Of course there wouldn't be one the weekend of my wedding . Glad I didn't hype it beforehand...

- Garris

Here is the 2008 Waterfire schedule.

http://www.waterfire.org/season-schedule/2008-schedule

What is the best place to sit outside and have a beer in Providence?

I would actually like to see Blackstone park bulldozed to make it 3 lanes each way. With a special lane devoted to fast cars.

Maybe some surface parking.

I thought foreclosures were more urban based, just by perception, but I was wrong..

Thanks for the reply! Fox Point sounds awesome. Our budget isn't enormous, but it's not bad, either...partially because we keep other expenses down by owning only one car, which means that living in walking distance to Brown is pretty important. I'll definitely check that neighborhood out when we come visit next weekend!

If anybody knows of any specific places for sale, please let me know. We are already talking to a realtor, but I am sure that loads of architectural gems change hands in Providence's East Side without any realtor help, or even knowledge.

I have never lived outside the South before (at least, in other parts of the United States), so this will be a big change for me! I am pretty excited to experience New England...particularly the Fall seasonableness, what with the trees and Halloween and Thanksgiving in a properly brisk environment, etc.

What is De Pasquale Square like? I've seen photos, and it looks pretty. What is the best place to sit outside and have a beer in Providence?

I'd say fox point would be primo. The neighborhood bounded by Benefit, Wickenden, Hope, and Williams is packed with small 18th and early 19th century homes in pristine condition, some on streets you can hardly fit a car down, 5 or 10 minutes walk from Brown. It can be a bit pricey though, I'm not sure what your budget is. If you're looking for a little more of a bargain/fixer upper, try the west side. It might seem like a drag being across town, but this is RI, and nothing is far.


Welcome to the City-State!

Hello! I am a longtime poster here at the UP, mostly in the Nashville forum.

...but, I am moving to Providence! I will be enrolling in Brown's Ph.D. program in the History of Art and Architecture (I am an architectural historian/designer) this fall. My wife and I are looking to purchase a sweet little house in the College Hill thereabouts. I've never even set foot in Providence, so I feel a little clueless...any ideas or recommendations?

I look forward to participating in the Providence forum once I have cut my teeth on the town. It seems like a really exciting place to be! Renaissance City, etc...

PROJO: "Advocates lobby for keeping former Shooters site public"

http://www.projo.com/ri/providence/content...13.39c3acf.html

People I know take the greenline from Riverside. Sure the greenline is sardine packed, but its a more direct route from Providence, no red/green transfer. And the redline from Quincy Adams to Park is about 45 minutes isn't it?

PBN: "Blue Cross sells 2 downtown office buildings"

http://www.pbn.com/stories/31818.html

We happend upon XO Cafe, which although also a steakhouse, at this point we just wanted FOOD.. We sit down and had one of the best dining experiences in recent memory..

Frankie, I'll report back what I think on Sunday night/Monday morning.

I just knew it!

We all need to push for better urbanism guidelines when the 195 land templates get developed.

- Garris

Is there really any hope of this rendering turning into an actual building?

Let me state how I predict this will work:

- Get land for cheap by lying to state (check)
- go back on your word by allowing the building to destroy itself (check)
- get a slimy demo permit (check)
- destroy building (check)
- show pretty pictures to garner public favor (check)
- talk about difficulties of current economy
- talk about receiving some income for the investment
- pave
- petition city for "temporary" surface lot.
- become overflow lot for Providence Place at $5/car, $15 on WaterFire nights

Voila!

... streetwalls being created on Finance Way are a welcome addition, but the urbanism is lacking, the area is setting up to become rather Stamford-like.

I've made countless trips to Fenway, and I almost always rely on the same transportation method: drive to Quincy Adams, park for $5, take the Red line to Park, transfer to the Green. It's cheap, I don't have to worry about traffic and parking, and I have time to sober up before driving out of the T parking garage.

Is there really any hope of this rendering turning into an actual building?

Let me state how I predict this will work:

- Get land for cheap by lying to state (check)
- go back on your word by allowing the building to destroy itself (check)
- get a slimy demo permit (check)
- destroy building (check)
- show pretty pictures to garner public favor (check)
- talk about difficulties of current economy
- talk about receiving some income for the investment
- pave
- petition city for "temporary" surface lot.
- become overflow lot for Providence Place at $5/car, $15 on WaterFire nights

Voila!

Eh, I'm not going to make any sweeping statements, if there are stores that have things I need/want, then I'll likely shop there. Of course I can't get there from my house because I can't walk over Dean Street.

I drove to Fenway on Sunday and I got off the exit and tried to take the MBTA train from RT 128 mainly to avoid the parking rate of $25 but my wife said it was a dumb idea because we didn't know the schedule so I turned around and drove the rest of way.

The problem with the commuter trains is once one comes through there may not be another for an hour.

I don't see people renting cars to attend baseball games. Maybe taking a taxi to a game that didn't have a mass transit option might work. But that adds up pretty fast also.

We are fortunate that we have alternative forms of transportation in this area. But there could always be more.

Regardless, the point in my original post was...

I will not frequent this no matter what...

I think many of us feel, and we've discussed here, that it is not so much the demolition, but the process that needs forgiveness. And the city and state maybe should be asking more for forgiveness than the developer.

Not that I'm fixing to forgive anyone, but a couple of 8 story buildings don't sound too bad, the relationship to the street being the all important factor of course.

$ 110 r/t for 2 to the cape!? Are you kidding? Why!? On Peter Pan ?

Slightly OT, but isn't Waterplace supposed to have some ground floor retail?

I'm guessing this was a trial balloon of sorts to gauge public reaction and see if people have gotten over the demolition of the Fruit & Produce Warehouse; show'em a pretty picture and all will be forgiven.