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	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Historic Congaree Vista Developments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So how are the various Vista projects (twelve14 Pulaski, 521 Gervais, SC Bar Conference Center, etc.) coming along? Has the Lofts condo building opened yet, and if so, any retailers on the ground floor?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108970'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>citylife, on 13 March 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Macy's went through a major renovation at Haywood Mall recently and updated their clothing line to include companies such as Lucky, Ed Hardy, Tommy Bahama, Michael Kors, Tommy Hilfiger, BCBGeneration, etc. You can see a video of it here: <a href='http://www.greenvillehd.com/greenville-sc-shopping/macys/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.greenvillehd.com/greenville-sc-shopping/macys/</a>  It's much more nicer and high-end now than it was.</div></div><br />
Yeah, I've seen it.  Gone is the greenish colors (I believe that store had that), art in the escalator wells, and parquet floors that was Rich's from the 80s.  It took a lot of the May/Federated stores (Rich's, Hecht's, Foley's, etc) that transitioned to Macy's a while to get up to traditional Macy's standards.  It's a nice store since the remodel, probably the nicest anchor at Haywood.  Belk's store isn't bad either, they recently remodeled as well.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macy's went through a major renovation at Haywood Mall recently and updated their clothing line to include companies such as Lucky, Ed Hardy, Tommy Bahama, Michael Kors, Tommy Hilfiger, BCBGeneration, etc. You can see a video of it here: <a href='http://www.greenvillehd.com/greenville-sc-shopping/macys/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.greenvillehd.com/greenville-sc-shopping/macys/</a>  It's much more nicer and high-end now than it was.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>citylife</author>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be honest, I never shopped at Rich's much when it was at Haywood, and never shop at Macy's, so I'm not too up on the quality of the merchandise there.  Parisian has been gone so long (was not a huge shopper) I don't remember clearly, but they had some pretty high-end stuff.  I would venture to say Parisian <strong class='bbc'>was</strong> more upscale than Macy's/Rich's at Haywood was around that time, however they have improved with the mall.  Macy's/Rich's dealt in furniture, and as that article says, Parisian did not.  It was more of a 'boutique' type department store (Parisian stores are typically smaller than a Belk, Macy's, etc; could be compared in size to Saks 5th or Neiman Marcus, perhaps, that's just my judgement), while a Macy's type is just a higher-end JCPenney in store type + furniture showroom.<br />
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I think of Parisian as more of a cross between Proffitt's and Saks; Proffitt's was more like a Belk, a significant downgrade from Parisian in the Saks chain.  I never liked Proffitt's.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parisian WAS more upscale than typical mid-market store- see extracts below from Saks Incorporated and Proffitt's securities filings.  Gsupstate, you think that the typical customer was so dumb that while you claim that there was not much difference between a Parisian and an average Macy's, the typical customer was just hypnotized to believe otherwise by Parisian's marketing department?  No wonder the chain didn't last, with that kind of thinking.  I worked for a law firm that handled the company's securities filings, and everything in them was validated to protect the company from liability for fraud- are you saying that the company didn't tell the truth?<br />
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Extracts:<br />
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SDSG [the non-Parisian, non-Saks stores in the family] stores attempt to consistently offer a wide selection of unique and limited distribution merchandise as well as competitively priced national brands. Key brands featured in the Company’s SDSG stores include Liz Claiborne, Susan Bristol, Sigrid Olsen, Polo/Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Nautica, Hart Schaffner & Marx, Estee Lauder, Clinique, Lancome, Chanel, Nine West, Enzo, Waterford, and Bali. <strong class='bbc'>In addition to the these brands, Parisian stores may carry brands such as Karen Kane, BCBG, Garfield & Marks, Tahari, Oakley, Robert Talbott, Tommy Bahama, Joseph Abboud, Hugo Boss, Bobbi Brown, Trish McEvoy, MAC, Donald Pliner, Stuart Weitzman, Kate Spade, Via Spiga, and Brighton, which are typically carried only at specialty stores.</strong> SDSG differentiates its offerings from its competitors through exclusive merchandise from its core vendors, assortments from unique and emerging suppliers, and proprietary brands. <br />
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The Company's primary merchandise focus is on upper-moderate to<br />
better-priced nationally branded merchandise in the more traditional<br />
department stores, <strong class='bbc'>a greater assortment of better-priced nationally<br />
branded merchandise in the Parisian stores</strong>, a greater assortment of<br />
luxury-priced and designer goods at Saks Fifth Avenue, and value-<br />
priced merchandise in the Off 5th stores. <br />
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All of the Company's department stores, excluding the Parisian<br />
stores, are considered traditional department stores, emphasizing<br />
moderate to better prices.  <strong class='bbc'>The Parisian stores are specialty<br />
department stores and carry a more upscale and unique assortment<br />
of merchandise than the traditional department stores, with<br />
higher price points.  </strong>Parisian stores do not carry home<br />
furnishings.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Economic developments in the Charleston metro area</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moulton Logistics Management will locate its new distribution and logistics facility in Berkeley County. The $25 million investment is expected to generate 500 new jobs in the next five years.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Economic Development in South Carolina</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moulton Logistics Management will locate its new distribution and logistics facility in Berkeley County. The $25 million investment is expected to generate 500 new jobs in the next five years.<br />
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MTU Detroit Diesel Inc. will be opening a new manufacturing facility in Aiken County where it will begin building Series 2000 and Series 4000 engines by the end of the year. MTU is a subsidiary of the Germany-based Tognum Group, a global leader in diesel propulsion and power systems. The Tognum Group has committed to a $45 million investment in the new facility that is expected to bring 250 jobs to the Aiken area over the next four years. MTU will take over the former SKF USA plant in the Sage Mill Industrial Park in Graniteville. The 270,000-square-foot facility will allow for future expansion as market demand increases over the coming years.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>South Carolina College Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108908'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>GvilleSC, on 12 March 2010 - 08:14 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Clemson will still be representing the state in the NCAA tourney. An early fall from the ACC tournament means little.</div></div><br />
I thought they had gotten knocked out entirely. Well, hopefully they can make a great showing in the tourney. Needless to say, I wasn't surprised when Tech whooped up on UNC.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Main @ Washington</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108850'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>gsupstate, on 11 March 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>The city did indeed play up both Gateway and the Firestone site with no or failed results.  But you seem to be missing a few.....the city demolished the row of buildings in West End that is now Riverplace.  The city demolished the old apartments that are now McBee Station.  The city demolished the car bridge for what is Liberty Bridge. The city demolished an old warehouse site for what is now Fluor Field and the Fieldhouse.  The city demolished the park and old fire station for what is now the new Main at Broad development.On and on. Seems the numbers speak positive FOR the mayor and the cities history of bringing projects to fruition.  Why would you assume the mayor is bluffing with so many wins on his side?</div></div>I appreciate your optimistic outlook, including the many recent projects that have been successful.  I am no stranger to witnessing these exciting events happen.  My skepticism is intended to provide a balanced perspective with the understanding that there have also been multiple development "losses" in downtown recently.  We have yet to see that major commercial project come to fruition, although the initial phase(s) of RiverPlace do look great.  The proposed scope of Washington Square seems a bit out of touch with reality in this economy until we see persuasive evidence supporting the concept that such a new project will actually be built in our downtown any time soon.<br />
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My comment about Mr. White potentially "bluffing" was based on the fact that it is not uncommon for a mayor (or any politician) to use promising words as an attempt to reassure citizens that everything will be fine.  This does not mean I believe he is lying, but he may not know as much about the future of this project as we are hoping based on an excerpt from his interview with WYFF.  It is a potential reality which we must admit and be prepared to accept or greater disappointment will ensue.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Main @ Washington</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108853'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>gvegascple, on 11 March 2010 - 01:26 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Driving past it a few minutes ago, it appears as though there is grass seed down, but i was trying to peek under the fence from a moving car<br />
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Maybe there is a back-up plan  :-)</div></div>I think that is a method used to control erosion and runoff onto the sidewalks, although a silt fence would probably do the same.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>South Carolina College Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108901'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>krazeeboi, on 12 March 2010 - 03:25 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>So USC falls to Alabama in the SEC tournament, and Clemson falls to NC State in the ACC tournament. Oh well.  Once again, it's up to the schools in lower-profile conferences to represent SC in the NCAA tournament. It would be great to see Winthrop get past the first round this year, but I won't hold my breath.</div></div><br />
Clemson will still be representing the state in the NCAA tourney. An early fall from the ACC tournament means little.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>South Carolina College Sports</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So USC falls to Alabama in the SEC tournament, and Clemson falls to NC State in the ACC tournament. Oh well.  Once again, it's up to the schools in lower-profile conferences to represent SC in the NCAA tournament. It would be great to see Winthrop get past the first round this year, but I won't hold my breath.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>GSP International</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108713'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>gsupstate, on 10 March 2010 - 06:46 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>With three a day to DTW now, makes sense that they would add a fourth.  Most cutbacks in CVG have resulted in more traffic for DTW.  Next on the chopping block (and it has already started with reductions)....Memphis.</div></div><br />
I only flew out of MEM a few times, and it ranks right up there with Philadelphia Intl in my books... I can see MEM being used as a RJ hub, but the thing that screws that up is that the time difference (Central time), which is where CVG was perfect for the most part.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108876'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>gsupstate, on 11 March 2010 - 04:36 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Apple at Haywood is perfect, IMO as it cemments Haywood's position as the best mall in the state, as well as ensures the longevity of Haywood.  Due to the location of Haywood, between downtown and the money of the Eastside/Golden Strip, the area should continue to turn more and more dense, urban, upscale.</div></div><br />
Totally agree.  The other big malls in the larger cities in the state aren't really upscale (Columbiana, Northwoods, Citadel), so Apple wouldn't fit in those.  Columbiana has some upscale stores but not nearly the amount Haywood does.  It fits very well at Haywood and will help attract even more upscale tenants to the mall.<br />
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MPTC: 4 years in to this project, we have dirt, a Costco, Rooms to Go, tacky movie theater, empty Montgomery Ward, and a partially-demolished mall with a dumpy sporting goods store in a horrible location.  Sorry, but I don't have much faith in this project.  I think the stores like Anthropologie, etc. will look at Haywood instead (as has been rumored)....if the D&B's 'knockoff' in an old department store building is the next tenant, I think that tells where the project is going retail-wise.  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' /> <br />
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re: gsupstate and Parisian; perhaps Parisian felt so much more upscale due to the building it was in.  That was a very elegant and beautiful store when compared to the Macy's at Haywood.  IIRC, it had a large, open center with a scenic elevator? and open escalators.  Marketing and image <em class='bbc'>was</em> much better.  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' /><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Greater Greenville Economic Developments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[^ Great news!  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' /><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108872'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>vicupstate, on 11 March 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>BTW, Apple is looking at Five Points in Columbia.  It will totally suck that both Chas. and Cola have Apple stores in an urban setting and ours is in a  enclosed mal</div></div><br />
I heard that the developer of the small strip in Columbia "<strong class='bbc'>got</strong> a person from Apple to come look at the space".  Big difference than "Apple choosing to look at the city".  Apple plans new stores and market entries 3 years out, so if this developer thinks Apple is just going to plop a store in there, he must be smoking something.  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />   Apple at Haywood is perfect, IMO as it cemments Haywood's position as the best mall in the state, as well as ensures the longevity of Haywood.  Due to the location of Haywood, between downtown and the money of the Eastside/Golden Strip, the area should continue to turn more and more dense, urban, upscale.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Downtown Developments (South of Calhoun)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108872'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>vicupstate, on 11 March 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>BTW, Apple is looking at Five Points in Columbia.  It will totally suck that both Chas. and Cola have Apple stores in an urban setting and ours is in a  enclosed mall.</div></div><br />
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Could be wrong, but I highly doubt they sign a lease there. The design of that tenant space is not even close to what Apple wants. They are very strict on design, size, and location of their retail stores. When was the last time you saw Apple locate in a small strip shopping center next to Walgreens? Oh and our Apple Store is going to be much larger than the Charleston one too. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /> <br />
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News article on Magnolia Park: <a href='http://www.journalwatchdog.com/business/576-a-mall-story' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.journalwa...76-a-mall-story</a> <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>“We remain committed to the project. I promise you this, we’re working every possible avenue and approach to getting it done,” he said.<br />
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</strong>Then why approve to put a reject Dave and Busters inside the old Montgomery Ward building instead of demolishing it to make way for your proposed mixed use development? <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>And Jacoby believes once the macro economy starts to turn around, interest from other national retailers will follow.<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108871'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>vicupstate, on 11 March 2010 - 03:49 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>The Journal has an article on Magnolia Park online today.  No real news though.  Offices, retail and a hotel are the current plans. Residential is a POSSIBILITY however.</div></div><br />
BTW, Apple is looking at Five Points in Columbia.  It will totally suck that both Chas. and Cola have Apple stores in an urban setting and ours is in a  enclosed mall.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Journal has an article on Magnolia Park online today.  No real news though.  Offices, retail and a hotel are the current plans. Residential is a POSSIBILITY however.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108862'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>citylife, on 11 March 2010 - 02:30 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Magnolia Park will never be what it could have been in my opinion. Funny how Haywood Mall is able to land these high-end tenants but Menin couldn't for their project. The mall along with Crescent Place will take any of the nice tenants Magnolia Park could of had and for some reason i'm not disappointed at all in that. Woodruff Road already has enough crap and big box stores built along it. There is no question in my mind that Haywood Mall will continue to get more high-end and Crescent Place will get built before Magnolia Park.</div></div><br />
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I totally agree, I think the loss of Ruth Chris and Apple and the inability to land the high end tennants originally planned has led to some anchor tennant choices that will make it even harder to get the Maggiano's, CheeseCake Factory, and Anthropologie's out there to sign a lease.  Woodruff is already stuffed anyway at this spot.  <br />
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Now Crescent place, being so close to Haywood, that could be a win win.  The two being so close to one another could help bring customers since its all in one spot.  I'd be more likely to shop at haywood and grab a meal at Maggiano's, etc and vice versa than have to suffer through Woodruff Road. It seems like a better fit and Haywood Rd could use s little revitalization<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Florida-based company by the name of Astra/CFX that will provide tire and wheel assembly for BMW’s next generation of the X3 sports activity vehicle is investing $9 million to launch its site here and will bring about 50 contract jobs, at first, with an eye to an additional 100 in the future according to this article from the Greenville News: <a href='http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20100311/BUSINESS/303110013/Tire-and-wheel-assembly-company-will-bring-jobs-to-Greer' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20100311/BUSINESS/303110013/Tire-and-wheel-assembly-company-will-bring-jobs-to-Greer</a><br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magnolia Park will never be what it could have been in my opinion. Funny how Haywood Mall is able to land these high-end tenants but Menin couldn't for their project. The mall along with Crescent Place will take any of the nice tenants Magnolia Park could of had and for some reason i'm not disappointed at all in that. Woodruff Road already has enough crap and big box stores built along it. There is no question in my mind that Haywood Mall will continue to get more high-end and Crescent Place will get built before Magnolia Park. <br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108852'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>Greenville, on 11 March 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Back to Magnolia Park Town Center, I tend to be a positive person and am trying to remain hopeful about the development.  But I can't help but wonder if we will ever see anything close to what they originally planned with the town center, 1-2 hotels, condos, and perhaps even office space.  This is supposed to be a nice, higher-end development.  And the location for such a development is perfect.<br />
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So leaving all of the rumor and hearsay behind, what do we currently KNOW about MPTC?  I have:<br />
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-Costco (constructed a few years ago)<br />
-Sports Authority (left over from Greenville Mall)<br />
-Rooms to Go (currently under construction)<br />
-Superplay USA (former Montgomery Ward building)<br />
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Anyone else have anything I am forgetting?<br />
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We are left with the planned/proposed portions of the development, such as the town center, new restaurants for our area (e.g., Maggiano's, Cheesecake Factory, etc.), hotel(s), potential office space, and potential condo space.  I am having trouble seeing how nice condos, nicer retail offerings, and new restaurants for the area will be able to coincide with stuff like Rooms to Go and Superplay USA, but hey, if they can pull it off more power to 'em.  I just have to wonder if the developers are looking at ways to bail on these nicer/more lifestyle-friendly aspects of the development as well.</div></div><br />
Bingo as regards the nicer stores.....what is happening, is that Magnolia is losing any hope of these with each one Haywood gains.  Apple, possible Anthropologie, etc.  In the end, this may be a good thing.  A super solid, upscale Haywood vs.two centers fighting for better stores.<br />
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Side note, seeing all the mention of Parisian. As an ex excutive with Saks Inc. / Parisian in their corporate offices, it is funny now to hear people talk about Parisian as though it was high end.  Parisian was a mid-tier store just like Macy's, only our marketing and PR was far better. Quite the compliment that we did our job well as regards image (at least for a time that is....had we really done our job well, the chain would still be in existence today). <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Driving past it a few minutes ago, it appears as though there is grass seed down, but i was trying to peek under the fence from a moving car<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back to Magnolia Park Town Center, I tend to be a positive person and am trying to remain hopeful about the development.  But I can't help but wonder if we will ever see anything close to what they originally planned with the town center, 1-2 hotels, condos, and perhaps even office space.  This is supposed to be a nice, higher-end development.  And the location for such a development is perfect.<br />
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So leaving all of the rumor and hearsay behind, what do we currently KNOW about MPTC?  I have:<br />
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-Costco (constructed a few years ago)<br />
-Sports Authority (left over from Greenville Mall)<br />
-Rooms to Go (currently under construction)<br />
-Superplay USA (former Montgomery Ward building)<br />
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Anyone else have anything I am forgetting?<br />
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We are left with the planned/proposed portions of the development, such as the town center, new restaurants for our area (e.g., Maggiano's, Cheesecake Factory, etc.), hotel(s), potential office space, and potential condo space.  I am having trouble seeing how nice condos, nicer retail offerings, and new restaurants for the area will be able to coincide with stuff like Rooms to Go and Superplay USA, but hey, if they can pull it off more power to 'em.  I just have to wonder if the developers are looking at ways to bail on these nicer/more lifestyle-friendly aspects of the development as well.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1108818'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>Skyliner, on 10 March 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>While this sounds exciting on the surface, let's not forget that the City was touting the most recent development proposal for the Gateway site with equal vigor, expressing much greater confidence in the potential success and impact of the project than any of the preceding proposals.  Let's also remember the excitement and anticipation following the demolition of the old Kress building, followed by the Firestone service station on McBee Avenue.  One development never materialized after several years of marketing.  The other became an urban memorial to the financial collapse of the decade and will undoubtedly be almost impossible to redevelop in the near future.<br />
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Let's hope the Mayor isn't bluffing this time around.  Promising/teasing words are a cheap way to reassure doubters that everything is alright, even if it isn't.  Development announcements are better, especially if they include detailed renderings and financial plans, however as we have seen numerous times recently, even the most promising plans have the potential to be completely changed or scrapped for various reasons.<br />
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Hope is our friend yet again.</div></div><br />
The city did indeed play up both Gateway and the Firestone site with no or failed results.  But you seem to be missing a few.....the city demolished the row of buildings in West End that is now Riverplace.  The city demolished the old apartments that are now McBee Station.  The city demolished the car bridge for what is Liberty Bridge. The city demolished an old warehouse site for what is now Fluor Field and the Fieldhouse.  The city demolished the park and old fire station for what is now the new Main at Broad development.On and on. Seems the numbers speak positive FOR the mayor and the cities history of bringing projects to fruition.  Why would you assume the mayor is bluffing with so many wins on his side?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=906498'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>krazeeboi, on 17 December 2007 - 03:10 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>It appears as though the Charleston skyline is getting an addition, the only kind it could really get. The Cathedral of St. John the Baptist on Broad Street is getting a new steeple. Of course, the plans for the addition breezed through the Board of Architectural Review pretty easily. While construction could begin in the middle of next year, the price tag for the project isn't known yet. <br />
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The <a href='http://www.charleston.net/news/2007/dec/17/holy_city_gain_new_steeple25195/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>article</a> has a rendering of how the church would look with the new steeple.</div></div><br />
The new steeple has finally been erected, and the Holy City gets a new addition to the skyline. Check out the <a href='http://www.postandcourier.com/photos/galleries/2010/mar/09/new-church-spire/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>gallery</a> from the P&C website here.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The IMO Group, a German company that makes rings used in wind turbines, construction machinery, and ship building, will be opening its first American plant at an industrial park in Dorchester County. The plant will eventually employ 190 workers and represents a $47 million investment. IMO is the first business whose arrival can be credited at least in part to the recent announcement that Clemson University Restoration Institute will build a $98 million state-of-the-art wind turbine drivetrain testing facility on the former Navy base in North Charleston.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TIC Properties doesn't need bank financing/investor help to build a development on site unlike the developers of the Peacock and Gateway projects. They are a fairly large company with plenty of capital backing to build what they please there. The only thing TIC Properties needs to build something there is tenants. They don't want to build a spec building at this time due to the economy and class A office vacancy rate in downtown Greenville.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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