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Carrboro's Shelton Station

DCMetroRaleigh — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:47:31 +0000

The Carrboro Board of Aldermen voted on Tuesday 1/24/2012 in support of rezoning to permit the permitting to begin for SHELTON STATION, a mixed use development for downtown Carrboro. Forward looking live and work, the development is supported by downtown businesses and local residents, and will provide 96 workforce and low income rentals, along with 24,000 square feet of retail and office space. The LEED equivalent green development will meet a list of 13 conditions imposed by the Town. Permitting should be completed this year, with occupancy likely by the end of 2013.

http://sheltonstation.info/

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Greenfire's revitalization plan for Downtown Durham

NCMike1981 — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:28:51 +0000

I love Open Durham (and the former Endangered Durham) but frankly this particular feature made my heart ache a bit:

http://www.opendurha...t-building?full

it's amazing seeing some of the shots from 50/60ish years ago which reflect how densely developed downtown used to be. I used to think that the demolition of the Washington Duke (http://www.opendurha...duke-hotel?full) in itself was one of Durham's biggest blunders but it appears as if folks got a little surface parking lot crazy over the years.....Imagine if downtown still had all of the buildings from the aerials in the 1st link.....and what bugs me the most is that most of the buildings demolished were torn down to become empty lots, "plazas" or surface parking!

*ends rant* :-)

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Ninth Street changes to come?

DCMetroRaleigh — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:56:07 +0000

wow, this looks like a huge development. I am shocked I haven't heard about it before.

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Greenfire's revitalization plan for Downtown Durham

DanRNC — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:46:02 +0000

Looks like most of the loop activity is renovation of existing space but not much in the way of new construction from scratch. The educational institution is the Art Institute-this is supposed to be some kind of housing for them. Considering DT Durham has become a tech/startup powerhouse, its amazing housing is still so limited.

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Greenfire's revitalization plan for Downtown Durham

orulz — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:38:09 +0000

Still waiting for any kind of new construction at all to happen inside the loop... or north of the railroad tracks at all, for that matter... Maybe the loop itself needs to meet its end before that can happen.

88 apartments does not seem like an especially ambitious project. Greenfire owns 2 acres at that corner. ~40 units per acre is certainly not a suburban density but it's not really impressive either. Not sure how much the "local educational institution" will take up, but if this were just apartments, at 1000 square feet per unit, (which is on the large side) that would be a FAR of 1.

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Greenfire's revitalization plan for Downtown Durham

DanRNC — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:02:42 +0000

Greenfire seems to be making some movement.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/02/02/1823976/88-unit-complex-set-for-durham.html

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Ninth Street changes to come?

DanRNC — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:39:15 +0000

This construction has just begun. A hotel was proposed but I don't know where that stands now.

http://www.liveninthstreet.com/

http://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2011/12/05/CL17078

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Urban Apartment Boom

Jones133 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:32:47 +0000

orulz, on 01 December 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:

Add another one to the list: The Gramercy, 7 stories, 209 units with 5600 sf of retail at the NW corner of Glenwood and North.

I count six major new construction projects in Glenwood South.
(1) 600 St Mary's
(2) 425 N Boylan
(3) Gramercy
(4) Apartments at West
(5) Hampton Inn
(6) Carolina Ale House

How many of these will actually make it to completion? I don't know. But to me, this seems like every bit as much of a boom as back in 2007. Only this time, they're building things for which there is actual established demand (Urban apartments) rather than things for which there is not (expensive ultra luxury condos.)

It looks like 425 Boylan (as you stated in the other thread Orulz) and 600 St Marys are both underway. Along with Hampton Inn, FMW's apartments and the ones at Cameron Village, this makes 5 active projects in the area (well I guess we could count Chik Fil-A too), 4 of which are apartments. Those plus a hotel are all adding foot traffic to the area.
I am starting to think Earth Fare in the area north of West condos perhaps hitched to something like American Apparel, both of which are semi-mainstream but have good alt-influences which is about what our downtown leans. Crazy but not too crazy...gritty but not too gritty. Faux renegade...you get the idea....

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The History of the Triangle

Jones133 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:16:50 +0000

Oakie, on 24 January 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

I'm not Mr. Brown, but from the Boylan Heights website, 805 W. South was "built in 1900 on Hillsborough Street and then moved to it’s present site in 1903/04, making it the second house in Historic Boylan Heights"... It's a great house -

http://www.boylanhei...rg/trivia1.html

I thought something was fishy...its very rare for a house to be moved 3 years after it was built, plus the Boylan Ave bridge was probably still wooden in 1903 and would not have supported it....so I checked the 1914 Sanborn map and there is nothing on this lot in 1914. It was certainly moved in (its older than the rest of the neighborhood) but it came in later....maybe a typo? The apartments all along Hillsborough Street (Cameron Ct, Grosvenor etc) were built in the 1930's and caused a lot of homes to be torn down. At least one was moved into Cameron Park when the Credit Union was built in the 70's or 80's). Perhaps this home in Boylan was moved the 1930's...? Need to dig more...

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American Tobacco Historic District

Nindec — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:18:25 +0000

Looks like Diamond View III could have a decent chunk of retail opening onto Blackwell, though I can't really tell what's happening from the renderings. This could be a much-needed step in the right direction for opening some the campus's energy onto the street grid.

I'm curious what the "future development" plans are for the lawn fronting this space and DPAC. That's a big footprint right in the middle of the campus.

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Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

ctl — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:07:50 +0000

Agreed. At the earliest stages, RTP may have had an entrepreneurial interest (before it was cool to do so) -- but this went out the door as soon as IBM agreed to move here in 1965. For the next 40 years, RTP favored large organizations. They did turn one old building on Davis Drive into a small business incubator, but otherwise they stuck to their big-organization path. And for a long time, that was highly successful: EPA, Glaxo, BW, Nortel, Cisco, etc. Without those large organizations, the Triangle as we know it today really wouldn't exist.

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Duke Medical Center

DanRNC — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:41:21 +0000

The 1st phase of this project (the Duke Cancer Institute) will be opening next month. The School of Medicine building is next with the hospital pavillion slated for a 2013 opening. The Duke North entrance on Erwin and Fulton will be relocated with this addition to be closer to Duke South.

http://construction.dukemedicine.org/projects/duke-cancer-center

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American Tobacco Historic District

DanRNC — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:05:30 +0000

Diamond View III looks like it will be started soon.

http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/news/blogpost/10646336/

http://diamondview3.com/

Oh yea, the DPAC thread should probably be incorporated with this topic since they are practically intertwined now.

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Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

DanRNC — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:47:10 +0000

RTP realizes that Durham has really become a competitor as an incubator and DT Raleigh is trying to get in the game now http://research.ncsu.edu/innovation/ as well as massive efforts in other locales including NYC to build up this sector. RTP know they are going to have to up their game now. While they have been uber successful at recruiting large companies, they haven't been so focused on startups that don't need nearly as much space as most of the current tenants.

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The History of the Triangle

Jones133 — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:20:14 +0000

Great thanks. I will now have to figure out where on Hillsborough it was moved from. Also, I am about 100% sure its the *third* oldest. Montford Hall is of course the oldest but there is a house...possibly a converted carriage house...behind Montford that is most likely antebellum. Had a conversation with some better architecture historians than myself who toured it while it was for sale and they said the building techniques were indeed antebellum. To me the window sashes, and floor boards all look just like other known antebellum homes downtown (only a dozen or so). Post civil war stuff gets victorian looking pretty quickly (though a couple still look antebellum, but Mr. Brown pegged those particular dates in the 1870's ...two in Oakwood noted much earlier in the thread)

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Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

ctl — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:12:31 +0000

Three types of undeveloped space in the park: (1) parcels whose title still rests with the RTP Foundation, (2) parcels that have been purchased fromthe RTP Foundation by an owner who hasn't built anything yet, and (3) parcels that have at least one building already but have lots of undeveloped acreage because of restrictive covenants forcing low density. Not a lot of #1 and #2, but lots of #3. There are some vacant buildings but not that many in RTP itself. Occupancy of adjacent properties that aren't formally in RTP is a different question.

One problem faced by RTP going forward is competition from Raleigh (both downtown and the Centennial Campus) and Durham (e.g. American Tobacco complex).

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Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

Green_man — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:51:28 +0000

I say let all unused parcels in RTP go to park space. Demolish vacant buildings and convert to open space. Concentrate all new building construction in downtowns of Durham and Raleigh. This would create dense urban centers that people can commute to via light rail and commuter rail, while preserving open natural space between the two cities. RTP will never be urban and even light rail lines will have limited success due to the sprawling nature. Only possibility for succes would be if 5 major corporations decide to construct campuses together as part of a master plan. Odds?

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Residence Inn Downtown

Justin6882 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:37:41 +0000

Justin6882, on 24 January 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Article in the N&O says we might get a RI at the Lafayette site. Great news!

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/24/1803651/residence-inn-eyed-for-downtown.html

Here's more detail. Looks like more than one proposal has been made.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/25/1804300/hotel-proposed-for-downtown-raleigh.html

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The History of the Triangle

Oakie — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:36:11 +0000

Jones133, on 22 January 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:

Mr Brown.
This house on South Street in Boylans Heights looks to be older than the the neighborhood itself (the 1900 date listed I know is just a sort of autofill I see all over the site, but is still older than 1907 the neighborhood date). This is of course in addition to the antebellum house (carriage house?) behind Montford Hall. The South Street house appears 1890's to me. Do you know any details? Thanks.

Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

Jones133 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:28:42 +0000

Unless they can convince some people to cleave off some of their parcels, this will be limited success. But the potential is huge if everyone cooperates and works toward the goals stated in the summary.

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Residence Inn Downtown

Jones133 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:20:37 +0000

Nice. I wonder if the City has lowered the price of the land....

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Urban Apartment Boom

Jones133 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:17:44 +0000

It reads such that I think it is just to maintain the value of the land. I suspect LNR will sell off these lots like the are marketing the one at Peace and Person.

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Residence Inn Downtown

Justin6882 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:15:47 +0000

Article in the N&O says we might get a RI at the Lafayette site. Great news!

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/24/1803651/residence-inn-eyed-for-downtown.html

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425 N Boylan

Jones133 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:15:35 +0000

I am heading that way tonight....as of Saturday nothing had been demolished. There is a low plastic, traffic-type barrier surrounding the funeral home where the apartments are planned at St Marys and Johnson.

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Research Triangle Park (RTP) & the Triangle Biotech Cluster

DanRNC — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:47:03 +0000

http://grimshaw-architects.com/project/research-triangle-park-masterplan/

As the RTP continues to evolve with its new masterplan, it will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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Urban Apartment Boom

orulz — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:02:48 +0000

There was a rezoning application for this location.

This is actually part of the Blount Street Commons development. The rezoning really only entails a minor adjustment in allowable heights and I'm not sure whether there is any concrete plan for an apartment building behind the rezoning.

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425 N Boylan

orulz — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:13:48 +0000

I haven't confirmed it myself, but some buildings where this will go have reportedly been recently demolished. I last went by here about two weeks ago and nothing had moved at that point.

Since this building is financed by a privately run pension fund, and they seemed to be interested in getting it built ASAP to hit the sweet spot in the market, I think of all the apartment projects not already started in Raleigh, this was the one that was most likely to happen.

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Urban Apartment Boom

Green_man — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:06:45 +0000

I heard somewhere about a rezoning case to allow for a 5-story (maybe 200 unit?) apartment building at the corner of Wilmington and Polk. On its own, seems like a strange place for an apartment building, but combine it with the Blount Street Commons (if they ever proceed with all phases) and future Seaboard apartments, then this area becomes quite the active residential neighborhood. Near to a light rail station at Peace St too!

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Urban Apartment Boom

Jones133 — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:17:11 +0000

If Cameron Park wasn't there, (and thats totally fine that it is there) it looks like the whole area from Cameron Village to Glenwood South to Hillsborough Street would mushroom into its own totally urban district. I wonder if this will be anywhere close to enough new people in the area to support another grocery store. The Teeter is freaking packed all the time and its pretty well locked into its block (which is an expansion itself from the old Rite Aid building)

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Urban Apartment Boom

orulz — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:22:30 +0000

I was bored and made a map of all the apartment projects that are under construction or proposed.

See the map here.

We already knew this, but there's a pretty heavy concentration in the Glenwood South area.

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