article about East River development, 8th Street & Ramsey
Attached is an article about the demolition and redevelopment of an apartment complex at N 8th Street and Ramsey, which runs parallel to Main Street one block north. These apartment buildings are immediately behind some businesses on the north side of Main Street and are quite an eyesore. I am thrilled to hear that more "workforce housing" will be going in so close to 5th & Main.

On a side note, while I applaud Mike Jameson for pushing LEED design, are all buildings in Nashville going to have to comply?

More East Nashville Infill Development

bwithers1 — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:57:13 -0500

Tennessean article about redevelopment of 800 Main Street "Bank of America" site

Attached is an article about a possible redevelopment of 800 Main Street, the nearly block-long site of the Bank America processing center that was to house Bridges Academy. The development will likely include apartments and retail. As I understand the zoning laws, if the building is torn down, the new structure would have to front Main Street, which will be a big help. I am not sure about the Woodland Street side, though, which is at a higher elevation.

Franklin / Williamson County

timmay143 — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:11:43 -0500

I am not sure if they are a big enough tenant (Jackson National Life Insurance Company), but Alex or Eakin need to jump on this opportunity to lure a tenant DT in one of their offices.

Nashville Forum meeting

smeagolsfree — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:02:36 -0500

Sorry I was not able to make the meeting. Work hours have taken off for me right now and I will be scarce for a while it seems. I hope to make it next month. Need a lot more participation from you guys to make the meetings a little more interesting. I would bet the next meet will be at the Encore. I need to check on some details. Yes its slow right now, but not for ever and hopefully not much longer.

LEED Certified Buildings in Nashville

smeagolsfree — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:58:09 -0500

Here is a slide presentation from the Tennessean about Green Buildings. Interesting shots.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ga...0806&Ref=PH

ICON

titanhog — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:00:56 -0500

I know some may disagree, but I wish they would have used some other material to go with the red brick instead of the "stucco" look. IMHO, it looks very cheap.

May Town Center

grapa — Thu, 08 May 2008 10:01:25 -0500

Population and debt can not be stopped! We make wise management decisions at times and struggle to deal with these societal problems at others. We tend to make band-aid style decisions neighborhood by neighborhood hoping that these problems will go away and not rear their ugly heads again.

The budget proposal is before us on the local and state level. There are problems that have arisen that society as a 'whole' will suffer from and have the responsibility to solve. So, that means you and me! We can not stick our heads in the sand and want things to stay "just as it has always been" in our own neighborhood.

We can hold onto the 'tales' our parents and grandparents share with us of times that are often thought to be the happy years growing up. But, we live in a period and society with much different problems and demands that our parents and grandparents did not have to face. I can not drive across town into someone else's neighborhood to work, shop and for family entertainment and then return to my home and expect it to remain as it has been for the last 100 years, or more.

The developments of the week have revealed cuts in jobs and department budget reductions at a time our local educational budget seeing an increase in funding. The leaders of Davidson County will be making the decision of trying to maintain where we are economically or how do we work out of the hole we find ourselves in today. Will Davidson County make the hard decisions to build for the future and be prepared to deal with the delicate and unexpected demands that come with community planning.

Franklin / Williamson County

smeagolsfree — Thu, 08 May 2008 04:31:10 -0500

500 jobs may be coming to Franklin. Large insurance company.

Here is the link form the TN.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...ESS01/805080360

ICON

jice — Wed, 07 May 2008 23:28:15 -0500

Man, the ICON is getting sooo close.. I actually walked on the sidewalk in front of it It's not completely re-opened yet.. but its almost there. Lots of windows already in place, lots of finishing touches happening..

I hope they do something else to the cap at the very top though.. to me it doesnt look quite finished.. like it needs a lil somethin else.

Anywayz.. looks like they are doing an orientation for future residents pretty soon.. there are a couple signs up around the Gulch, one right in front of the ICON garage:

Nashville Wiki Page

jice — Wed, 07 May 2008 23:17:56 -0500

QUOTE (timmay143 @ May 7 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I talked to some one today, and it seems the best thing to do is type a summary and cite the source.

That's what I figured.. find out anything regarding pictures?

Franklin / Williamson County

franktown — Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:55 -0500

As much as I hate it, it's good for the region as a whole to have companies here; even if they're in Wilco. For instance, Nissan is doing the partnership with the Nashville Symphony to help Metro Schools even though they're going to be in Wilco.... a rising tide lifts all boats. It's just too bad they'll end up in CS instead of DT.

Nashville Wiki Page

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:21:05 -0500

I talked to some one today, and it seems the best thing to do is type a summary and cite the source.

Franklin / Williamson County

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:18:45 -0500

Thanks for the reply franktown. I haven't been to Brentwood in awhile. I am also guessing Franklin will win. Oh well, at least they are in middle TN and if they are coming from Mich. then it might bring more Predwings to town (helping the hockey image, even if they do cheer for the Red Wings)!

Franklin / Williamson County

franktown — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:56:06 -0500

I sure hope it goes to DT, but I fear it won't because if it comes down to Franklin v. Metro, Franklin is always willing to shell out the cash to get businesses, sadly. BTW the Brentwood thing hasn't really panned out.... it's going, but it's a VERY, VERY slow process. If you go down there and look you'll hardly notice it's under way.

Preds Owner Freeman Close To Buying Baseball Team

Lexy — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:48:30 -0500

I really hope, and believe, the Jax will stay in Jackson. I think that is awesome and really unique for Jackson, TN and a good thing for the area in general.

Franklin / Williamson County

Rural King — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:41:08 -0500

The possible relocation of a division of the Jackson National Life Insurance Company to either Cool Springs or the AT&T building without incentives sounds great. This is a very positive sign that the Nashville metro is becoming quite attractive business locale via its own synergy and merits, perhaps enough so that incentives will play a less important role in luring new businesses/industries during these slower economic times nationally.

Franklin / Williamson County

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:24:54 -0500

Also found this on the skyscrapercity page from Insighter. It is about an urban design of a Brentwood town center. Has anyone heard anything else about this?

http://www.nashville.gov/mpc/pdfs/urban/Me...entwood_UDO.pdf

Franklin / Williamson County

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:15:39 -0500

Here is a link to a Tennessean article about the possibility of a large insurance company relocating to middle Tennessee. They talk about Franklin (Cool Springs) and Nashville (DT in the AT&T building where Nissan is vacating) being two possibilities. Hopefully, Nashville can snag this one to help DT office vacancy, sorry Franklin.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...9/80507062/1164

Memphis Pictures

Louisiana Thunder — Wed, 07 May 2008 19:27:45 -0500

Preds Owner Freeman Close To Buying Baseball Team

Hankster — Wed, 07 May 2008 19:01:20 -0500

QUOTE (producer2 @ May 7 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Word on the street is the Mayors office was succesful in burying the proposed legislation the Sounds backed last week that would allow for useage of State tax dollars to fund a stadium. Guess you shouldn't mess with City Hall when asked to leave things alone. Might Mr. Freeman be the answer to this puzzle?

I don't know. But, I would strongly suggest that the current Sounds management seek an offer for their franchise. Now's the time for someone locally to make an offer for the team.

Preds Owner Freeman Close To Buying Baseball Team

producer2 — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:45:23 -0500

Transit in Nashville

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:26:54 -0500

Thanks for that link drewbert, and by the way welcome to the boards! It looks like MTA has some tough cutting to do. It looks like Nashville is not totally immune to the crappy economy. Obviously high gas affects everyone. Hopefully, Nashville will do better than other areas in the country during these times.

Nashville Wiki Page

timmay143 — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:17:12 -0500

Not sure how to reply in the user talk thingy. I'll figure it out later. I understand your concerns, and I was wondering the same but mainly about pictures. I'll try to find some info regarding the copyright, and in the mean time I will remove the articles for now.

Nashville Wiki Page

jice — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:38:37 -0500

QUOTE (timmay143 @ May 6 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok, I added some stuff to the Pinnacle page. Check it out and feel free to change or suggests changes. I just went to the Pinnacle website and started getting some info from there. Hopefully, I will slowly add more stuff to this page and others.

Thanks for the help! I will be updating again someday.. just got a lot goin on at work at the moment.

I also added some more comments on your UserTalk on the wiki.

Suntrust parking garage to get face-lift

J0e — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:42:57 -0500

I spoke with a friend who works for SunTrust about this. She indicated that SunTrust doesn't even own the building anymore. The company sold it to Central Parking some time ago.

QUOTE (franktown @ May 4 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I"m glad about the restaurant, but I acutually kinda like the skin on that one.... it's unique. You've got to wonder if they could make more by just selling the thing off to development.... it's a great location!

Transit in Nashville

drewbert — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:33:53 -0500

Ah. Thanks!

By the way, MTA has posted their powerpoint for the public hearings to their site:

http://www.nashvillemta.org/PDF/May2008-PublicHearings.PDF

Interesting stuff in there. Will take some time to absorb.