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		<title>Thinking about moving to Virginia</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=371745:date=Mar 20 2006, 09&#58;41 PM:name=Davidpalmer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davidpalmer &#064; Mar 20 2006, 09&#58;41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=371745"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have never visted Virginia except for when I spent a day at King's Domion, but I have driven through it many times, and have liked what Ive seen. Im here in Tx and will be graduating college in May, and would like to relocate and experience something new. Ive always thought about moving to either North Carolina or Virginia, but had some questions first about Virginia.<br /><br />1. How is the weather during the winter months, does it snow and if so how much. I think cold weather is what keeps me in the south.<br /><br />2. Would I be able to afford a nice apartment(1 bedroom) in a nice area for anywhere from $700-$1000 or Im I out of my mind.<br /><br />3. I don't want to live in an area to small, so I was thinking either Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Richmond. I don't want to live in a city where I will run into the same people every time Im out<br /><br />4. Im not into clubs and bars, however, I do like museums along with concerts and plays, does Virginia get a fair amount coming in each year.<br /><br />5. How are race relations in the major cities of the state. I would like to be in a place where all races interact<br /><br />6. Im coming from a state with no state income tax, and I assume Virginia does, Im I right<br /><br />7. How are the people of Virginia, do they accept others not from the area or are they the type to keep to themselves.<br /><br />8. What are some of the fun things to do in the 3 cities I mentioned earlier.<br /><br />9. Do people tend to lean to the conservative side or the liberal side. I know Republican George Allen is one of the Senators from VA.<br /><br />I plan on taking a trip to Virginia the week following my graduation in the middle of May to check out either Richmond or Norfolk, and Ive already started applying to different places. I would like to have moved by mid summer. As you can see Ive for the most part have made up my mind about moving, since I figure its better to take the risk now, than later when I may have wife and kids. I just wanted to get a better feel for the state as a whole, and the major cities specifically. Feel free to add whatever else you think I should know<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br /><br />I moved to Virginia 1 1/2 years ago from Ohio.  This much I can tell you.<br /><br />2. Credit is the key in this area; if it is good you can pretty much live in whatever you can afford, if it isn't expect to pay considerably more.  If you can find something in a decent neighborhood for less than $1,000 take it by all means.<br /><br />3. With 1.6 million people you aren't bumping into anyone twice.  Even in the same city, same neighborhood.  I wouldn't worry about that too much.<br /><br />4. Virginia does get interesting concerts and plays, and lots of them.<br /><br />5. Race relations seem to be a lot better here than they are in the Midwest.<br /><br />7. People of Virginia are accepting of outsiders, even in smaller towns like Harrisonburg or Staunton they will accept outsiders.  All depends on how accepting you are of them, how versatile you are, and how geniunely interested you are in hearing their point of view or appreciative of the lifestyle, because 1.) it is a lot more conservative here, 2.) a lot more laid back and easy going and it helps to open up a lot more here.  People will talk to you for sure, so just relax and enjoy what Virginia has to offer.<br /><br />8. Just walking around Norfolk in and of itself is fun.  There isn't as much shopping in this area as I would like to see though, personally I like Greenbrier, Military Circle and MacArthur.  Not too keen on what VB has to offer though I think that may change.  I'm used to a lot more malls than what this area has to offer.  The beach is fun of course.<br /><br />Not so sure about Richmond, it looks like an interesting place but having been in Chesapeake for a while I'm just not interested in going out that way.  Richmond, and NOVA seems to be more high paying jobs and great shopping but not a whole lot to do particularly.  I could be wrong but that's just how it seems, like HR would have a lot more character.  Personally I think you'd like Norfolk a lot better.  Look at it this way, Norfolk metro, 7 cities, Richmond, one city with a bunch of suburbs, which would <i>you</i> rather be at?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:40:31 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Your thoughts on Hampton Roads/Tidewater/7cities</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=825645:date=Jul 25 2007, 01&#58;06 PM:name=7citiesVA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (7citiesVA &#064; Jul 25 2007, 01&#58;06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=825645"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hi, I am a new member, but pretty familiar with the site/forum. I have visited this website on a daily basis for the past six months to get the latest news on development, and have just now decided to join so i can start giving my 2 cents. I am a soon to be graduate of Norfolk State University (B.S. Accounting) who was born & raised in Norfolk/Va Beach. I love living here and I have so much pride being from here. I think we are the heart and soul of Virginia.<br /><br />.....with that aside.......<br /><br />The question i have for the moment is more concerned with the culture of Hampton Roads/Tidewater/7 cities (as we younger folks call it) and less about development, so i hope im posting this in the correct place. If not im sorry, and im pretty sure one of the mods will move it. <br /><br />In visiting this site/forum and reading some posts, i have become pretty intrigued by peoples different viewpioints towards our area. Our area is so unique, that there is really no one way to describe it. We have a little bit of everything, and are a bit of everything. (northern, southern, city-ish, suburb-ish, country)................I personally feel we are a southern metro (VA is the south) with a mix of an east coast aura/vibe. Our setup and cities are sort of like the 5 boroughs of New York where each has its own identity and feel to it.<br /><br />so my question is...If a person with no knowledge of Hampton Roads (and there are many) were to ask you to describe it, what would you say?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br /><br />Tell them the truth.  I moved here from Ohio a year and a half ago.  HR is like New York in some aspects; the 7 cities do play more like 5 boroughs but it isn't in others.  With New York the cities actually wanted that consolidation, and did so very early on by the 20th century all of the cities were underneath that NYC roof.  Here not so much, different cities attract and retain different people for different reasons.  In New York people have a strong affinity for the borough they grew up in, and that seems to be the same here as well.<br /><br />HR is perhaps New York here on a much smaller scale, with respect to density.  With respect to the actual amount of land here I think it actually is as large as New York.  Of course there are a lot of people who do not know about Hampton Roads because it is a bit out of the way, no expressways running through it, somewhat of an isolation from what people do associate with Virginia.  Look at it this way, you say Virginia people think one of a few things, Richmond, Norfolk, Virginia & Charlottesville.  People know about NOVA, but it is synonymous with the DC/Baltimore metro in their minds.  People tend to say "Norfolk" before they think of Virginia Beach.<br /><br />I tell people the area is changing, that cities like Virginia Beach and Norfolk are continuing their urbanization efforts.  I also mention that on the other side of the peninsula the urbanization is there but the economic challenges tend to overshadow what little is going on.  Hampton and Newport News are synonymous with crime; one local here told me that Newport News was "more of a Northern city", while VB and Chesapeake were definitively more suburban.  But I beg to differe, as there are different parts of the North.  For example a lot of the area seems more Midwest to me than it does Northeast.  That isn't what anyone wants to hear, but parts of Norfolk, particularly downtown, remind me of Cincinnati or Akron.  Newport News, with it's many numbered streets, sort of evokes ideas of Cleveland.<br /><br />If people want the type of overdevelopment and density that has plagued New Jersey in the last 30 years they shouldn't hold their breath.  I tend to think it will be different here for a number of reasons.  For one people do not want the concrete jungle in Virginia, and I'm not entirely sure that replicating it the way New Jersey has replicated New York City is the best way of going about it.  Virginia already has it's own identity that isn't typified by high-rise construction.  <br /><br />You say that the area is a bit of everything, which is true.  You can be in Chesapeake in the Northern part of town and experience that suburban development then go to the Southern part of town and forget you're even in a city.  The same is true of Suffolk and Virginia Beach, if you are committed to driving far enough to find it.  Norfolk, on the other hand, doesn't have that much land, which is typical of Northern cities that grew up quickly.  Driving everywhere makes you feel as though you are in California at times.<br /><br />It's also been said that while there are certainly pockets of development in HR that are high-rise, high-density will most likely describe the changes that are occuring in the near future.  I see nothing wrong with it; DC is considered to be extremely urban and you're hard pressed to find a higher building then 20 stories.  Whether or not the markets or economic conditions will support this type of thing in HR is something we'll see.  <br /><br />Ideally, I would like to see the look and feel of 264 replicated in 64 all the way to Richmond.  That means at least 6 lanes instead of 4, if not 8 completely.  The southeastern parkway would be interseting, as well as the third crossing.  As far as tolls I don't know, brings back memories of Chicago and having to pay numerous time just to leave the city or the county; may or may not be the best thing.  On the other hand, the monstrosity 64 is becoming in Chesapeake is rather interesting, if anything I think you would want to service those commuting to work in Richmond first, but in any event.<br /><br />Virginia offers a nice mix, which is something a lot of states used to have but are loosing.  Ohio is becoming even more decentralized with even more urban sprawl, destroying what little outdoors was left.  If they ever get their economy right it could become interseting again; but I think it tends to be crumbs from whatever happens in those larger cities in the state and in the region itself.  That part of the country isn't going to fully decentralize itself any time soon.<br /><br />HR is that Southern Metro, however you also have Atlanta and Charlotte and you still have Florida.  But it's too hot for me in those places, I tend to like Virginia just fine, for now at least.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:26:17 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Housing/Real estate/and Economy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Word II the Housin' Bubble!@#!@ #<br /><br />The good news is inventory in the Homicide Roads is still high. Tons and tons of high end inventory. And tons of rental properties coming on the market. <br /><br />Some of the condo buildings have rules that only a percentage can be rented out. This helps keep icky renters out, and also will help to drive EVEN MORE houses into foreclosure! Brilliant. What happens to a condo association that collects fees when the place is only half occupied? All the monthly charges go up for the other owners.<br /><br />So there isn't really much new to report. Inventory remains high, I'm sure there are people buying... (paying too much). Some knifecatchers are thinking they are getting good deals, they aren't. There are some insane scary numbers I've seen where people are taking the number of properties foreclosed and in default and running them against how many are listed, and it appears banks are sitting on a huge amount of houses that they aren't listing for sale yet. Perhaps hoping for gov't bailouts of "homeowners" (which aren't, they are bailouts for banks).<br /><br />Hopefully there WON'T be bailouts, because the best thing for the people is to loose their overpriced house, then move out, and re-buy at a price in line with incomes. Subsidizing poor purchases by people who can't afford them isn't really a good move. But never underestimate the stupidity of politicians. <br /><br />Someone started a neat petition site called www.angryrenter.com ... the comments (at least when it was less than 5,000 signatures) were very intelligent. Good stuff.<br /><br />The odd news is while the local geek group has grown, I'm seeing a lot of locals talking about leaving. While I'm happy they will be able to find better area to live and better opportunities, I will miss some of these guys if they leave. Some of the top talent in the region. The main thing seems to be job dissatisfaction.<br /><br />I got some email from some sync757 group. They had this huge list of their mission, which includes retaining and attracting talent and businesses to Hampton Roads. I emailed the lady back, and of course the responses didn't really address my point. No answers or hint of any real solutions. I can understand, since the real solutions just aren't going to happen.<br /><br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:42:47 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Tornado Hits Suffolk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crazy crazy stuff. I read the warning during my after lunch drive-by of Pilot Online. You get desensitized to the constant warnings. Even after the tornado the news channels wouldn't shut up about who has the best radar system.<br /><br />Anyways, my coworker one office over got the call from his wife who had just survived the tornado. Crazy stuff. At first I figured it was a car accident, perhaps a fender bender or something. It changed pretty quickly into something even more unexpected. He hasn't been back to work yet so I don't know the full story but from what I've gathered he called home and gave his family a heads up... then about a minute later they ran to the bathtub as it hit the house. Nothing left, they crawled out of the bathtub. From what I understand it's just a slab. Another coworker offered trailer but he said that there is nothing to put in the trailer as everything is gone?<br /><br />I was sitting with my other coworker at Fatburger in Chesapeake and there it was on Fox News, and he was able to point out which spot was our friends.<br /><br />Crazy stuff thinking about how quick life can change. Just like that. I remember the feeling when there was a fire in our building and walking out and there was smoke billowing up the open area in the middle. I can't imagine getting the call that it's all gone and family luckily made it out okay -- but it was a close call.<br /><br />I remember Tornados hitting Chesapeake when I was young. And the Cat 5 hurricane threat a few years ago.<br /><br />And of course the brilliant local news stations suggesting people go into your basement if a tornado threat is predicted. Brilliant.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:25:44 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Williamsburg Development</title>
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		<description>Interesting tidbit-Did you notice at the end where it mention the developer of the Marquis, Premier Properties (which Divaris is leasing), has filed for bankrupcy.</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 23:47:55 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=971240:date=May 3 2008, 12&#58;39 PM:name=PeninsulaKiddo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PeninsulaKiddo &#064; May 3 2008, 12&#58;39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=971240"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Any info on when it'll start?  I didn't get the chance to read the article.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />2010]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:00:54 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That building did look highly suspicious  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whistling:" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> <br /><br />Then again, CMSS did design City Center, so recycling is their status quo haha. I also apologize for not putting that news in the City Center thread  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> .]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:42:38 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=971210:date=May 3 2008, 08&#58;39 AM:name=erdogs)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (erdogs &#064; May 3 2008, 08&#58;39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=971210"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting quote. I wonder if the falling dollar doesn't have something to do with this?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br /><br />Possibly, but it goes back to protectionist trade theory.  I think Canon would like to have products it could bill as "in-house(USA)" products, hopefully leading to better sales domestically.  It would also cut down on shipping costs, which are steadily rising because of oil prices.<br /><br />Either way - the office building looks GREAT !  Whether or not the design was plagiarized <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />.<br /><br />Any info on when it'll start?  I didn't get the chance to read the article.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:39:25 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=970617:date=May 1 2008, 11&#58;14 PM:name=adctvmonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adctvmonkey &#064; May 1 2008, 11&#58;14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=970617"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/canon-announces-expansion-peninsula-adding-1000-jobs'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Canon adding 1000 jobs</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"Canon is leading the way and reversing an industry wide trend by bringing manufacturing back to the United States," said Takayoshi Hanagata, the president and chief executive of Canon Virginia Inc., which oversees the local operations.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Interesting quote. I wonder if the falling dollar doesn't have something to do with this? <br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 08:39:06 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=970933:date=May 2 2008, 03&#58;50 PM:name=adctvmonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adctvmonkey &#064; May 2 2008, 03&#58;50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=970933"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The newsletter section of City Center at Oyster Point online has been updated with very interesting news for future office space totaling 500,000 sq feet. The last tidbit tells of an 18-story corporate tower and adjoining mid-rise building called "Metropolitan Place" intended to house a major headquarters or company of some sort - they call it the "capstone" development of City Center.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.citycenteratoysterpoint.com/newsletter/index.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_citycenteratoysterpoint_com');">Updated news of future office space @ City Center</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Lol, they stole our building. This tower looks suspiciously like the block 11 tower slated to go up in Town Center.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.citycenteratoysterpoint.com/newsletter/images/The%20Metropolitan.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/guynvb/Virginia%20Beach%20II/tcii.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />All in all good news though, especially with the announcement from canon. I may make another thread for these as we get closer. There is a City Center thread though. I'll probably just move this there for the time being.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 05:32:16 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The newsletter section of City Center at Oyster Point online has been updated with very interesting news for future office space totaling 500,000 sq feet. The last tidbit tells of an 18-story corporate tower and adjoining mid-rise building called "Metropolitan Place" intended to house a major headquarters or company of some sort - they call it the "capstone" development of City Center.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.citycenteratoysterpoint.com/newsletter/index.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_citycenteratoysterpoint_com');">Updated news of future office space @ City Center</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 14:50:54 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Off-Topic Talk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/web-site-aims-serve-portal-regional-entertainment-events'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Area entertainment website</a><br /><br />This could be helpful.........<br /><br /><a href='http://your757.com'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/your757_com');">your 757</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 08:25:56 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Williamsburg Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/longtime-retail-complex-williamsburg-pottery-sale'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Pottery Factory for sale</a><br /><br />It was only a matter of time.............]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 08:19:15 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Suffolk Development news</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[construction has begun on two new projects in Harbourview.  First is the Harris Teeter anchored expansion of Harbourview Center, The Marketplace @ Harbour View:<br /><br /><a href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/post-a5076-Marketplace.jpg'>http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/post-a5076-Marketplace.jpg</a><br /><br />Second project turning dirt is a new Hilton Garden Inn on 3.5 acres on the west side of Harbour View Boulevard, just north of The Marketplace.  I know the owner of the new Courtyard and Townplace Suites less than a mile away, at the far north end of Harbour View felt like, soon after opening, that he had built them too small.<br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:35:39 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a different story about support shown for a wider HRBT in the Daily Press, the online commentators seem overwhelmingly in support of public transit of some form rather than just expanding roads.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/dp-local_kainepoll_0501may01,0,255467.story'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dailypress_com');">Here's the story</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:30:05 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/canon-announces-expansion-peninsula-adding-1000-jobs'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Canon adding 1000 jobs</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:14:03 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Tornado Hits Suffolk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=969075:date=Apr 28 2008, 11&#58;28 PM:name=lammius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lammius &#064; Apr 28 2008, 11&#58;28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=969075"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The good news appears to be that despite the high number of injuries, no deaths have been reported!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />The media was spectacular, absolutely spectacular, at getting the word out early. This probably played a large part in the lack of official deaths. Particularly wvec, who actually issued a warning for Suffolk due to a radar indication before the National Weather Service issued one. I had the radio on too (AM)  and the Emergency Alert System was going off about every 5-10 min. There is a lot about the local media that gets on my nerves but this is one thing that they did right, and they should be commended for the job done today.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:36:44 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow I just saw this on NBC 4 in New York.  The good news appears to be that despite the high number of injuries, no deaths have been reported!  I have some cousins who attend Nansemond-Suffolk Academy.  I'll be watching HR news sources closely as the story continues to unfold.  Best wishes to everyone in the areas affected!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:28:54 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Tornado Hits Suffolk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[At about 4:30, I looked out the window of my classroom in Batten Arts and Letters at ODU, and saw what appeared to be a tornado traveling up the river toward the Naval Base.  I have been fooled by deceiving dark clouds before, and knew it couldn't possibly be an actual tornado, so I said jokingly, "Hey look a tornado!" I was completely oblivious that there was any severe weather passing through as it never got 'bad' at school. Looking back, I was probably looking at my first tornado, or at least my first water spout.  Hopefully it's the last one.<br /><br />Some people lost a lot today... it's especially a bad time for this to happen with so many people on the edge, financially. Hope there aren't any more casualties... <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:04:18 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was an incredibly strong tornado for Virginia.<br /><br />My thoughts and prayers to the affected families.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:11:02 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=968961:date=Apr 28 2008, 08&#58;36 PM:name=cpeakesqr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpeakesqr &#064; Apr 28 2008, 08&#58;36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=968961"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I can't believe a tornado hit Driver, basically a hop, skip, and jump from my front door.  I have fond memories there, and my cousin lives right in downtown Driver... I hope it didn't do too much damage. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />Unfortunately, the damage has been considerable from what the media is saying. It's even making the national news (just saw it on MSNBC not to long ago). They were saying on channel 13 that this may be only the fourth F4 Tornado to hit Virginia. It was a pretty strong storm. It's very unusual for us to get storms this strong. I don't know whats going on this year, but it seems like we've dealt with more tornados (sp?) than usual this spring.<br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/least-200-injured-tornado-suffolk'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">At least 200 injured</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:43:47 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can't believe a tornado hit Driver, basically a hop, skip, and jump from my front door.  I have fond memories there, and my cousin lives right in downtown Driver... I hope it didn't do too much damage. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:36:42 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img src="http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/L_IMAGE.118eaf352b3.93.88.fa.d0.abe9139d.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.wvec.com/images/slideshow/tornado_042808fixed/images/0428081613.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />They seem to have pretty good coverage on <a href='http://www.wvec.com/'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_wvec_com');">wvec</a> right now.<br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:53:22 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me be the first to extend my thoughts and prayers to the families affected by this awful storm. The damage i've seen on tv so far looks horrendous, they took a pretty big hit down there. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> The Tornado was reported to be about a quarter mile wide and the pics of it shown on tv seem to match that description. I was scheduled to work down there today but that job was cancelled (thank God). I know we have some people on here that live near Suffolk and I hope that everyone is ok.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:37:37 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Housing/Real estate/and Economy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=957292:date=Mar 31 2008, 12&#58;23 PM:name=urbanvb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (urbanvb &#064; Mar 31 2008, 12&#58;23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=957292"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm soon to be in the market to buy a house. Not a bad time to actually buy one but at the same time I have to first sell mine and wonder how long this may take.  I've noticed a lot of homes are just sitting there for months on end. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Price it right and it will sell.<br /><br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:00:32 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Revitalizing Southeast Newport News</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to hear you guys couldn't make Cosmo work out. Ironically, if Norfolk had allowed it to go through, Cosmo would have been one of the only condo projects to see itself to completion in DT Norforlk.  Glad to hear that this is going to be affordable housing too, that is really needed in our area.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:09:46 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Revitalizing Southeast Newport News</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings from Arc Studio!  <br /><br />Many of you may remember us from the Cosmo418 project in Norfolk (<i>sorry we could not make that dream a reality</i>).  We are back and are proud to be the architects on this great project, Southeast Commerce Center.  Please check out some of the links to the articles that are out right now.  I did notice that a few of the papers made the mistake of stating that the residential will be high-end which is incorrect, it will be affordable housing.  <br /><br />Here are some of the links:<br /><br /><a href='http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_brooks_0418apr18,0,6690379.story'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dailypress_com');">http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_br...0,6690379.story</a><br /><br /><a href='http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_nnbrooks_0423apr23,0,1799405.story'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dailypress_com');">http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_nn...0,1799405.story</a><br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/former-qb-brooks-company-plans-newport-news-project'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/former-qb-...rt-news-project</a><br /><br /><a href='http://www.wvec.com/news/newportnews/stories/wvec_local_041808_nfl_newport_news.785821bf.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_wvec_com');">http://www.wvec.com/news/newportnews/stori...s.785821bf.html</a><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:51:28 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Revitalizing Southeast Newport News</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron Brooks spoke to the Southeast Community yesterday regarding his plans. A detailed story can be found on the Daily Press website with RENDERINGS INCLUDED!!<br /><br /><a href='http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_nnbrooks_0423apr23,0,1799405.story'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dailypress_com');">Southeast Commerce Park</a><br /><br />To see the renderings, go to "Related Links" and click the link with the 'photos' icon next to it. Pictures 7, 8, and 9 provide a location map and renderings of the housing and commercial mix. <br /><br />This is desperately needed in that community. What an extremely exciting event and great news for them!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:16:37 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_brooks_0418apr18,0,6690379.story'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dailypress_com');">Brooks to spend millions in southeast Newport News</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:52:35 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=959257:date=Apr 4 2008, 01&#58;34 AM:name=spiker3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spiker3 &#064; Apr 4 2008, 01&#58;34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959257"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/regional-lawmakers-support-hrbt-expansion-have-no-pay-plan'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Regional Lawmakers Support HRBT Expansion But Have No Pay Play</a><br /><br /><br /><br />After Fraim's announced support, it looks like an expanded HRBT is going to be a definite addition to the regional transportation package.  The only question is does it replace one of the six, or become an addition?<br /><br />The bigger question that's bothering me, these plans look great on paper, and i think that the third crossing and the expanded HRBT will have a definite impact, but overall, are these going to fix the current problems, simply postpone them, or be too little too late?  Without doing something like a Big Dig in Boston, i don't know that these projects are going to be a solution, i think it's playing catch-up, and by the time they're completed the problem will have grown past what they were intended to fix in the first place. Of course, first and foremost we have to find $12 billion to pay for this, but i don't have to write the laws, just have to pay for them  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Although I don't think we need a "Big Dig" here to solve the problems, we definitely could use some of the federal dollars the Big Dig received...  The area has the largest naval base, several important airfields, and either the 2nd or 3rd largest port on the East Coast, why aren't we getting the support from Washington we deserve?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:51:53 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/regional-lawmakers-support-hrbt-expansion-have-no-pay-plan'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Regional Lawmakers Support HRBT Expansion But Have No Pay Play</a><br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Regional lawmakers backed expansion of the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel on Thursday but acknowledged they have no plan to pay for it or billions of dollars worth of other transportation improvement.<br /><br />The commitment to enlarge the tunnel could be a step toward uniting fractious legislators on both sides of the Elizabeth River as they try to reach a road funding compromise, some legislators said.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />After Fraim's announced support, it looks like an expanded HRBT is going to be a definite addition to the regional transportation package.  The only question is does it replace one of the six, or become an addition?<br /><br />The bigger question that's bothering me, these plans look great on paper, and i think that the third crossing and the expanded HRBT will have a definite impact, but overall, are these going to fix the current problems, simply postpone them, or be too little too late?  Without doing something like a Big Dig in Boston, i don't know that these projects are going to be a solution, i think it's playing catch-up, and by the time they're completed the problem will have grown past what they were intended to fix in the first place. Of course, first and foremost we have to find $12 billion to pay for this, but i don't have to write the laws, just have to pay for them  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:34:15 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm soon to be in the market to buy a house. Not a bad time to actually buy one but at the same time I have to first sell mine and wonder how long this may take.  I've noticed a lot of homes are just sitting there for months on end. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:23:15 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The housing woes are just a glimpse at the greater credit bubble in our country.<br /><br />There is a trickle down effect that will negatively impact many industries.<br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/woes-begin-weigh-patrons-some-upscale-eateries-cut-back'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/woes-begin...teries-cut-back</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:59:46 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm not surprised. Our loss seems to be Chesapeake and Suffolk's gain.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:28:15 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/norfolk-mayors-support-expanded-bridgetunnel-could-end-regional-rift-over-transportation'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Mayor's Support of Expanded Bridge Tunnel Could End Regional Rift over Transportation</a><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In a concession that state lawmakers say likely will mend a regional split over transportation, Norfolk Mayor Paul Fraim has agreed to support an expanded Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel.<br />....<br />Members of the region’s legislative delegation on the Peninsula have said they would not support a transportation plan unless consideration was given to expanding the bridge-tunnel.<br /><br />State Sen. Kenneth Stolle, R-Virginia Beach, called Fraim’s shift a “significant development that addresses the concerns of legislators on the Peninsula. Realistically, their concerns had to be addressed.”<br /><br />The expansion would add one lane to each side of Interstate-64 and a two-lane tunnel, which connects Norfolk and Hampton.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />This is a great revelation, hopefully begins steps in the General Assembly to fix the transportation problem. Adding an expanded tunnel and lane in each direction, in addition (key) to the third crossing, will do much more to help the traffic situation across both tunnels.  It's years away, but this is a good day and hopefully proves to be a catalyst.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:05:21 -0500</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It <i>could</i> because of the military however it wouldn't surprise me if not entirely. The city has been somewhat stagnant (and maybe even losing population) the last few years.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:02:19 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Latest Census Data Released</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=955948:date=Mar 27 2008, 05&#58;41 PM:name=johnhowell)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnhowell &#064; Mar 27 2008, 05&#58;41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=955948"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href='http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/tables/CO-EST2007-01-51.xls'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_census_gov');">http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/tabl...T2007-01-51.xls</a><br /><br />It's a bit surprising to see Virginia Beach lose about 5,000 people from 2004 to 2007.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Would this be military-related?  I've seen similar drops in some other cities with big military populations...<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:09:35 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Latest Census Data Released</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/tables/CO-EST2007-01-51.xls'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_census_gov');">http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/tabl...T2007-01-51.xls</a><br /><br />It's a bit surprising to see Virginia Beach lose about 5,000 people from 2004 to 2007.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:41:55 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Newport News Navy housing progress.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are more renderings of this project.  The larger buildings look nice, but the smaller ones in the foreground of the last pic I'm not so sure about.  They look like typical suburban condos... <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://homeporthr.com/homeporthamptonroads/images/photos/0450ph01.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://homeporthr.com/homeporthamptonroads/images/photos/0450ph02.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://homeporthr.com/homeporthamptonroads/images/photos/0450ph03.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:37:57 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Housing/Real estate/and Economy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=950923:date=Mar 17 2008, 08&#58;25 PM:name=Telmnstr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Telmnstr &#064; Mar 17 2008, 08&#58;25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=950923"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, looks like things are going down the toilet like I predicted. <br /><br />Anyways, here is a good report on why we are no where near through the housing downturn. The realtors and talking heads that say it will bounce back in a few months have objectives other than honesty.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.blownmortgage.com/files/presentation3-2008.pdf'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_blownmortgage_com');">http://www.blownmortgage.com/files/presentation3-2008.pdf</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Funny, I thought the topic here was "Hampton Roads Housing" -- there isn't a single reference to HR anywhere in these 75 pages (and if you can explain what a "M5 Tranche of the ABFC 2006-OPT2 Trust" is, and how it effects housing prices here, ...........)<br /><br />There is a great line from Shakespeare which gave us the title of a Faulker book that comes to mind.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:46:38 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Housing/Real estate/and Economy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, looks like things are going down the toilet like I predicted. <br /><br />Anyways, here is a good report on why we are no where near through the housing downturn. The realtors and talking heads that say it will bounce back in a few months have objectives other than honesty.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.blownmortgage.com/files/presentation3-2008.pdf'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_blownmortgage_com');">http://www.blownmortgage.com/files/presentation3-2008.pdf</a><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:25:02 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Portsmouth development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the Super Walmart off Frederick Blvd today and noticed a fairly large new apartment complex across the old Norcom HS lot.  I looked on the internet and am guessing that these are the Crescent Place Apartments.  It looks like a great improvement over the run down housing that was over in that area.  Midtown has definitely made a lot of improvent in the last few years and it looks to continue with the Gateway project mentioned above.<br /><br /><img src="http://info.rentnet.com/property/38/704838/photo/704838.p01.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:59:38 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was over in Hampton today in the Enterprise Parkway office park, and noticed that the HU Proton Therapy Institute building is coming along nicely.  It is right across the street from the old Gateway factory.  Part I didn't realize is that Armada Hoffler is the developer.  Two renderings are on their <a href='http://www.armadahoffler.com/portfolio_current.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_armadahoffler_com');">website</a>.  It will be a great addition to the community when completed.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.armadahoffler.com/images/portfolio/portfolio_hup_1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://www.armadahoffler.com/images/portfolio/portfolio_hup_2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:42:01 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Portsmouth development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<b>Ocean Marine sale stalls</b><br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The sale of Ocean Marine Yacht Center in Portsmouth is sunk unless a Connecticut investment group can raise $10 million within 25 days. <br /><br />James River Ventures, a New England investment consortium led by John Johnson, proposed last October to buy the 19.5-acre yacht repair center and 122-slip marina from Norfolk ship repairer Marine Hydraulics International Inc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><a href='http://www.insidebiz.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=5DA67FAACE704EC3B805781227D2010D'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_insidebiz_com');">link</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:36:10 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Portsmouth development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=943535:date=Mar 3 2008, 11&#58;52 PM:name=metalman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (metalman &#064; Mar 3 2008, 11&#58;52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=943535"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/firm-proposes-deal-portsmouth-build-courthouse'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/firm-propo...uild-courthouse</a><br /><br />Firm proposes deal to build Portsmouth courthouse and other developments including 6-star hotel on oceanfront, and McArther Center style mall in Victory Crossing.<br /><br />Kinda sounds like another South Korean story that Virginia Beach had.  But, good luck to them.   <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" />  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/ermm.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ermm:" border="0" alt="ermm.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />The fall through of the South Korean deal was largely the fault of Va. Beach. There actually was some confirmation to the legitimacy of Sunrise, the differences were largely cultural. We'll never know if they were truly legit or not because we never got to the point that we could fully vet that company, Dave Hansen made sure of that. This seems like it has a little less legitimacy than the last deal, but again, we'll see. Portsmouth should vet them just like anyone else. What they should not do is be completely dismissive.<br /><br />BTW, there is only one 6-star hotel in the world. It is the Armani Hotel being built as part of the Burj Dubai. So...ummm...yeah, don't think that ones happening. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Doesn't mean some of the other components can't work though.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:49:47 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Portsmouth development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/firm-proposes-deal-portsmouth-build-courthouse'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">http://hamptonroads.com/2008/03/firm-propo...uild-courthouse</a><br /><br />Firm proposes deal to build Portsmouth courthouse and other developments including 6-star hotel on oceanfront, and McArther Center style mall in Victory Crossing.<br /><br />Kinda sounds like another South Korean story that Virginia Beach had.  But, good luck to them.   <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" /> <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/ermm.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ermm:" border="0" alt="ermm.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:52:45 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Is Urbanism the New American Dream?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942917:date=Mar 2 2008, 09&#58;52 PM:name=Telmnstr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Telmnstr &#064; Mar 2 2008, 09&#58;52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942917"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And I'd really like a BMW M3. Not a convertible, that is a air head realtor ride.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I know a woman, manages a private enterprise here with 2,200 employees -- has her masters in her professional field, and drives a BMW convertable.  Definitely not an air head, and definitely not a realtor.<br /><br />That is only one of many questionable opinions in there -- like the one comparing the wisdom of leasing a depreciating asset like a car (my father told me, "if it flies, floats, or f****, rent it don't own it"), to leasing a long term appreciating asset like a house.  Or the wisdom of coveting an expensive depreciating asset that, by your own admission, has little utility in your circumstance.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:06:54 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Is Urbanism the New American Dream?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can't compare today to days of old. People are more productive, and business expects more from each member of it's workforce. There are more products, and America depends on this consumerism to drive the economy.<br /><br />Sure our energy consumption is selfish, and sure there are problems in the near future.<br /><br />But if you expect many Americans to give up their cars and ride a bus to work, I don't see it. Many people wear their cars as their status symbols, to try to show what class they are in. It would be my guess this is more of a girl thing than a guy thing. They all want the most expensive cars possible, or perhaps the big SUVs. That constant consumer competition, to claw to the top of the pile of neighbors to be on top as the most affluent. Even if it's all fueled by debt, and a lease (renting houses is for loosers, but renting cars is okay?). So to ask the materialistic people of our society to give up their cars is going to be a challenge. <br /><br />Once fuel gets really expensive, perhaps people will forgo eating so they can show who has the money -- aka the ability to drive their own car.<br /><br />FWIW, I most often walk to work. <br /><br />FWIW#2, I LOVE MY CAR. And I'd really like a BMW M3. Not a convertible, that is a air head realtor ride. And I'm willing to go for an older one to save money. I like to drive fast (but not like a jerk, I'm generally always watching out for the other people because I don't trust them to be intelligent). And I like my music LOUD AS HELL.  <br /><br />The only downside is, to generally get a garage or two, you gotta live in the suburbs or be baller. And garages are a must to keep your whip pristine.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:52:12 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Transportation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942260:date=Feb 29 2008, 10&#58;00 PM:name=JPN0731)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JPN0731 &#064; Feb 29 2008, 10&#58;00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942260"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh wow I think the sky just fell!  Or was that the US economy?  Anyway, now we're all going to die because the gridlock is going to be so bad that we won't ever be able to get to the store and buy food now!  And think of all the gridlocked ambulances!  OMG! People may actually get out of their cars and walk somewhere! <br /><br />Seriously, what difference will it make if they build the roads in one big batch or if it takes them a million years?  I have driven in LA, NYC, San Fran, Seattle and DC.  All of them have traffic that is worse than our worst nightmare scenarios.  All of them have much more dynamic economies than us.  Traffic here is awful in a few places and I have not noticed that it has gotten worse or better over the years to be honest.  It gets worse from Memorial day to Labor Day.  So throw up tolls that are low for commuters ($1-2) and $3-5 for a one-time pop.  Cancel the third crossing and make an extra set of reversing tubes at the HRBT/MMBT and put that tunnel linking the two and charge some toll for that.  Yeah everyone hates tolls, but what options do we have?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Traffic has certainly gotten worse, especially at the tunnels and bottle necks in the area. Add in the construction at Hampton (thankfully over now) and Battlefield with the dozen drawbridges, too-narrow lanes (264) and others....yeah traffic sucks. LA, NYC, San Fran, Seattle and DC, yes all have traffic. We'll never do away with traffic obviously. But one of the largest knocks on the cul-de-sac of the east coast is the amount of traffic with no cure or end in site. DC is constantly updating and working towards relief. Boston funded the largest traffic construction project in history. San Fran re-routed and destroyed an interstate smoothly rerouting. What have we done? Exactly like rus said, it should have been thought of 20 years ago.<br /><br />As far as the projects to use, the third crossing is the one project that will never go away. At first i was an opponent and skeptic, but now i understand that project would do more for this area than anything else. A interstate/bridge system essentially devoted to port traffic (not exclusively but close) would remove tractor trailers from the downtown, midtown and HRBT. You don't think that would speed things up exponetially? Reversing tubes isn't a bad idea but it just delays a few years, instead of a longterm fix, or help.<br /><br />rus, i disagree, i think something at this point is better than nothing. I'm tired of losing two hours of my day to traffic because i bought a house in Portsmouth. I want the leaders that we elected to put together something, anything towards the single biggest problem affecting this area. Was the TA perfect? Of course not.  But you bet your butt i'd gladly pay an extra $1 per tank of gas, $3 every year on registration, etc. to get to and from faster. It's going to take compromise, sacrifice, and guts. I think the GA put together a great combination of the three. I understand where the courts are coming from, even if i personally disagree. But something's got to be done (i'm sure Gov Kaine and the GA realize this)<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:01:35 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh wow I think the sky just fell!  Or was that the US economy?  Anyway, now we're all going to die because the gridlock is going to be so bad that we won't ever be able to get to the store and buy food now!  And think of all the gridlocked ambulances!  OMG! People may actually get out of their cars and walk somewhere! <br /><br />Seriously, what difference will it make if they build the roads in one big batch or if it takes them a million years?  I have driven in LA, NYC, San Fran, Seattle and DC.  All of them have traffic that is worse than our worst nightmare scenarios.  All of them have much more dynamic economies than us.  Traffic here is awful in a few places and I have not noticed that it has gotten worse or better over the years to be honest.  It gets worse from Memorial day to Labor Day.  So throw up tolls that are low for commuters ($1-2) and $3-5 for a one-time pop.  Cancel the third crossing and make an extra set of reversing tubes at the HRBT/MMBT and put that tunnel linking the two and charge some toll for that.  Yeah everyone hates tolls, but what options do we have?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:00:23 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942235:date=Feb 29 2008, 08&#58;44 PM:name=spiker3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spiker3 &#064; Feb 29 2008, 08&#58;44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942235"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the $30 - 40+ billion price tag is the hold up, not western VA.  There's just too many projects needed and not enough money, and not enough time.  It's going to take getting creative to fix it, which is what this plan was.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />The rural portions of VA are very much the hold out. Their representatives have indicated quite explicitly that they do not want their tax dollars paying for our roads. Hell, for what it's worth, we might as well just secede  from the state. Obviously no one in Virginia believes in the "we're all in this together" mantra. <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:15:48 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don't like the logic that something is better than nothing. We need to look at this and not rush into it. This should have been looked at 20 years ago but we are here now. We need to do this smart since this will be apart of the region from now on. We need to have people that will answer to the people for mistakes and ill decisions. We don't need people that are going to do things that the people really don't want.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:03 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942219:date=Feb 29 2008, 08&#58;18 PM:name=cpeakesqr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpeakesqr &#064; Feb 29 2008, 08&#58;18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942219"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was under the impression that western Virginians were the one's holding up a statewide transportation plan, because they really don't care about or understand the importance of both N. Virginia's and HR's quality of transportation.  If this is true, what hope is there?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />I think the $30 - 40+ billion price tag is the hold up, not western VA.  There's just too many projects needed and not enough money, and not enough time.  It's going to take getting creative to fix it, which is what this plan was.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:44:33 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if that is the case why should tax dollars out of this region go for their farms and fixing their roads. This is for the better of the state not just our region. Our taxes generated from this area doesn't stay in the region but is distributed throughout the state. Sometimes it needs to come back to the region.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:23:48 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942195:date=Feb 29 2008, 07&#58;02 PM:name=rusthebuss)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rusthebuss &#064; Feb 29 2008, 07&#58;02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942195"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't like a authority that really answers to no one. Thats pretty scary. Just because the city Mayor is elected to that office doesn't mean he is affected on the authority board. They need people to be elected by the public to be put in those chairs with time limits on each chair so if we get idiots we can move beyond them. Only makes sense to do it like that<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />I wonder if it would it be possible to have the regions vote for the members of this board...?  That would be a mess too without knowing whether or not people running for a seat were actually qualified, and wanted what's best for the region...  It would still tax people though, so it would be unconstitutional.  <br /><br />I was under the impression that western Virginians were the one's holding up a statewide transportation plan, because they really don't care about or understand the importance of both N. Virginia's and HR's quality of transportation.  If this is true, what hope is there?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:18:34 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don't like a authority that really answers to no one. Thats pretty scary. Just because the city Mayor is elected to that office doesn't mean he is affected on the authority board. They need people to be elected by the public to be put in those chairs with time limits on each chair so if we get idiots we can move beyond them. Only makes sense to do it like that]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:03 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is, 15 years from now when business and industry are leaving, and ports are losing customers and revenue because companies can't move their goods around, the same people crying about the authority will be the first ones asking for heads to roll because the state "didn't do enough". Anyone want to bet against me on this one? <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:11:06 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess the only way to go about it will be to have state-wide plans...</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:48 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=942071:date=Feb 29 2008, 03&#58;29 PM:name=lil&#045;bear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lil&#045;bear &#064; Feb 29 2008, 03&#58;29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=942071"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, what about tweaking it so included areas vote for the Trasportation Authority Commissioner.<br />Would that suffice?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />The court's issue was that for the state assembly to pass taxation power to someone was unconstitutional. How would included areas who voted against the authority vote for something they don't want? And as far as an elected leader, Fraim is an elected mayor, heads the board, so no go there either.<br /><br />I'm just baffled by the overwhelming hatred towards this. Yes, it's not perfect, but it beats nothing, which is what we're left with now. The number of cars on the road is only going to go up, even with light rail, and traffic is only going to get worse and worse. Instead of paying pennies and dollars extra a year for the benefit of the area, people want to complain and moan because taxation without representation (which is factually untrue, we elected the Assembly, they're the ones originating the tax) would rather sit in traffic and watch the region stagnate like vdogg said. Nuclear is exactly right. HR is screwed. Anyone else know where we can find $20 billion?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:44:25 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, what about tweaking it so included areas vote for the Trasportation Authority Commissioner.<br />Would that suffice?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:29:51 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured this would happen..no taxation without representation is a pretty basic premise. State leadership just needs to be creative in making things happen without violating the state constitution. I wonder if they could simply include one elected leader for each of the two regions that oversees these authorities to skirt the unconstitutional question.</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:36:37 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What! Are you freaking kidding me? This state is so backwards. Our region is going to stagnate if we don't come up with a transportation plan.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:59:02 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will kill transportation plans!!!<br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/02/court-rules-northern-va-transportation-authority-unconstitutional'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Court strikes down Transportation Authorities</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:06:27 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Is Urbanism the New American Dream?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today's VP editorial page has a column by Donald Luzzatto, one of their op-ed writers, titled <a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/02/driven-exhaustion'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Driven to exhaustion</a>.  You can read it yourself, but he, without knowing it, endorses Leinberger's theory:<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I grew up in an old neighborhood inside the Capital Beltway; you could walk to the ball fields, to the candy store, to the principal's office. You could go from Sunday to Sunday before you'd set foot in a car, and only because nobody wanted to walk to church in those clothes. They itched.  From our current house, you can walk safely no place at all.  The kids' school is miles away, down a divided highway and a couple of exits. Work is miles in the other direction, through a tunnel. Church is miles in still another direction, down roads with no sidewalks.  Even when we lived in downtown Suffolk, and had the option of walking, we didn't. I walked once to the office, when Hurricane Isabel made it impossible to drive. We walked once to a restaurant, when our anniversary fell on a warmish February night. Otherwise, like most Americans, we drive everywhere we need to go, both as a choice and as a habit. It seems safer, maybe. It seems faster. <br /><br />Even when it's neither.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:32:27 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Is Urbanism the New American Dream?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=939054:date=Feb 24 2008, 01&#58;36 PM:name=urbanvb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (urbanvb &#064; Feb 24 2008, 01&#58;36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=939054"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My thoughts on urbanism - I do think a lot of people are tired of sitting in traffic and tired of having to drive everywhere but consequently the suburbs are ever enlarging, interstates and roads are ever-more choked with traffic as folks look for the perfect house with a yard. I can't blame them in some ways having wanting that but the cost for infrastructure is enormous. One downside to urbanism I have noticed is the increase in traffic it brings with it. Just to compare personally, I live near Town Center and while it is awesome to see it all going up I have noticed quite an uptick in the traffic up and around the center, which is to be expected I guess. The one thing I enjoy about living in a sub-urban area is that the Pembroke area has a sense of place where the other suburban areas nearly have none. Housing in the area has really gone up which mirrors anywhere in an urban type area. It does cost more to live in and around urban amenities.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Well the increase of traffic around the town center has less to do with the fact that it is an urban area and more to do with the fact that they only provided one option to get in and out of the town center.  Plus, at the current point, the housing in the town center is still very limited, but that is to be expected, it is still a young downtown.<br /><br />As for light rail and streetcars, I was going to reference a history book that goes into detail about this, but I can't find it at the moment.  I will let you know what it is later, but it goes in great detail on how we got to where we are now.  As for all the beotching we all do about the lost of streetcars and the need to go back, the streetcars back then were all privately owned, thus cities did not step in when the private automotive companies started to out do them.  Nowadays, we have public funded streetcars and light rail, so the outlook on that is much different.  I will try to find that book for you guys, if you are a nerd in the history of cities and urban areas, this is a great book to read.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:56:14 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I'm not mistaken, originally suburbs were served by light rail types of trains. But then the US auto manufacturers bought them up and destroyed them to push their sales.<br /><br />I don't really know what the perfect transportation solution is.<br /><br />While we have more people living in suburbs, business is changing. We don't really need all of the retail stores that exist due to the internet. We really don't need everyone to go to work, many could telecommute, but this hasn't caught on in backwoods places like Hampton Roads (there are a good number of people I know who telecommute to companies not located here, it's a good way to get to the 6 figures mark).<br /><br />I think elevated maglev lines going everywhere would be one solution.<br /><br />I have to admit though, in DC over the weekend (well two weekends ago I guess).... it took about the same amount of time to go 1 metro stop on the metro as it just took me to go from the Ocean Front (Flipper McCoy's) to downtown Norfolk.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:56:24 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thoughts on urbanism - I do think a lot of people are tired of sitting in traffic and tired of having to drive everywhere but consequently the suburbs are ever enlarging, interstates and roads are ever-more choked with traffic as folks look for the perfect house with a yard. I can't blame them in some ways having wanting that but the cost for infrastructure is enormous. One downside to urbanism I have noticed is the increase in traffic it brings with it. Just to compare personally, I live near Town Center and while it is awesome to see it all going up I have noticed quite an uptick in the traffic up and around the center, which is to be expected I guess. The one thing I enjoy about living in a sub-urban area is that the Pembroke area has a sense of place where the other suburban areas nearly have none. Housing in the area has really gone up which mirrors anywhere in an urban type area. It does cost more to live in and around urban amenities.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:36:28 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday's Dallas Morning News featured a report by a land use strategist, Christopher B. Leinberger, who praised Dallas as a leader in the development of walkable urban centers.  The article is here:  <a href='http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/022308dnbuswalkable.1b0e4071.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_dallasnews_com');">Dallas a model for 'walkable' urban centers</a>.     A great quote from the article:<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Dallas already has some of the key drivers — a mass transit system— in place to create walkable urban centers, Leinberger said. Next, the city must focus on adding housing, including affordable housing, and then retail and offices will follow, he said.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />But that led me to look at more of Leinberger's work, including this press release:  <a href='http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/071204/netu046.html?.v=32'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/biz_yahoo_com');">Is Urbanism the New American Dream?</a>.  One interesting quote:<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Option of Urbanism shows how the American Dream, characterized by a sub-urban lifestyle, is shifting, but outdated federal policies, local zoning laws, financial institutions' formulas and lack of experience by real estate developers still encourage low-density, car-dependent suburban development. The book presents a compelling case for a new national approach and for America's financial and real estate industries to respond to demand for walkable urbanism across the country.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />What the critics of HRT's Light Rail fail to see, is how safe, efficient and comfortable mass transit is the backbone for these walkable urban centers.  Town Center is obviously one -- downtown could be another.  The EVMS area could be another, if more housing is built in Fort Norfolk.  This is the vision we need to insist upon in HR -- not ever more sprawl.  Interested in how others see this.<br /><br />Leinberger's web site is here: <a href='http://www.islandpress.org/leinberger/index.html'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_islandpress_org');">The Option of Urbanism </a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:16:56 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Chesapeake Crescent initiative</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=937802:date=Feb 21 2008, 11&#58;32 AM:name=hoobo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoobo &#064; Feb 21 2008, 11&#58;32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=937802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Where does it say that no HR reps attended the announcement?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Participating in its public debut will be House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, US Congressman Tom Davis of Virginia, Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, and, DC Mayor Adrian Fenty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />The point was, if the founders, DC residents all, wanted to be as inclusive as they seem to think they are, and reflect the entire region, then they could have made sure House members from HR as well as from NoVa, DC and Maryland were in attendance.  Note they didn't invite Eleanor Holmes Norton, yet she was there.<br /><br />More info available at <a href='http://www.thechesapeakecrescent.com/CM/ContentManagement.aspx?ModuleID=9'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_thechesapeakecrescent_com');">The Chesapeake Crescent</a><br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:56:31 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=928322:date=Feb 1 2008, 06&#58;00 AM:name=scm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scm &#064; Feb 1 2008, 06&#58;00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=928322"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It will be interesting to see what Hampton Roads involvement in this consists of.  There were <b>NO</b> HR representatives at the announcement.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Where does it say that no HR reps attended the announcement?  The Post mentioned only the reps serving its primary circulation area: one each from NoVa, DC, and Suburban Maryland.  I'm not sure why the DC rep was mentioned but Davis and Hoyer are heavy hitters on the Hill especially Hoyer since he is House Majority Leader.  No one from Richmond, Baltimore, or HR were present.  These areas were represented by the two governors.  This is a modest initiative; no need for 15 representatives.  <br /><br />No doubt that DC will be the center of this initiative, but it is designed to encompass the entire crescent.<br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:32:29 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Roads Off-Topic Talk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/02/world-fashion-stage-local-companies-find-they-fit'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Local companies on world fashion stage</a><br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hampton Roads is changing. You can see it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />An interesting story about HR's growing fashion industry.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:58:06 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>25-story tower announced for Portsmouth waterfront</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Build, Portsmouth, build.  The rendering makes project look massive.  25 stories?  This is far better than the HI there now.  A great complement to Norfolk.  Young people would flock to live on waterfront with a view of downtown.  Walking distance from Biergarden, restaurants, ferry landing, museums, etc. etc.  Wow!<br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/02/portsmouth-group-set-approve-waterside-development'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Old Towne Project</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:55:04 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>25-story tower announced for Portsmouth waterfront</title>
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		<description>Happy to see this project moving forward. Hopefully this will act as a catalyst for more downtown growth in P-Town</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:38:35 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>25-story tower announced for Portsmouth waterfront</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=929458:date=Feb 4 2008, 01&#58;33 AM:name=vaceltic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vaceltic &#064; Feb 4 2008, 01&#58;33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=929458"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What's up with this project? This thread has been dead a while....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />Ask and you shall receive.<br /><br /><a href='http://hamptonroads.com/2008/02/portsmouth-lands-development-deal-waterside-land'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/hamptonroads_com');">Portsmouth waterfront deal a go</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:36:18 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=934024:date=Feb 13 2008, 08&#58;14 AM:name=vtfan18)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vtfan18 &#064; Feb 13 2008, 08&#58;14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=934024"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh...I see. That's why you wear ties to footbal games.  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Georgia and Ole Miss students do it too.  One perk about dressing up:  girls in sundresses.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:10:06 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=934024:date=Feb 13 2008, 11&#58;14 AM:name=vtfan18)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vtfan18 &#064; Feb 13 2008, 11&#58;14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=934024"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh...I see. That's why you wear ties to footbal games.  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />That's a long running tradition in ACC and SEC sports. Many of the old timers at VT still wear their maroon jacket and ties to games.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:23:32 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930189:date=Feb 5 2008, 01&#58;51 PM:name=erdogs)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (erdogs &#064; Feb 5 2008, 01&#58;51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930189"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I guess if we drink Zima, then the Hokies must drink OE 40's. We smoke Cuban cigars while the Hokies smoke repacked blunts. We eat surf-n-turf and Hokies eat pot pies. We go on vacation to France, Hokies just go back to the farm. I see where Cowherd is going with this.  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/silly.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":silly:" border="0" alt="silly.png" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br /><br />Oh...I see. That's why you wear ties to footbal games.  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:14:59 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930641:date=Feb 6 2008, 11&#58;47 AM:name=scm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scm &#064; Feb 6 2008, 11&#58;47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930641"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Little more adventurous menu than an Olive Garden -- especially in the non-pasta dishes. Probably half way between OG and Carrabba's. I always had the impression that most everything in there, like at OG and Panera, was prepared offsite in a commissary. Carrabba's is amazing in the fact that they prepare everything, including the salad dressings, on site. Why they aren't open for lunch -- prepping.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Oh ok...I heard from somebody else that they were good and a little better than OG but not up there with Carrabbas and Romano's Macaroni Grill.  I think the reason why they wasn't profitable was due to their location because they wasn't directly on Mercury Blvd like Cracker Barrel.  I work near that area and every time I go by Cracker Barrel and Lone Star...I always see cars in the parking lot.  Sometimes I saw cars at Carino's and Texas Steakhouse.  I also think Carino's didn't market themselves well within the region which is a major reason, being that they were exclusive to the HR region.  People from other cities besides Hampton may didn't know about the restaurant.  I think the property owner will find a good tenant due to the other businesses and hotels that are near the location.  <br /><br />Also...do anybody know of anything that will be in the new Peninsula Town Center besides JCPenney and Macy's?  I heard it is going to be really nice with some upscale stores.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:28:07 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=932103:date=Feb 8 2008, 08&#58;21 PM:name=vdogg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vdogg &#064; Feb 8 2008, 08&#58;21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=932103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are they selling tickets or can you just show up? That's 5:30pm correct?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />It's open to the public, and yes at 5:30pm.  It's on pilotonline, and I'm sure you can find it on BarackObama.com]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:06:10 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=932005:date=Feb 8 2008, 03&#58;35 PM:name=cpeakesqr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpeakesqr &#064; Feb 8 2008, 03&#58;35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=932005"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Obama will be at the VB convention center on Sunday... doors open at 5:30.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Are they selling tickets or can you just show up? That's 5:30pm correct?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:21:05 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description>Obama will be at the VB convention center on Sunday... doors open at 5:30.</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:35:29 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hillary will be at my alma mater, Patrick Henry High School in Roanoke, Sunday and then Obama will be somewhere in Roanoke Monday (probably the Roanoke Civic Center).<br /> I've also heard about a Clinton appearance in Manassas and Richmond, and an Obama rally in VA Beach.  I'm sure both candidates will be appearing at least once in Hampton Roads.<br /><br />I wouldn't be suprised if both of them made at least 7 appearances each in VA over the next 3 days.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:37:29 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=931556:date=Feb 7 2008, 07&#58;56 PM:name=rusthebuss)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rusthebuss &#064; Feb 7 2008, 07&#58;56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=931556"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They are saying he is coming to Norfolk now<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />WaPo said yesterday that Obama will be in the state Sunday and Monday, focused on four areas including Tidewater.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:06:43 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=931359:date=Feb 7 2008, 02&#58;24 PM:name=spiker3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spiker3 &#064; Feb 7 2008, 02&#58;24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=931359"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anyone have any knowledge of local visits by candidates?  I heard about trying to get John McCain to the Crowne Plaza on Bonney in Va Beach but that's all so far.  Anyone know anything else?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />They are saying he is coming to Norfolk now]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:56:54 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've been checking the Obama site, and my emails but haven't seen anything local from him.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:27:13 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Coffee House</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone have any knowledge of local visits by candidates?  I heard about trying to get John McCain to the Crowne Plaza on Bonney in Va Beach but that's all so far.  Anyone know anything else?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:24:18 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930604:date=Feb 6 2008, 09&#58;10 AM:name=mike_25andj)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mike_25andj &#064; Feb 6 2008, 09&#58;10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930604"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd say it was more like an Olive Garden than a Panera Bread.  They did a good lunch business.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />Little more adventurous menu than an Olive Garden -- especially in the non-pasta dishes.  Probably half way between OG and Carrabba's.  I always had the impression that most everything in there, like at OG and Panera, was prepared offsite in a commissary.  Carrabba's is amazing in the fact that they prepare everything, including the salad dressings, on site.  Why they aren't open for lunch -- prepping.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:47:35 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Hampton Development</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930574:date=Feb 6 2008, 08&#58;43 AM:name=scm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scm &#064; Feb 6 2008, 08&#58;43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930574"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->From Inside Business:<br /><br /><br />Yea, it was pretty good -- a chain, probably on an equal with Panera Bread.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />I'd say it was more like an Olive Garden than a Panera Bread.  They did a good lunch business.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:10:52 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930449:date=Feb 5 2008, 08&#58;34 PM:name=Weaver24)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Weaver24 &#064; Feb 5 2008, 08&#58;34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930449"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I rode past Power Plant Pkwy today and noticed Johnny Carino's was closed.  What happened and do anyone know if anything is coming in that space?  I never ate there...was it good?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />From Inside Business:<br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Power Plant loses restaurant<br /><br />Raleigh-based Apple Gold Group, which operates Applebee’s and Johnny Carino’s franchises, closed the Johnny Carino’s Country Italian Restaurant at the Power Plan in Hampton last week. The Daily Press reported a note on the restaurant’s door said it wasn’t profitable. It was the only location in Hampton Roads.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />Yea, it was pretty good -- a chain, probably on an equal with Panera Bread.<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:43:37 -0600</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I rode past Power Plant Pkwy today and noticed Johnny Carino's was closed.  What happened and do anyone know if anything is coming in that space?  I never ate there...was it good?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:34:52 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=930103:date=Feb 5 2008, 11&#58;22 AM:name=hoobo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoobo &#064; Feb 5 2008, 11&#58;22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=930103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I dunno.  But it's been a running joke since radio sports talkshow host Colin Cowherd claimed Wahoos drink it which makes us weak and hence why our football team can't beat Tech.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />I guess if we drink Zima, then the Hokies must drink OE 40's. We smoke Cuban cigars while the Hokies smoke repacked blunts. We eat surf-n-turf and Hokies eat pot pies. We go on vacation to France, Hokies just go back to the farm. I see where Cowherd is going with this.  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/silly.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":silly:" border="0" alt="silly.png" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:51:13 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=929713:date=Feb 4 2008, 01&#58;36 PM:name=erdogs)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (erdogs &#064; Feb 4 2008, 01&#58;36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=929713"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do they still make Zima?  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />I dunno.  But it's been a running joke since radio sports talkshow host Colin Cowherd claimed Wahoos drink it which makes us weak and hence why our football team can't beat Tech.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:22:46 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>25-story tower announced for Portsmouth waterfront</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=929458:date=Feb 4 2008, 12&#58;33 AM:name=vaceltic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vaceltic &#064; Feb 4 2008, 12&#58;33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=929458"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What's up with this project? This thread has been dead a while....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br />It's not even supposed to start construction until the end of the year. There's nothing up with this project. I imagine we'll hear more once we get close to that time, we're still quite a ways away though.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:08:11 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do they still make Zima?  <img src="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/dontknow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dontknow:" border="0" alt="dontknow.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:36:04 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=928598:date=Feb 1 2008, 01&#58;21 PM:name=erdogs)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (erdogs &#064; Feb 1 2008, 01&#58;21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=928598"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you watch the film on Smalls you will see what they like about him. He plays against the toughest competition in Texas and puts up impressive numbers. I believe he was hurt last year so that could have something to do with his ranking. He also runs a 4.4 40, but is mostly a passing QB. One of the analyst for Rivals says that UVA got a real steal, which leads me to believe they like his upside potential. <br /><br />Manuel was never going to stay in-state and UVA thought they had Glennon, even going as far as not recruiting another QB. The problem with the in-state players is they were not strong academically, something UVA has had a problem with in keeping quite a few of their players eligable. Next years in-state haul will be significantly better in my opinion. They already have a verbal from Alex Awah, an in-state RB for 09. I was blown away by his film, he has every attribute you look for in a game changing RB. He can stop on a dime, change direction with ease, has GREAT vision down field and can hit that second gear in an instant. I can now see the forest for the trees.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Thanks for the correction.  Didn't realize that Smalls was a late bloomer.  Should've called my friend and hopped on the Sabre before posting my tirade on UVa fans and our need for Prozac (and Zima?).]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:05:30 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>25-story tower announced for Portsmouth waterfront</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What's up with this project? This thread has been dead a while....]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:33:50 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Christopher Newport University</title>
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		<description>I go to CNU BTW.  They just destroyed the old library/student center.</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:38:36 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Christopher Newport University</title>
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		<description>now they just need an architecture department.  they have been making some good strides at that school to make it into a full fledge university.</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:12:18 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Christopher Newport University</title>
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		<description>Wow, the library looks stunning.</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:09:56 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Virginia Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!--quoteo(post=925585:date=Jan 27 2008, 11&#58;26 AM:name=scm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scm &#064; Jan 27 2008, 11&#58;26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=925585"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, if recruiting was most of being a good coach, then you never would have seen Wake Forest, Missouri, South Florida and UConn high in the national polls in the last few years.  Average recruiting class national rank over the last 5 years?  WF - 76.3, UM - 34.2, USF - 60.2 and UConn - 84.5.  On the other hand, Charlie Weiss, the smartest man in college football, should have had better results from his #8 classes the last two years.  I do agree it is coaching, and part of that is taking the talent you have, and putting them in a system that will get the best results.  Gary Pinkel at UM is the perfect example of that -- got a spread QB, surrounded him with a few 2-3 star players (like Pittino at Louisville) that complimented that talent, and taught them how to succeed.  Rich Rodriguez jump started WV in the same way.<br /><br />Interesting analysis <a href='http://www.sundaymorningqb.com/story/2008/1/15/185354/602'  target="_blank" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outgoing/www_sundaymorningqb_com');">here</a> says that the ACC is the home of "run first and play tight defense".  I just don't think you can win BCS championships with that mentality.  It produces razor thin win margins, and top to bottom parity.  But, as VT found out when they got spanked by LSU, if you can't keep up on the scoreboard, you won't win.<br /><br />Finally, all you need to compare is the fact that the SEC championship has a ticket waiting list at the start of the season, every year -- before the teams are ever known, and this picture of this year's ACC championship:<br /><br /><div align='center'><img src="http://images.sundaymorningqb.com/images/admin/acc_championship_game_crowd_view_2007_empty_stadium_jacksonville_altel_acc_sucks_sux.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br /><br />Wow, that is a sad site!  They're moving the ACC Championship game to Tampa for two years and then to Charlotte.  I think Charlotte is were it should be (central location).  Coaching is important, but the reason those teams like Wake Forest, Missouri and South Florida began to improve is due to recruiting.  You simply cannot compete without the players, no matter how good the coach.<br /><br />BTW, good article.<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:22:37 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Durhamite</author>
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